View Full Version : Vikings want Buck gone?
G-MenNMetsfan
01-12-2005, 09:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs04/news/story?id=1965529
Fox said no. All because he said that what Randy Moss did was a "disgusting act."
I've had commentator say far worse things that this. McCombs gives me another reason for not liking him.
HibachiDG
01-12-2005, 09:22 PM
I don't mind the Vikings doing this. His commentary after the Moss celebration was more offensive to me than the action by Moss. At some point, Buck has to have some measure of professionalism in the booth. My initial reaction is that Buck just wanted to get his soundbyte along with the Moss celebration footage.
doublee
01-12-2005, 09:26 PM
This is just dumb. Don't the Vikings have better things to worry about than what Joe Buck did or did not say or what he might say on a broadcast? Who cares what he said? I suppose next he is going to say that James Brown should not cover the game either. He was just as critical, if not moreso, of what happened. As a matter of fact let's request that ESPN not cover the game either. As memory serves they refused to air the clip that night as a matter of good taste.
To even suggest that race played an issue in this is just ludicrous. It has more to do with Moss' history of immaturity and being a bonehead than anything else. Next thing he will be calling James Brown an Uncle Tom as well.
MaddEnemy
01-12-2005, 09:45 PM
We hope Mr. McCombs enjoys Joe's play-by-play call Sunday, because he'll be in the booth," Bell said.
Clap Clap Clap
:tup:
MountaineerDave
01-12-2005, 09:53 PM
1. I thought the Vikings were completely founded in their request. In fact, I'm glad they did this.
2. Joe Buck is quickly becoming one of the guys on TV that I hate most. He seems to think himself the moral barometer through which we should watch sports. His antithesis toward Manny Ramirez (urged on by McCarver, who acts as if Ramirez is his mortal nemesis or something) and then his anti-Moss remarks this past Sunday, to go along with the occasional TO sniping all make Buck maybe the most overrated pile of crap doing play by play on TV. His daddy he is not.
3. Hmmm... ESPN doesn't show the replay, at least for a while. FOX refuses to replay it. But, up at NFL Network, where you'd think they would have no desire to show the league's "ass," as it were, viewable in entirety when I wandered up there the other day. Just who do Fox and ESPN think they're fooling, anyway?
4. If Tony Dungy thought the celebration was amusing, I'm down with it. Dungy is one the league's biggest wet blankets. If he found it amusing, more power to Moss. Next time, let the entire receiving corps do a mass "mooning."
5. Damn Janet Jackson and that pipsqueak Timberlake!!! Damn them straight to hell!!!!
Dave
MaddEnemy
01-12-2005, 09:57 PM
Joe Buck, is that the <<ADMIN EDIT for abbreviation of profane word>> who shares his opinions about the rules, I think it was this guy who went on about how the replay should be taken out of the NFL.?
Is this that guy?
I love Joe Buck, I've often found him to be the best play-by-play man in the business, but if he could quit it with the constant editoralizing, I'd be all for it.
It seems bigger he gets, the more he lets his opinions be known. Just call the game.
FSUViking
01-12-2005, 11:33 PM
I too like Joe Buck, but...
Joe Buck...the same guy who does Leon commercials and works for a network that airs "Who's Your Daddy?" (mocking adopton) calls out Moss on National TV and says it's the most disgusting thing he has ever seen?
Well, as long as Budweiser keeps paying him, and he doesn't have to watch any FOX programming...I suppose we can't call him a hypocrite, right? :rolleyes:
Anthony
01-13-2005, 02:30 AM
If you don't want to hear Buck, just turn down the TV and get the audio from the radio. Didn't millions of people do this every Monday night back in the '70s because they couldn't stand Howard Cosell?
dirtywhiteboy
01-13-2005, 06:52 AM
The only people mad at Joe Buck are Moss fans. What do you expect him to say? Nothing? What Moss did was stupid, immature, and yes, disgusting. Nobody needed Buck to point that out. He said the words before I could even open my mouth.
Who would you rather have? Madden? Gimmie a break. I've heard enough "booms", "pows", and "whaps" to last a lifetime. Summeral? He's already passed out.
MaddEnemy
01-13-2005, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by dirtywhiteboy
Who would you rather have? Madden? Gimmie a break. I've heard enough "booms", "pows", and "whaps" to last a lifetime. Summeral? He's already passed out.
Madden and Summeral, it could be much worse....
Dennis Miller:redhot:
MountaineerDave
01-13-2005, 02:53 PM
I'd much rather hear Madden, and I despise Madden.
See, the thing is, Madden might have given you some honesty. He might have told you that while Moss was showing his brainier side, this was a common practice of Packers fans to the opponent's bus as it rolls out of town.
Which, as was noted in the Moss thread (since closed), puts the celebration in a bit of perspective.
Dave
HibachiDG
01-13-2005, 02:59 PM
Maybe, but Madden would be more likely to launch into something such as..."Well now Moss, caught the ball, in the end zone, that there is a touchdown. So then the players, well, you see now he's doing one of those, those after scoring, dances, one of those moments where they do something, like a dance, spike the football, move their hips, there. One of those celebrations. He went over to the goal post, he pulled down his pants *laugh*, what is this fella doing? Wait, no, the pants are still on, so he did like he was pulling his pants down there, now the pants are still on, but maybe the people in the crowd, the the fans, maybe they think that because he went to pull his pants down, well, did pull his pants down but didn't, he might have, well, tricked them into thinking that his butt was exposed. All of that comes from the play before, where the quarterback threw the ball."
FSUViking
01-13-2005, 03:44 PM
The only people mad at Joe Buck are Moss fans.
That's simply flat out not true. I know plenty of PACKER fans that say he went way over board, and plenty of Moss haters who say the same thing.
What do you expect him to say? Nothing?
I expect him to do what Collinsworth and Aikman TRIED to do...talk about how Moss, on basically one leg, burned Al Harris for a 34 yard touchdown.
Both Chris and Troy tried to talk about the play itself, and Buck interrupted BOTH of them to say what a crime against humanity Moss just committed.
MountaineerDave
01-13-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Doug Graham
Maybe, but Madden would be more likely to launch into something such as..."Well now Moss, caught the ball, in the end zone, that there is a touchdown. So then the players, well, you see now he's doing one of those, those after scoring, dances, one of those moments where they do something, like a dance, spike the football, move their hips, there. One of those celebrations. He went over to the goal post, he pulled down his pants *laugh*, what is this fella doing? Wait, no, the pants are still on, so he did like he was pulling his pants down there, now the pants are still on, but maybe the people in the crowd, the the fans, maybe they think that because he went to pull his pants down, well, did pull his pants down but didn't, he might have, well, tricked them into thinking that his butt was exposed. All of that comes from the play before, where the quarterback threw the ball."
This is best ****ing thing I've read in a week!!!
Thank you, Doug.
Dave
RabidBronco
01-13-2005, 04:51 PM
Maybe the Vikes just want to garner enough headlines over the week, so that the loss against the Eagles on Sunday would be somehow redundant.
Since the NFL started to restrain and penalize TD celebrations (all for the sake of more $$$), players have become aware that the window of opportunity for their actions has widened, and so they do the next logical thing, which is generate controversy.
Controversy sells books, gives you more interviews, gets you to Letterman, ESPN, 20/20, etc. and even gives you the chance to mock people nationally when you partner with TV(see TO with the Desperate Housewives chick on Monday Night Football.
All I'm saying is that the NFL should've never penalized TD celebrations.
Anthony
01-14-2005, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by RabidBronco
Maybe the Vikes just want to garner enough headlines over the week, so that the loss against the Eagles on Sunday would be somehow redundant.
Since the NFL started to restrain and penalize TD celebrations (all for the sake of more $$$), players have become aware that the window of opportunity for their actions has widened, and so they do the next logical thing, which is generate controversy.
Controversy sells books, gives you more interviews, gets you to Letterman, ESPN, 20/20, etc. and even gives you the chance to mock people nationally when you partner with TV(see TO with the Desperate Housewives chick on Monday Night Football.
All I'm saying is that the NFL should've never penalized TD celebrations.
On target - like totally. Let the players more-or-less "police themselves" in situations like this. Professionals remember when someone shows them up or rubs their noses in it, since it provides the victims with what is known as "bulletin-board material."
A perfect example was T.O.'s star-stomping incident; the following year the 49ers had to play in Dallas again, late in the season. The Cowboys, who were completely out of contention, upset them, and it ended up costing the 49ers home field in a wild-card game, which they wound up losing in Green Bay.
That turned out to be a far harsher "punishment" than anything the suits on Park Avenue could have meted out.
dirtywhiteboy
01-14-2005, 06:15 AM
I found an article on the subject, and I agree with everything I've read in it. Thought you all might want to have a look.
Buck Story (www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/martzke/2005-01-13-martzke_x.htm)
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