Daunte Culpepper crashing into the NFL record books..

[FSUViking]

With one game left, Culpepper has passed for 4,418 yards, which is already 12TH BEST IN NFL HISTORY and puts him on pace for 4,712 yards. That would be
the SEVENTH BEST TOTAL IN NFL HISTORY.

Culpepper has 37 TD passes, which is THE SEVENTH BEST IN NFL HISTORY, behind only Manning this year, Kurt Warner in 1999 and Brett Favre twice in the mid-1990s.

And Culpepper has completed 69.8 percent of his passes, which if he maintains it would be FIFTH BEST IN NFL HISTORY, behind only Kenny Anderson in 1982, Sammy Baugh in 1945 and Steve Young and Joe Montana once each.

NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has ever thrown for as many yards with as many touchdowns in the same season as Culpepper.
Including Manning.

NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has thrown for as many yards with such a high completion percentage.
Including Manning.

If Culpepper continues at his current pace in the Vikings' final game, at Washington -- and throws fewer than five interceptions -- he will finish the season with the fewest interceptions among any quarterback in history to
throw for more than 4,700 yards.

Right now, the fewest INTs by a quarterback with 4,700 yards is 17, shared by Dan Fouts in 1981 and Marino in 1984. Culpepper has only 11, so he should
annihilate that record.

Culpepper takes a passer rating of 110.1 into the Redskins game. Only three quarterbacks in NFL history have finished a season with a higher rating -- Milt Plum of the Browns (110.4 in 1960), Montana (112.4 in 1989) and Young
(112.8 in 1991). Manning is currently at 123.9 and Baugh compiled a 109.9 mark in 1945, so at worst Culpepper will finish with the sixth-best passer
rating in NFL history.

[FSUViking]

And yet, here we are....8-7....underachieving again. It's time for somebody other than #11 to step up and earn a paycheck this season. :rolleyes:

[Tarkus]

I've felt bad for Culpepper for awhile seein' that if it wasn't for him (for the most part), the Vikings would be battlin' it out with Chicago & Detroit.

It's a shame to see an athlete spending his prime years on a merry-go-round team like the Vikes.

[FSUViking]

Yeah.....Pepp and Moss won't be around forever. :( :mad:

[MaddEnemy]

http://www.sports-central.org/community/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11375

[dirtywhiteboy]

Originally posted by FSUViking


NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has ever thrown for as many yards with as many touchdowns in the same season as Culpepper.
Including Manning.


I can only assume that what you mean is with Dante's 37 TDs or whatever it is, he's got the most yards when throwing that total of TDs. And yes, they are nice numbers.
But as long as you want to compare him to Manning....Manning has more TDs, more passing yards, fewer interceptions, and a much higher passer rating.
Dante is having a nice little year though...

[MaddEnemy]

Brady vs Manning

Vick vs Manning

Now

Pepper Vs. Manning

:rolleyes:

Manning must be something special.

[FSUViking]

Nice how you take two small blurps about Manning to make this into a "vs" thread. :rolleyes:

[MaddEnemy]

Originally posted by FSUViking
Nice how you take two small blurps about Manning to make this into a "vs" thread. :rolleyes:

It seems to be a pattern; this is how it gets started


You said

"Including Manning"

Why not say including Dan Fouts?

You just had to bring Manning into it so just like many posts before this one..... Manning Vs. who is next? Brees?

[dirtywhiteboy]

YOU'RE the one that originally compared him to Manning. You threw in "including Manning" following 2 on your main points. You were obviously comparing him to the best QB this year for a reason?

[dirtywhiteboy]

They were up like 24-8 or 27-9 at one point.

Congrats to Peyton. How anybody can not like this guy is beyond me. Class personafied and the best QB of our generation right now.

And those are your own words, FSUViking. I think you're obviously the one that's comparing the two QBs when you post that, and then use "including Manning" to emphasize your Culpepper points.

[FSUViking]

Originally posted by MaddEnemy
It seems to be a pattern; this is how it gets started


You said

"Including Manning"

Why not say including Dan Fouts?

You just had to bring Manning into it so just like many posts before this one..... Manning Vs. who is next? Brees?

Well, you'll notice the names of Joe Montana...Sammy Baugh...and several others mentioned throughout the post.

OK...so before you **** yourself with rage, realize that Manning's name was far from the only one brought up, OK? :rolleyes:

And your really talking out of your ass too. Exactly how many Manning posts have I started?

Your getting awfully defensive and wound up over nothing.

[FSUViking]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
YOU'RE the one that originally compared him to Manning. You threw in "including Manning" following 2 on your main points. You were obviously comparing him to the best QB this year for a reason?

Let me clue you into something. It's called putting his accomplishments into perspective. Manning is the measuring stick for QB's today. Kinda makes a shred of sense that you'd compare the numbers of the two best statistical QB's in football in 2004, right?

Wouldn't make much sense to throw some Joey Harrington figures or AJ Feely stats in this conversation, would it?

[FSUViking]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
They were up like 24-8 or 27-9 at one point.

Congrats to Peyton. How anybody can not like this guy is beyond me. Class personafied and the best QB of our generation right now.

And those are your own words, FSUViking. I think you're obviously the one that's comparing the two QBs when you post that, and then use "including Manning" to emphasize your Culpepper points.

What in the hell are you even talking about? Seriously...you are confusing the hell out of me. Your making nO sense at all.

I complement Manning, and it's turned around AGAINST me in another thread? You two need to seriously get a grip. You starting World War III over what?

Because somebody had the nerve to compare another quarterback to Peyton Manning? Because somebody actually may BEAT Peyton in some category?

Good lord..... :rolleyes:

[dirtywhiteboy]

I realize that it's only rational to compare Dante to the highest measuring stick...if the statistics were evern RELATIVELY close. The only stat that meets that criteria is passing yards. That, I can agree apon. Am I defensive? Hardly. I'm not the one using "****" language in my posts. My only point is that Manning's numbers are so WAY ove Dante's, that such a comparison is completely without merit. Why not throw in Harringotn, as well? That's about as ridiculous as comparing ANY QB to Manning this year.
And as far as the WWIII comment is concerned...perhaps this thread (or at least our replies to one another) is getting a little heated. Consider this my last post on the topic.

[FSUViking]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
My only point is that Manning's numbers are so WAY ove Dante's, that such a comparison is completely without merit. Why not throw in Harringotn, as well? That's about as ridiculous as comparing ANY QB to Manning this year.

Really?

PASSING YARDS
Manning 4,551 yards
Daunte 4,418 yards

TOUCHDOWNS
Manning 49
Daunte 37

INT'S
Manning 10
Daunte 11

RATING
Manning 124.4
Daunte 112.2

Yeah...that is rediculous. Peyton is clearly WAY better than Daunte.

[dirtywhiteboy]

12 more TDs. For an pretty good QB, 12 TDs is perhaps 1/2 a season's worth. 12 pts higher in the passer rating. Yeah, that IS rediculous. One more question: what's the Vikes record?

[FSUViking]

We are 8-7. Indy is 12-3. Good for you. Now you wanna take this from Peyton vs Daunte, to Colts vs Vikings?

Jesus...give it a frickin rest already.

This isn't a Colts only forum, you know. Not every post needs to be hailing Manning as the second coming of Christ.

Believe it or not, there ARE other good players, AND quarterbacks in the the NFL.

As obviously difficult as it is for you to stomach that thought.

[dirtywhiteboy]

Have I ever failed to recognize the fact that Daunte is a good player? No. In fact, I seem to recall saying that he's having a good season.
The "Colts vs. Vikings" comparison is merely to point out that Manning has gotten his team further. The Vikes have some very good players, yet fail to achieve much success...i.e. their usual meltdowns after hot starts. If Daunte is as good as you say, then why doesn't he use the talent around him to prevent this from happening EVERY SEASON??? My point is that Manning makes the players around him better.
This isn't a Colts forum? I had no idea.

[doublee]

FSUViking the problem people are having here is you go out of your way to point out Manning has never accomplished some of these things when he indeed has this season. If you want to point out what Culpepper has done this year then you also need to consider what Manning has accomplished this year as well.

Nobody is going to argue that Culpepper is not having an outstanding season, but it seems asinine to make the statement that no other QB has thrown for as many yards and TDs in the same season as Daunte when Manning has both more TDs and yards than Culpepper this season.

[Kornbix]

If Moss plays all next year, I hink Culpepper *might* have a chance at The od of the universe (in ME's eyes) Peyton Manning.

[dirtywhiteboy]

Hey doublee, I think what FSUViking's point is that nobody has had the number of passing yards that Culpepper has w/ the TD total. Yes, Manning has more TDs....but nobody has had that many yards with the 37 TDs that Daunte has. A nice tidbit, but it seems rather trivial.

[MaddEnemy]

Originally posted by FSUViking
Well, you'll notice the names of Joe Montana...Sammy Baugh...and several others mentioned throughout the post.

OK...so before you **** yourself with rage, realize that Manning's name was far from the only one brought up, OK? :rolleyes:

And your really talking out of your ass too. Exactly how many Manning posts have I started?

Your getting awfully defensive and wound up over nothing.

You said,

"Nice how you take two small blurps about Manning to make this into a "vs" thread" I answered you, so what if Montana was mentioned the point was you were also comparing him to Manning like so many before you have done.

I have no rage, I thought I was being sarcastic.

You said,
”How many Manning POSTS have I made”? Do you mean Threads?

I have made 1 about Manning, you have made none about Manning but Pepper....

1 THREAD! "Manning sets new single-season TD record" and that was also linked with a story. Sure I post "reply" to other posts or threads about Manning but unlike you I only have 1 Thread about Manning where you have a few about Pepper

You in the past few days:

Daunte Culpepper crashing into the NFL record books

Culpepper to topple another Marino record?

Mike Tice back in 2005

Don't let me forget this "This is just a BIT overboard, don't ya think"? could have gone in "Reggie White dies of heart attack at 43"

Why not create a Minnesota Vikings Post, that way anything to do with the Vikings you can post there since you want to bring up how many times I post. The “Marino record” and “NFL record books” posts could of been posted together! I have made an effort not to start new threads when I can post something similar in another thread that is close to what I am talking about. I am not monitoring you but replying to your comment, do what you want.

I admit I Posted a few things about the Colts:

Manning sets new single-season TD record "with link to article"

Colts VS Ravens

$687.5 million for new Colts Stadium "news worthy with link to article

[doublee]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
Hey doublee, I think what FSUViking's point is that nobody has had the number of passing yards that Culpepper has w/ the TD total. Yes, Manning has more TDs....but nobody has had that many yards with the 37 TDs that Daunte has. A nice tidbit, but it seems rather trivial.

Yeah, but see that is simply not true and if that is the case then he needs to check his numbers. According to FSU's previous post Manning has 4551 yards with 49 TDs while Culpepper has 4418 yards with 37 TDs. Manning has more passing yards, TDs, and fewer INTs than Culpepper does this year. If one wants to point out that Manning has never done something in comparison to Culpepper's numbers this season than one needs to take into account Manning's accomplishments this season as well.

[MaddEnemy]

Originally posted by FSUViking
Really?

PASSING YARDS
Manning 4,551 yards
Daunte 4,418 yards

TOUCHDOWNS
Manning 49
Daunte 37

INT'S
Manning 10
Daunte 11

RATING
Manning 124.4
Daunte 112.2

Yeah...that is rediculous. Peyton is clearly WAY better than Daunte.

So Manning has just over 100 more yards, 12 more TD's, 1 less INT and a better passer rating.

So IMO Manning has done more with the same amount of yards as Pepper and you say Pepper is better? :rolleyes: Come on man that is just WACKED!


Let me go re-read your Post again, maybe I didn't understand what was being said.


"NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has ever thrown for as many yards with as many touchdowns in the same season as Culpepper.
Including Manning."

So Manning with just over 100 more yards misses out on that record even with the 49TD's and higher passing rating?

It just doesn't add up in fact you say

Culpepper has 37 TD passes, which is THE SEVENTH BEST IN NFL HISTORY, behind only Manning this year,

He is behind Manning now this year but again you say

NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has ever thrown for as many yards with as many touchdowns in the same season as Culpepper.
Including Manning."

:wtf:

:goof:

I guess I do not get the topic of this thread. How can Pepper crash NFL record books if Manning has him beat this year? Well maybe with Manning sitting out some this week Pepper will get more yards but still....... You can't crash arecord book if someone has better stats, can you?

[MountaineerDave]

Purple, you did leave yourself open to some pretty ummm... valid criticism when you stated overtly and, ummm.... falsely, that NO QB IN NFL HISTORY has ever thrown for as many yards with as many touchdowns in the same season as Culpepper.
Including Manning

That seems to be the biggest bone of contention. I think if you re-read yourself and understand that this quote is just a mistake, admit the mistake and stop using asterisk words when folks want to quibble with you, the world will be a better place.

Dave

[Kornbix]

Kinda off-topic, but Iv'e seen everone using the phrase IMO just wandering what it meant. Thanks.

Oh yeah wouldn't that be funny if the Vikes choked again? That'd be funny

[MaddEnemy]

Originally posted by Kornbix
Kinda off-topic, but Iv'e seen everone using the phrase IMO just wandering what it meant. Thanks.


In my Opinion

[Kornbix]

Originally posted by MaddEnemy
In my Opinion

Sweeeeet. Thanks

[dirtywhiteboy]

Orignally misunderstood, I can recognize the point that FSUViking was trying to make. He's saying that, although other QBs have thrown 37 TD passes, nobody has had as many yards -- at the point of the 37th TD -- as Culpepper. If that's the case, then fine. But, it's hardly a tidbit worth mentioning when Manning has the stats (which are far superior) that he's put up.
FSUViking, nobody is getting defensive. People are just pointing out the fact that, while Culpepper has done what he's done, unfortunately for him it's been done during a year that someone else has done much better. Kinda along the lines of Sammy Sosa's 67 HR season. He had 67, but McGuire had 70. Both great numbers, but if you asked the common guy on the street how many HRs Sosa had, he couldn't tell you. McGuire's 70 HR mark will be always be remembered.
And to agree w/ MaddEnemy, exactly HOW MANY Vikings related posts have you started? You say that this isn't a Colt's message board, yet you have started quite a few Vikings related threads???
I'm just gonna come out and say it: You seem awefully annoyed with the attention to Manning, and the lack of recognition for Culpepper. To ease your frustrations, I can only speak for myself when I say that, yes, Culpepper has had a fine year. Satisfied???

[Kornbix]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
Orignally misunderstood, I can recognize the point that FSUViking was trying to make. He's saying that, although other QBs have thrown 37 TD passes, nobody has had as many yards -- at the point of the 37th TD -- as Culpepper. If that's the case, then fine. But, it's hardly a tidbit worth mentioning when Manning has the stats (which are far superior) that he's put up.
FSUViking, nobody is getting defensive. People are just pointing out the fact that, while Culpepper has done what he's done, unfortunately for him it's been done during a year that someone else has done much better. Kinda along the lines of Sammy Sosa's 67 HR season. He had 67, but McGuire had 70. Both great numbers, but if you asked the common guy on the street how many HRs Sosa had, he couldn't tell you. McGuire's 70 HR mark will be always be remembered.
And to agree w/ MaddEnemy, exactly HOW MANY Vikings related posts have you started? You say that this isn't a Colt's message board, yet you have started quite a few Vikings related threads???
I'm just gonna come out and say it: You seem awefully annoyed with the attention to Manning, and the lack of recognition for Culpepper. To ease your frustrations, I can only speak for myself when I say that, yes, Culpepper has had a fine year. Satisfied???

Just a little side note, Sammy had 66. Yeah I remembered.

And off the topic, my boy Doug Johnson got some snaps in versus the Broncos the other night with the Titans. Boy isn't he a season saver? Vick ges down, and Johnson steps up and leads us to a 1-7 record. DG, you da man.

Had to mention him got tired of talking about Culppeper and Manning

[FSUViking]

Alright, this is overdue:

I personally did not compile this list. I borrowed it from a friend over at NFL-Fans.com

She compiled it or put it together. I admit, I didn't fully understand Manning being in there either, but I just went with it anyways.

I asked her about it, and she says it was made up BEFORE last weeks games, for what that's worth. Regardless, I made my bed and I have to sleep in it now.

For the record, I may be a Vikings fan to my very core, but Peyton Manning is my favorite player. Has been for about 4 years now. Just the way he carries himself and plays the game.

So, I am in no way trying to slight Peyton or anything he has accomplished. I can't speak for the person who compiled these stats that I posted here from another site.

Go Peyton....Skol Vikings...and Happy New Year.

[MaddEnemy]

Originally posted by FSUViking
Alright, this is overdue:

I personally did not compile this list. I borrowed it from a friend over at NFL-Fans.com

She compiled it or put it together. I admit, I didn't fully understand Manning being in there either, but I just went with it anyways.
.

As a wise man once told me,

"you need to post a link or credit the source when you paste text like that. We aren't too small to sue".

I'm being asmart ass, I know! J/K laugh, it's suppose to be funny

Pepper is a good QB and if Moss could have played every game this year, who know where Pepper would be

[FSUViking]

Ya know, prior to Moss's injury it was Daunte who was on pace to beat Marino's record.

I would have liked to see Daunte and Peyton going at it, like Sosa and McGuire did in 98 for the home run record.

That would have been cool.

[Kornbix]

Yeah it would have. Like I said if Moss stays healthy, I think Daunte can break Mannings record net year in the sorry NFC.(besides the Falcons)

[dirtywhiteboy]

Well damn...it just got all Tony Robins in here, didn't it? Why do I feel like Fred and Wilma just pulled off the monster's mask, and it's me! Listen FSUVikings....we all disagree on topics in here, but that's no big deal. You made some good points, and also some points I didn't agree with. By the way, where's that stat list from your friend? I didn't see it, or a link...unless I'm blind.
Culpepper is a good player. To agree with Kornbix (and I really hate to do so), there's a very good chance that Culpepper has a shot at Dan's record, too, if Moss is healthy. Not to fear: Pepper had a fine year, and I doubt that it will be his best.
I don't feel that you slighted Manning. You are just passionate about Culpepper, and that's not a crime. No hard feelings, and you have a Happy New Year, as well. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Noon]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
Kinda along the lines of Sammy Sosa's 67 HR season. He had 67, but McGuire had 70. Both great numbers, but if you asked the common guy on the street how many HRs Sosa had, he couldn't tell you. McGuire's 70 HR mark will be always be remembered.

Man, I feel like a ******* doing this, but as long as we're analyzing numbers, Sosa didn't hit 67 home runs. He hit 66.

Don't feel bad though, I don't think of myself as a common guy on the street.

[dirtywhiteboy]

:stupid:

Yes, Sosa hit 66....the entire point of my post. It was sarcasm....irony, and it made my point. And yes, go with that feeling...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Noon]

I'll apologize to K-Bix, I saw that he corrected you first, but I'm gonna go ahead an call bs on your post. Sure didn't look like sarcasm to me, but more like unintentional irony.

[dirtywhiteboy]

:wtf:

[dirtywhiteboy]

:banghead:

You just don't get it, do you? TWO people picked up on the use of "67". TWO. My INTENTIONAL use of "67" was to MAKE MY POINT. People will remember McGuire, but few will remember Sosa's numbers. THAT'S IT. I can't explain it any more clearly to you. If you don't get it, then just get yourself fixed. The world doesn't need anymore idiots in it. :finger:

[Noon]

Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
You were the 2nd person to pick up on the INTENTIONAL error in my post....THE SECOND. My point is mad by the fact that only 2 people picked up on it. THAT'S IT. The "67", and not "66" was used to make a point. Obviously, one that was lost on you.

You're right, it was lost on me and apparently still is because I still think you f-ed up the number and won't admit it. But I'm stupid, I'll move on. You did prove your point.

[Noon]

Oops, the tricky accidental-double post.

For anyone wondering, I did this on purpose to prove my ironic point.

(countdown to thread lockdown...3....2....1....)

[Marc]

Zero.