Go Colts!!

[BrAvEsChIcK16]

I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS.. AND TENNESSE TITANS ARE AWESOME!!! I LOVE PAYTON MANNING HE IS ONE OF THE BEST QB'S THAT HAS EVER BEEN THROUGH UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE... T. MARTIN WAS PRETTY AWESOME TOO!!!

[MountaineerDave]

Is BravesChick16 Travis13's girlfriend?

Dave

[Anthony]

Is there something wrong with BravesChick 16's CAPS lock? (And Dave, if she was Travis13's girlfriend, wouldn't she have ended the message with "BravesChick 16 is out?").

[MountaineerDave]

Actually, I think she would have closed this way:

BC16 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dave

[HibachiDG]

T > Peyton

[da12ken]

Originally posted by Doug Graham
T > Peyton

In terms of national championships, yes.

Thoughts of the just-finished game?

The defending champs didn't impress me that much: that run defense did lose something from last year. If anything, it was the Colts' inability to execute that cost them the game. Dillon looked good for the Pats though.

[Nate]

If Edgerrin James hadn't been Mr. Butter Fingers, there would have been a different outcome to that game. And I freakin' HATE Tom Brady! Sorry to vent, but the Colts do this to me all the time! They lose the close games and get me all excited. I'm going to have a heart attack by the age of 22, and it will be all the Colts fault, I swear. If the Colts lose next week at the Titans, I will officially give up on this season. When does the NBA start??

[MountaineerDave]

So... my question is this? When do we start mentioning Tom Brady in the same breath as Peyton Manning.
Brady was on fire tonight. What a great game he had. His one pick looked like a misread on either his or Graham's fault: Graham was expected to go up the seam, instead he crossed in... Nice play by Harper though. (Or whoever it was that made that pick.)

The Pats' run defense seemed to tighten in the second half. Struggled in the first, no doubt, but really got stingier in the second half.

Difference of the game: Peyton takes the sack with the game on the line. Brady slides out of the hands of Dwight Freeney and completes a pass for first down.

Dave

[Anthony]

If nothing else, tonight's game proves just how important "value" can be.

No way should New England have been favored by only 3 - they finished two games ahead of the Colts last year (plus beat them twice head-to-head, once in the regular season and again in the AFC title game) and not only that, but the Colts really did nothing over the spring - either through free agency or the draft - that was going to help them improve immediately, while the Patriots went out and got Corey Dillon.

The line should have been at least 5 if not 5 1/2 or even 6 - and those who bet on New England should have lost instead of pushing.

[HibachiDG]

Originally posted by MountaineerDave
So... my question is this? When do we start mentioning Tom Brady in the same breath as Peyton Manning.
Brady was on fire tonight. What a great game he had. His one pick looked like a misread on either his or Graham's fault: Graham was expected to go up the seam, instead he crossed in... Nice play by Harper though. (Or whoever it was that made that pick.)

The Pats' run defense seemed to tighten in the second half. Struggled in the first, no doubt, but really got stingier in the second half.

Difference of the game: Peyton takes the sack with the game on the line. Brady slides out of the hands of Dwight Freeney and completes a pass for first down.

Dave

Dave, Brady is the one drawing comparisons to Joe Montana while Peyton is the guy with AMAZING weapons that should be winning like Brady yet isn't and has people asking why. Brady has been mentioned in the same breath as Manning. The question should be, when will Manning live up to the hype and be mentioned in the same breath as Brady. Sure, Manning is glitz and glamor and the common viewer will pick up on Manning moreson than Brady, but it doesn't make the guy the better quarterback.

Manning will surely blame the drunk kicker for the loss, if not in the press, I'm sure he's thinking it, while it was Manning taking the sack.

[Anthony]

Before you blame Peyton Manning, what about the Colts' defense? As Sean Salisbury likes to say, Mr. Whipple would have had a field day squeezing them - that's how soft they are! And not doing anything about it during the off-season is totally unforgivable.

Then again, it was the same way with Tony Dungy when he was at Tampa Bay; he just has that same "bend-but-don't-break" philosophy as Jim Johnson has - or had until about a month and a half ago.

[HibachiDG]

I didn't exactly blame Manning in this performance though. Just said that he's likely kicking Vandy in his head.

I'm in complete agreement on the Colts D.

[da12ken]

...but Peyton was the one who took the sack on the crucial 3rd down. And perhaps Belichick did ice Vandejagt.

[doublee]

Yeah, but Peyton is not the one who put the ball on the ground at the goal line either. That play was just as crucial as the sack at the end of the game. If not moreso since it the Colts would have taken the lead if they had scored a TD. The three turnovers in the red zone is what cost the Colts thtat game. They easily win that game if they hold on to the ball.

[Dublin Mike]

The kick at the end of the game really looked like it was heading through the uprights, but caught a windgust and did an "exit: stage left" turn.

The Colt defense looked horrible tonight. Brady performed well, but the colts DBs didn't even look like they were trying for the ball.

The New England run D could be in serious trouble. They were killed up the middle last night. James gave that game away w/his fumbles, especially the one on the goal line. And lest we forget Peyton "I can't throw a decent pass on the redzone" Manning's pick to Bruschi.

[MountaineerDave]

While I've often supported Vanderjerk in the past for opening his mouth, I have to remind those who know him as a WVU alum that he is Canadian, not a native West Virginian...

I heard the drunk idiot kicker suggest that the Colts were "clearly the better team, we just ran out of time." That's the dumbest claim a sports guy can make, especially in football. If you don't win in the allotted 60 minutes, aren't tied in the allotted 60 minutes, haven't beaten this team in the last five years... well, someone should find him on kick coverage and destroy him. Level him. Ruin his career. He's just a complete idiot.

The NE Run D was weak, especially early, and the current discussion up here is: James was running in midseason form. The Indy O line run blocking was awesome. The D line appears to need some work.

I won't be at all surprised to see a reversion, especially over the short term, or against big-time running backs, to the 4-3. No one has said it up here, but I figure until Wilfork understands the 2-gap more completely, we'll be seeing him and Traylor on the D line together with Seymour and Warren on ends against Arizona, just to try it out.

The Colts D looked as bad as expected. I don't understand what Indy and KC were doing settling for the crappy Ds they had last year. Do they not understand they were eliminated when their Ds couldn't stop people?

Dave

[jonnyboone71923]

whoever said that the Colts defense was awful is right. Brady had time to knit a sweater in the time that the rush reached him. He did take some hard shots, but he never looked afraid against the horseshoes

[Anthony]

Originally posted by jonnyboone71923
whoever said that the Colts defense was awful is right. Brady had time to knit a sweater in the time that the rush reached him. He did take some hard shots, but he never looked afraid against the horseshoes

Knit a sweater? Like that; but in my household we've always used the metaphor "had enough time to make himself a sandwich back there" - leading to my personal use of the phrase "sandwich time" whenever a quarterback has an inordinate amount of time to throw.