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Tarkus
10-02-2006, 10:24 PM
Henry gets benched & Palmer moans about it. Lewis has finally made a stand after the last "booze cruise" & now has to see if he can keep the players focused while he lays down the law. It'll be tough when excuses fly after a loss like this last beating...

Lewis comfortable with benching Henry

CINCINNATI (AP) - Chris Henry sure could have helped the Cincinnati Bengals' faltering offense.

Instead of catching passes over a beat-up New England secondary, the troubled receiver was on the sideline in a warmup outfit Sunday - his coach's way of saying he needs to shape up.

Coach Marvin Lewis thinks it worked out well.

Even though he wasn't listed on the injury report all week, Henry was inactive for the Bengals' 38-13 loss to New England. The last time Henry was inactive for a game was last December, after the first of his four arrests.

That benching didn't seem to have much effect. Lewis thinks this one already has been felt across the team.

"I did notice a difference, actually," Lewis said Monday. "I didn't have anybody taunting, in anybody's face or anything like that. That's where I noticed the difference: Guys doing it the way they're asked to do it. I didn't have to worry about the guy taking off his helmet on the field and things like that."

Six Bengals have been arrested in the last nine months, focusing attention on how the team drafts players and how Lewis handles them.

Henry had a history of on-field eruptions at West Virginia, where he was penalized, ejected benched, suspended and described as an embarrassment by his head coach. Lewis drafted him anyway, taking him in the third round last year.

Henry became the team's No. 3 receiver as a rookie, and had one throwback moment. He removed his helmet in celebration after a touchdown, drawing a 15-yard penalty.

Lewis berated him for removing the helmet. He also benched him for one game after his arrest for marijuana possession last December. Mostly, Lewis defended his players while the arrests mounted, insisting that the incidents weren't hurting the team in any way.

Lewis finally lashed out publicly after linebacker Odell Thurman was arrested and charged with drunken driving last week, drawing a season-long suspension from the NFL. Henry was a passenger in the vehicle, but wasn't charged.

Without mentioning a player or specific incident, Lewis emphasized Monday that he is going to enforce standards for conduct.

"Those are things we've got to continually get straight all the time, because I've got to know who I can count on and when I can count on them," Lewis said.

"It's tough," quarterback Carson Palmer said. "He's one of our best receivers. Any time you lose any player, it's tough, especially big-play guys."

The Bengals (3-1) have a lot more than their misconduct to mull during their bye week. Their fast start has hit the wall with a loud thud.

In the last two weeks, the defense hasn't stopped the run and the offensive line hasn't protected Palmer, who has fumbled five times. Lewis thinks the quarterback be bringing some of it on himself.

"He's trying to do too much," Lewis said. "He's trying to win the game. He's a great player, but we've got to take care of the football, and he will. We'll go forward. A couple of times when those fumbles occurred, he just tried to do too much."

The Steelers ran for 170 yards on the Bengals two weeks ago, but had five turnovers that helped Cincinnati pull out a 28-20 win. The Patriots held onto the ball and ran for 236 yards Sunday, repeatedly gashing a defense that had trouble tackling.

They'll be working on that during the bye week.

"We've got to get back to our training camp mentality and come out like we did against Kansas City," defensive end Justin Smith said, referring to the season opener. "We know we have to stop the run, especially in the division were in."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6024364

Ellis
10-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Yeah, it's not looking good for the Bangles. Henry had a huge week previously and the offense just didn't look sharp without him.

You have to like Baltimore in the division, but they have a tough a really tough schedule. The Bangles are still in good position to win the division but they are going to have to put all of the off-field problems behind them and bounce back.

boston_aloha
10-02-2006, 11:25 PM
This team is a joke IMO. I feel sorry for the "good guys" on the team who work hard. THey just have way too many Thugs - or wannabe Thugs.
I mean, get your sh!t together already!!

boston_aloha
10-02-2006, 11:52 PM
I read this yesterday. Gregg Doyel slams them
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9698552
After a series of unabated criminal allegations off the field, the Bengals deserved this nationally televised humiliation. The final score was 38-13. It was harsh, but after six players were arrested this offseason, the Bengals had it coming.

doublee
10-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Well, there is a good chance Henry may end up suspended anyway. As alcohol is a violation of the league's substance abuse policy once you are already in the program which I believe Henry is for a previous DUI.

HibachiDG
10-03-2006, 07:44 PM
Alcohol is really a violation of the league's substance abuse policy? That can't be a part of an across the board NFL policy...I mean, possibly in specific circumstances, but just as a general violation...I highly doubt that.

No one has a problem AT ALL with Marvin Lewis' actions here? He sits Henry out of a game because of this and people accept that? Please. Henry got drunk, should they have gotten a BETTER designated driver? Of course. But, who knows all the circumstances? Maybe Odell was fine and just blew over the legal limit. You punish Henry a game for this?

doublee
10-03-2006, 07:57 PM
Alcohol is really a violation of the league's substance abuse policy? That can't be a part of an across the board NFL policy...I mean, possibly in specific circumstances, but just as a general violation...I highly doubt that.



It is only if you are already in the league's substance abuse program. In other words if you test positive for 'roids or weed then alcohol is off limits until you meet certain requirements of the program.

As long as you stay clear of other substances and don't get nailed for any DUIs you can drink all the booze you want.

HibachiDG
10-03-2006, 08:48 PM
I still don't think they can have an across the board alcohol ban in the for those in the substance abuse policy. Not saying it wasn't a part of Henry's, just would be surprised if the NFL has this.

doublee
10-03-2006, 09:35 PM
I am relatively certain that if a player is in the program and gives a urine sample with a high enough level of alcohol in it then it counts as a violation.

boston_aloha
10-03-2006, 10:45 PM
No one has a problem AT ALL with Marvin Lewis' actions here? He sits Henry out of a game because of this and people accept that? Please. Henry got drunk, should they have gotten a BETTER designated driver? Of course. But, who knows all the circumstances? Maybe Odell was fine and just blew over the legal limit. You punish Henry a game for this?
Henry was ordered by a judge to stay away from alcohol (after he got busted withg some minors and booze). He was seen puking out the driver's side of Odell's vehicle. Odell gets busted for DUI - I doubt Henry had bad shellfesh :rolleyes:

HibachiDG
10-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Good on Henry's lawyer then for likely informing him that there is no way that's going to hold up, but to just smile and nod to the judge.

boston_aloha
10-03-2006, 11:02 PM
Henry had been arrested four times in three states in seven months in the offseason, pleading guilty to a concealed weapons charge while also being accused of such splendid acts as DUI, marijuana possession and serving alcohol to underage girls.

After all that, Henry was allowed to play in the Bengals' first three games. He has been the team's most productive receiver this season, but after his role in teammate Odell Thurman's DUI arrest last week -- Henry, who was ordered to stay away from alcohol by a judge in a previous case, was spotted puking out the car window -- Henry was benched for this game
About time IMO

HibachiDG
10-03-2006, 11:21 PM
Well, that doesn't exactly help me change my opinion that Lewis dropped the ball on this one. Marijuana, fine. Guns, fine. Alcohol to minors, fine. DUI, fine. Now he steps in to keep him out a game? Please. It's just weak of Lewis. I don't understand how he can be so casual about the other stuff and then all of a sudden keep him out of a game for something that wasn't that bad (generally speaking) and certainly not bad in the context of Chris Henry.

The hell with that. Lewis is just concerned with image.

boston_aloha
10-03-2006, 11:25 PM
maybe it was "the straw that broke the camels back"??? Lewis was weak for not benching him earlier - he prob had enough and after this last offense (as minor as it may be compared to the others), he said "f" it!!

HibachiDG
10-03-2006, 11:30 PM
Either that or this was during the regular season where there was certainly more National Coverage of the incident and Lewis needed to maintain his image.

Anthony
10-04-2006, 03:34 AM
It may appear as if I was onto something concerning both the Bengals and the Buccaneers: When you have to move as far up in company as those two teams do this year, there's just no way you match your previous season's record.

Tarkus
10-06-2006, 08:44 PM
Better late than never....

NFL suspends Henry for two games

CINCINNATI (AP) - Bengals receiver Chris Henry received a two-game suspension Friday from the NFL for violating its conduct and substance abuse policies, making him the second Cincinnati player suspended this season for misconduct.

The second-year receiver also was fined $20,000 by the league. The Bengals have their bye this weekend, so Henry will sit out games against Tampa Bay and Carolina later this month.

Henry, who had a history of problems at West Virginia when the Bengals drafted him last year, has been arrested four times since last December. Two cases have been settled - he pleaded guilty to marijuana possession in northern Kentucky, and to a weapon charge in Florida. He avoided jail in both cases, but was subject to discipline from the NFL.

His other two cases are pending, including a drunken driving charge in Ohio.

In all, six Bengals players have been arrested this year on various charges, focusing attention on how the franchise drafted players with problems and how they dealt with them when they came to Cincinnati.

When commissioner Roger Goodell visited Cincinnati last month, he reminded the players of their responsibility to stay out of trouble. Less than a week later, linebacker Odell Thurman - already suspended four games for violating the league's substance abuse policy - was arrested on a drunken driving charge.

The league then suspended Thurman for the rest of the season. Coach Marvin Lewis had Thurman's locker taken away from him, and told him to stay away from the team while he serves his punishment.

Henry, who was a passenger driven by Thurman, was benched by Lewis for the next game, a 38-13 loss to New England last Sunday. Under the league's suspension, Henry will be barred from practice for the next two weeks, but will be allowed to attend meetings.

Players had the weekend off because of the bye. Lewis didn't have any comment on Henry's suspension.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6036512

bama4256
10-07-2006, 10:15 AM
They will be fine. Every team has a bad game every now and then.

boston_aloha
10-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Every team has a bad game now and then, but not every team has 6 guys arrested in one year. This has to disrutp the locker room; especially for the guys that bust their butts. I mean, you lose guys here and there to suspensions, thats gotta be very frustrating. Look at Palmer, coming back from the injury and looking better than most people expected - you know he's gotta be like "WTF??" These wannabe thugs can't get their acts together and its costing the team.

Anthony
10-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Allow me, once again, to cast a dissenting vote here, on the grounds that the NFL is a professional sports league and not a law-enforcement agency.

If the criminal justice system did its job and stuck miscreants like Chris Henry in jail/prison where they belong, they wouldn't be playing while they're locked up, now would they? (Just to retroactively debunk any myth that I'm "soft on crime").

Tarkus
10-08-2006, 01:18 PM
Once again, Anthony...priorities....

The NFL, all the way from the commish down thru the coaches, have a basic responsibility to the league to keep their house in order. Not everything is based on if it's a prosecutable crime.

Would it be OK to act the fool & embarass your employer as long as you didn't get imprisoned by the courts? Of course it wouldn't. It's the same thing here...