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Old 02-20-2003, 05:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
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YEAH, ENGLAND " ASKED" CANADA FOR HELP IN THE WARS...SURE THEY DID ( SAID VERY SARCASTICLY). Just like when your mom " asked" you to do stuff as a kid...no, SHE TOLD YOU ! The Canadians were not a government fully by themselves, they were still under heavy Brtish influence,and alot of actual British governmental rule. This is in no way to disrespect Canada or their people, it's just the way it was. Hey, same scenario happened alot to future Americans in the 1750s when the colonists were " asked" to help fight off French and Indian foes of the British. No, it was clear that if the colonists ( future Americans) didn't help, they would suffer consequences from the government ( British) that was controlling them at the time.

Hell, I'm not questioning the bravery and morally correct fact that Canada helped in the war, all I'm saying is that it is unclear what Canada's role in the wars would have been if they were their own soverign nation at the time, thats all.Based on what I know of Canadian government and people, I believe they would have fought anyway, cause they are people of respect and morals ! (even more then America alot of times !!!!!)

The United States government were following a policy of neutralization declared on Sept 5, 1939, a few days after the Germans marched through Poland.

At the time, as in the first World War, American sentiment was this. Europe is Europe. Let them do what they want, it has no bearing on us. Remember, at the time of both World Wars, esp. WWI, America was not the super power they became. What reason SC-Lee, would America have for entering either war before attacked? American interests were not threatened and neither were it's borders. I actually thought it was a good policy due to America's limited military and resources compared to the super powers of the time ( England, France, Germany, Japan, and Russia). One theory, not often heard in America, is that Roosevelt was looking to get into the war to ease the Great Depression and ignored the warning signs of Pearl Harbor. True or not, WWII ended the GD for America.

The circumstances SC_Lee are totally different from WWII and now. Why does the U.S. want war so bad and is pushing everyone along you ask? America wants support for this war for several reasons. First, if other nations cooperate, American cost and casuality is held down. Second, the unified response is harder on Iraq, who will try to play political games to get America's non-supporters to put pressure on the U.S. The unified response will also be helpful in " showing" America's other main enemy , N. Korea, that the U.S. is not to be played with.

The biggest reason why though is this SC_Lee. If the U.S. attacks Iraq without clearance from the UN, this will be an ILLEGAL war based on international law, in which rogue nations will rejoice at and stir up trouble elsewhere ( N. Korea with S. Korea and China with Taiwan). America would not be able to use the line " we attacked because Iraq hasn't followed through on the UN Resolutions", if France and Germany collaborate to veto the UN's official line on the matter. Basiclly, the U.S. would be acting as one nation attacking another without being provoked, purely ILLEGAL. ( America will get away with it though, cause hell, their America)

At this point, I don't understand why, ( although it may be going on behind closed doors) aren't the Americans telling the French and Germans to give acceptance to the attack and we'll make sure you guys don't have to do much and there will be something in it down the road for you. This would put more burden on America in the fight, but if Bush is so hell bent on war, he's going to have to do something like this at this point, cause no one likes America's positon right now. This is how America has worked since the beginning of time, a nation of used car salesmen. It would have been nice for everyone to approve, but they aren't, so America is going to have to sacrifice a little to get that approval, but if that's what it takes, appearantly the U.S. is willing to do it.
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