Ongoing Sports Betting Thread

[suedon1970]

Boston_Aloha and I decided we wanted to start a sports betting thread. Since we got Marc's blessing, here it is!:thumbup:


Please feel free to post your picks on any sport, and share with us any gambling stories and experiences you've had over the years (including poker). However, please refrain from turning this thread into a soap box for your opinions on online gambling - it will just fall on deaf ears!:D

I will post my picks and stats from time to time. Remember: this is all in fun - I am not a professional, but I get some good info from other sites. Good Luck!!!

[da12ken]

LOL, we all should've seen this coming. Personally I'd rather see "Tarkus' Best of Scantily-Clad Women" thread, but whatever.

When betting on Raiders games, it may be a good idea to take the other, despite the Raiders winning the past two games. Oakland's offense goes nowhere and the defense is stout. Last week's 20 points were very deceiving, considering 14 came from picks off Concussion Ben. How often do teams return an INT for a TD, let alone two in one game?

Andrew Walter has thrown three TD's the entire season and LaMont Jordan has run for only one score. Seattle at -7.5 and at home? I'm not a gambling person, but I'd take that.

EDIT: BTW, I can't wait for usernames like "sportsgamblore" and "winbignowfoos" to start spamming websites here. You brought this on yourself sue.

[Ellis]

You are a year late on this thread. Last year I bet on a ton of sporting events :D. I had to retire though after the I got raped in the NHL and NBA playoffs.

I still make an occasional bet, but not very often. I have only made one all NFL season. I will post any if I make any though.

I do have an ongoing bet that I made after the NBA draft. $10 that JJ Redick wins rookie of the year. The bet is voided if he doesn't play half of the season or more due to an injury.I will probably lose that bet, but JJ Redick is my favorite basketball player, so I made it for fun.That is the only bet I have going right now.

[suedon1970]

EDIT: BTW, I can't wait for usernames like "sportsgamblore" and "winbignowfoos" to start spamming websites here. You brought this on yourself sue.

Thanks Ken, I will take that into consideration:lol:

I like your insight into the Raiders - in fact, I followed your advice earlier this season on a game involving Oakland (can't remember the other team, I just know they covered the spread against the Silver & Black:D )


Basketball is back! Yea!!! I have decided to bet the over on all Phoenix games (my records show I did very well doing that last season). Also, tonight I am taking Charlotte at home +1 over Indiana and Lakers/Warriors over 203 total points for the game.....

[boston_aloha]

I haven't been in the lounge for a while.... nice job Sue! I'm laying of B-ball for now until I do some HW.
I'll have a few of my NFL picks going here ina few days.

[KevinBeane]

GREAT idea Sue and Boston!

I think I will be taking Denver at +2 at Pittsburgh. Nothing else in the NFL jumps out at me. I am tempted to take the G-Men at -13 against the Texans at home, but it's tough betting on a heavy fave to cover in the NFL. Haven't looked at CFB yet.

[boston_aloha]

I know it! What's up with that spread? I'm all over that one myself.

Another dog I like this week is Cincy...

[suedon1970]

I think I will be taking Denver at +2 at Pittsburgh.

I like that pick, KB. Also like Cincy, too. I need to look @ the lines this morning....

Here are the latest lines from Covers.com:

St Louis -2.5 K.C.
Baltimore -3 Cincy
NY Giants -13 Houston
Jax -9.5 Tennessee
Dallas -3 Washington
Buffalo -3.5 Green Bay
NO -1 TB
Atlanta -5 Detroit
Chicago -13.5 Miami
Minn -5 San Francisco
San Diego -12.5 Cleveland
Pitts -2.5 Denver
NE -3 Indy
Seattle -9 Oakland (jumped a point & a half from yesterday!!

[suedon1970]

Leaning towards the following picks for the weekend:

Jax -9.5 over Tennessee - I will probably tease the points by 7 or 7.5 for a little insurance - Titans bad against the run, Taylor & Jones-Drew could have a field day, Garrard a pretty good QB......

Cincy +3 over Baltimore - Cincy 12-2-1 ATS its last 15 away. Not convinced of Bilick's play-calling......

I have already made one bet so far: 49ers/Vikings over 42.5 total points - 49ers have one of the worst passing D's in the NFL.......

[buckeyefan78]

Here are my 3 locks for the weekend...

Boston College -4 over Wake Forest
Ohio State -26.5 over Illinois
Oklahoma -3 over Texas A&M

[suedon1970]

Here are my 3 locks for the weekend...

Boston College -4 over Wake Forest
Ohio State -26.5 over Illinois
Oklahoma -3 over Texas A&M

Like 'em Buckeye - FYI: Ohio State has covered the spread in every game except one this year....:thumbup:

here we go:

11/02/2006 16:32:08 4 Play 7.0 point Teaser: Wagered $10.00 to win $20.00 Unsettled
CF 13 11/4 BOSTON COLLEGE AT WAKE FOREST BOSTON COLLEGE -3.5 (+7.0)
CF 27 11/4 FLORIDA AT VANDERBILT VANDERBILT +17.0 (+7.0)
CF 29 11/4 OHIO ST AT ILLINOIS OHIO ST -23.5 (+7.0)
CF 49 11/4 NORTH CAROLINA AT NOTRE DAME NOTRE DAME -24.5 (+7.0)

[buckeyefan78]

Like 'em Buckeye - FYI: Ohio State has covered the spread in every game except one this year....:thumbup:

I'm gonna try and give 3 locks each week and see how I do. I didn't know if this was legal on here before so I refrained from putting 'em up earlier. Now thanks to Sue's "hobby" :P ...it's Vegas in here 24/7! :thumbup:

[themush]

Some friends and I are pooling some money together and picking some horses during Saturdays Breaders' Cup.

[boston_aloha]

Anyone take any action on tonight WV - Lou game? I didn't wanna touch it!
Here are my picks thus far:
Dallas / Wash OVER (42)
Cincy +3 (Fast Cash: BIG)
G.B +3 (thinking G.B. and the under parlay) - thanks Sue! :P I "officially" ended parlay's 2 years ago... but all your talk... :eek: got me back into them :thumbup:
I try to limit myself to 3 games per Sunday

[KevinBeane]

My college picks:

Maryland (+20) at Clemson
Indiana (+6) at Minnesota
Ohio (-4.5) at Eastern Michigan
Washington (+16.5) at Oregon
USC(-28) at Stanford

All of my picks this week are road teams; there's a winning formula. :rolleyes:

I feel strongest about Indiana (NCAA) and Denver (NFL). I think I might parlay them and forget about everything else.

[boston_aloha]

I feel strongest about Indiana (NCAA) and Denver (NFL). I think I might parlay them and forget about everything else.
thats a good move... I'm loven that Denver line. I'm gonna have to find some to match that with an A&R.

[suedon1970]

Some friends and I are pooling some money together and picking some horses during Saturdays Breaders' Cup.

Got my picks on BC:

Breeder's Cup Turf - Scorpion
BC Sprint - Siren Lure
BC Distaff - Asi Siempre
BC Classic - Brother Derek
BC Filly & Mare Turf - Honey Rider

[boston_aloha]

I didn't know you bet the ponies too Sue? Nice work

[KevinBeane]

My college picks:

Maryland (+20) at Clemson
Indiana (+6) at Minnesota
Ohio (-4.5) at Eastern Michigan
Washington (+16.5) at Oregon
USC(-28) at Stanford

All of my picks this week are road teams; there's a winning formula. :rolleyes:

I feel strongest about Indiana (NCAA) and Denver (NFL). I think I might parlay them and forget about everything else.

I did take that parlay...all I need now is for for Indiana to make up 25 points in 3 1/2 minutes. :thumbup:

[buckeyefan78]

Here are my 3 locks for the weekend...

Boston College -4 over Wake Forest
Ohio State -26.5 over Illinois
Oklahoma -3 over Texas A&M

Looks like I better stick to yelling at 15-year-old kids over late homework assignments. :lol:

[themush]

I had my big money on Pine Island in the BC. Poor horse never saw the curse of themush coming.

[buckeyefan78]

I had my big money on Pine Island in the BC. Poor horse never saw the curse of themush coming.

Would you mind putting a few bucks down on Michigan in two weeks mush?

Thanks...:thumbup:

[themush]

Michigan it is then Buck.

[buckeyefan78]

Thanks mush.

New England is giving Indy 3. I'm gonna try to redeem myself and give another lock. Go with NE. I promise...:lol:

[suedon1970]

Thanks mush.

New England is giving Indy 3. I'm gonna try to redeem myself and give another lock. Go with NE. I promise...:lol:

Buckeye: First rule of sports gambling & making picks is to NEVER say the L-word!!!!:lol:

[buckeyefan78]

Buckeye: First rule of sports gambling & making picks is to NEVER say the L-word!!!!:lol:

Will you put me under your tutelage Sue? I need all the help I can get. :lol: I took a helluva beating here.

Stay tuned for buckeyefan78's locks...errrr...best bets for this upcoming college football weekend. :thumbup:

[suedon1970]

Will you put me under your tutelage Sue? I need all the help I can get. :lol: I took a helluva beating here.


Watch out Buckeye, the L word will get ya in trouble!!:lol:

Last weekend was a BAD one for me. Darn you Ohio State for not even being able to cover a 7-point teaser!!:redhot: Thank God I didn't bet them straight, too!! Went 0-2 on two teaser bets...

I also lost all the races I bet on in the Breeder's Cup....

Went 1-2 on NFL - Won on Denver +3 over Pittsburgh.....

Totals since August 16 (when I started taking meticulous notes on games I have bet on):

MLB : up $104.46
NFL : down $26.68
NCAA FB : up $90.21
NBA : up $11.12 (5-0 on over/under bets!!:thumbup: )
NHL : down $31.42
Misc (Horseracing, Golf, NASCAR, etc.) : down $19.96

Total: up $127.73 - not bad.......:thumbup:

NCAA Basketball starts today fellas!!!:thumbup: I made a little bit of money last year....

[KevinBeane]

NCAA Basketball starts today fellas!!!:thumbup: I made a little bit of money last year....

Yep! Hampton at +23.5 seems like a good pick to me. The heavies sometimes struggle in their opening couple of games against lightweights (see Syracuse's 5 point win against Cornell in the same tournament last year), Maryland isn't that much of a heavy (2 straight NIT years) and Hampton isn't that much of lightweight (2 straight NCAA years, albeit in a terrible conference that always gets a 16th seed).

[buckeyefan78]

Sue...

Do you consult those online sites and other outlets to guide how you bet or do you just go with your own personal knowledge as well as your gut?

[suedon1970]

Sue...

Do you consult those online sites and other outlets to guide how you bet or do you just go with your own personal knowledge as well as your gut?

A combination of all three, but mostly by reading stats and finding out about key injuries. I have found it very important to understand and follow the lines (pointspreads & such) Vegas comes out with. If there is a lot of movement, that means someone knows something we don't! I also check the message boards on sites such as therx.com, statfox, covers.com, etc.

[buckeyefan78]

I think it is more fun just to go with your gut or personal knowledge...for the most part. I guess bias gets in the way though.

Probably why I did so bad on my picks eh Sue? LOL.

[da12ken]

I told y'all to pick the Seahawks...

[suedon1970]

I think it is more fun just to go with your gut or personal knowledge...for the most part. I guess bias gets in the way though.

Probably why I did so bad on my picks eh Sue? LOL.

It IS more fun to go with your own knowledge or gut feeling, especially when you win. I tell you what, handicapping the NFL has been my biggest challenge. I was down more than $80 a few weeks ago but hit two $30 parlays two weeks ago (I am not a big better - usually $5-10 per bet).

[buckeyefan78]

Screw the rules. Here are my locks for this weekend...

Alabama +17 over LSU
Denver -7 over Oakland
Virginia Tech -27 over Kent State

Don't mind the fact I went 0-3 (plus 0-1 on my bonus pick) last week.

[suedon1970]

Screw the rules. Here are my locks for this weekend...

Alabama +17 over LSU
Denver -7 over Oakland
Virginia Tech -27 over Kent State

Don't mind the fact I went 0-3 (plus 0-1 on my bonus pick) last week.

I like the Bama & Denver bet - definitely pounding those!

After my NBA bets last night (2-2) I am now 8-0 on over/under game totals!!!:thumbup:

[suedon1970]

Today's picks:

NHL: Going with TB Lightning/Pittsburgh over 6 total goals for the game...

more to come....

[buckeyefan78]

I've never gambled on baseball or hockey or even basketball. Come to think of it, I've only gambled on football. And I haven't done it in years.

[suedon1970]

Today's picks:

NHL: Going with TB Lightning/Pittsburgh over 6 total goals for the game...

more to come....

FINALLY won a hockey bet for a change!:D

Picks of the day later..........

[suedon1970]

College Football Picks:

Alabama (+18.5) vs LSU
Texas (-16) vs Kansas State
Hawaii (-21.5) vs Louisiana Tech

Also betting first college basketball game:

N.C. State (-13) over Wofford

GLTA!

[da12ken]

GLTA: good luck to all or Gay, Lesbian and Transgender Association?

[suedon1970]

GLTA: good luck to all or Gay, Lesbian and Transgender Association?

Yikes:eek:

I meant good luck to all - sorry for the confusion!

Ken: decided to take Denver (-9.5) over the Raiders!

[da12ken]

Yea, that looks like a winner. I'd like to see how the Denver rushing attack matches up with the Raiders D. Burgess has been a monster; dude has like 10 sacks.

Gay, Lesbian and Transgender Association!

[boston_aloha]

And the Steelers are favored again?

[buckeyefan78]

And the Steelers are favored again?

Yeah...I've been noticing that every week. How many games do ya gotta lose before they change this?

[Tarkus]

http://www.filehigh.com/serve/5293/274029.gif

[suedon1970]

Oh, Tark, you are the best.....:lol:

Also, how did you find a picture of me?;)

[buckeyefan78]

Well...I'm 1-6 since we started this thread. Damn Sue and her bright ideas.

Will I give up? NEVER!

Locks for this weekend...

Auburn -3 over Alabama
WVU -11 over Pitt
Buffalo +38 over Wisconsin

[Tarkus]

...how did you find a picture of me?;)

My bookie, of course....:D

[suedon1970]

Hello all! It's Thursday and time to get back into doing some daily picks.......

NBA: Two games tonight. Only thing that has worked for me so far this season is betting on over/unders, so my only bet is:

Kings/Warriors - over 199.5 points for game

BTW: my record so far this season on O/U is a whopping 10-0!!!

More picks later, but I am leaning on West Virginia and the points vs Pitt

[KevinBeane]

I only have one lock this week and that's homestanding Wake Forest (+2!) over Viriginia Tech. When is Wake Forest gonna start getting any credit? They blew the only game they lost.

[tobynosker]

Originally Posted by KevinBeane
When is Wake Forest gonna start getting any credit?

Get credit? From people on this site?

Let me ask you a couple more questions...

Do they play in the Big Ten? How about the SEC?

Then, they get NO CREDIT!

[themush]

Louisville -16.5 over S. Florida
Auburn - 3 over Alabama
Troy -8 over Arkansas St.

[buckeyefan78]

Louisville -16.5 over S. Florida
Auburn - 3 over Alabama
Troy -8 over Arkansas St.

Did you just pick a Sun Belt game mush?

Are you rollin' with Jimmy the Greek or something? :P

[themush]

I know some people who know some people;) Seriously though, I went to Troy so I follow thier athletic program. Remember they almost won in Tallahassee this year.

[buckeyefan78]

I went to Troy so I follow thier athletic program. Remember they almost won in Tallahassee this year.

I didn't know that you went to Troy.

Ohio State plays 'em in 2008. I'll give you 50 points. :lol:

Didn't Troy beat Mizzou a few years back...or come close?

[themush]

Yeah they beat'em. Lost to FSU by 7 Ga. Tech 15 and Nebraska by 56:eek:

[buckeyefan78]

Actually Ohio State plays Youngstown State (where I sat and stared at a wall for 4 years) in 2008 as well. I say we have a contest mush:

If YSU loses to OSU by less points than Troy does, you gotta put up a Buckeye avatar.

If Troy loses to OSU by less points than YSU does, I gotta put up a Gator avatar.

This arrangement might disrupt the space time continuum and destroy the universe though.

[themush]

How can I turn down that bet?

[buckeyefan78]

:lol:

Well...I think you have an advantage cuz Troy is I-A (more scholarships) but YSU is a pretty solid I-AA school that plays in the toughest conference at that level.

You know...just like Ohio State plays in the toughest conference at their level. :thumbup:

:P

Anyway...I think it's close enough to make it a bet (shakes mush's hand to make it official).

[suedon1970]

Hey, Buckeye & Mush: Stop hijaking this thread! Betting avatars does NOT count!:lol:

[catman]

Avatar bets are best handled in the forum for the game or series. This is for serious betting........or something like that.

[suedon1970]

Got a six team parlay on the NHL tonight. Bet $20 to win $350.00.....

[themush]

Louisville -16.5 over S. Florida
Auburn - 3 over Alabama
Troy -8 over Arkansas St.


Well my Sun Belt lock didn't come though but 2 out of 3 aint bad is it??

[boston_aloha]

Got a six team parlay on the NHL tonight. Bet $20 to win $350.00.....

Wow!! Good luck... believe it or not a hit a 5 team hockey parlay a few years ago... I had the over - all teams had to score 5 goals or higher and they actually did! So lets see... that makes me 1-34 in 5 team parlays!! :lol: :thumbup:

[catman]

Got a six team parlay on the NHL tonight. Bet $20 to win $350.00.....

Good for you. Party at Sue's house!!!!!

[suedon1970]

Good for you. Party at Sue's house!!!!!

Well..........:(

I unfortunately did not win.....Oh, well, it was worth trying. I have hit on 4 and 5-team parlays and teasers in the past, but never a 6-teamer. I couldn't resist the payday if I did win. :D

[buckeyefan78]

Hey, Buckeye & Mush: Stop hijaking this thread! Betting avatars does NOT count!:lol:

:lol:

I won all 3 of my games this weekend (Bama-Auburn, Pitt-WVU, and Wisc-Buffalo). Maybe Vegas won't eat me alive. :thumbup:

Gimme a day or two for my locks this weekend.

[suedon1970]

Man oh man, this thread got bumped to the bottom, didn't it?:thumbdown:

I had a bad weekend of betting - lost nearly every bet except two NBA over/unders - I am now 13-1 for the season!:thumbup:

Here are my picks for today (11/28):

College Basketball:

Indiana (+13) vs Duke - Can't see laying that many points on Duke. Indiana, even tho they are currently unranked, have played well so far under Kelvin "telephone man" Sampson. :lol:

Wisconsin (-11) vs FSU - Wisconsin is a great club, ranked in the top 10; FSU stinks. enough said.........:D

NHL:

Atlanta/NY Rangers - under 6 goals - both teams have good goalies and poor power-play percentages.

NBA/College BB:

3 team, 6 point teaser: Nuggets (-5.5) LA Lakers (-3.5) & Indiana U (+17.5)
Like the NBA home teams in this teaser, have had BAD luck betting straight point-spread on NBA so far this season, so we'll see..........


I will give my college FB & NFL picks later this week....Good Luck!!!:thumbup:

[buckeyefan78]

Here are my NFL locks for this weekend...

Kansas City -5 over Cleveland
NY Jets +1 over Green Bay
Oakland -3 over Houston

[Tarkus]

You may want to re-think that Oakland pick, Buckeye...

The Raiders replaced OC Tom Walsh with ex-Bear OC John Shoop. All they have to watch out for are WR screens & Houston'll be alright...:P

If Randy Moss was "unhappy" & disinterested with Walsh, he'll be suicidal under Shoop cuz things are about to get a lot more dismal in Oakland....

[buckeyefan78]

You may want to re-think that Oakland pick, Buckeye...

The Raiders replaced OC Tom Walsh with ex-Bear OC John Shoop. All they have to watch out for are WR screens & Houston'll be alright...:P

If Randy Moss was "unhappy" & disinterested with Walsh, he'll be suicidal under Shoop cuz things are about to get a lot more dismal in Oakland....

Yeah, I just read that. I'm stickin' with it though. Never doubt the silver and black...:rolleyes:

[suedon1970]

Here are my NFL locks for this weekend...

Kansas City -5 over Cleveland
NY Jets +1 over Green Bay
Oakland -3 over Houston

Buckeye, I really like all three of these - I got Oakland at -2.5 on 5dimes.com - really excited about that. I think the Rayda's D is really good (Sapp is playing like he did in Tampa) and will shut down the Texans....

Today's Bets (11/29):

College BB:

Ohio State (+7.5) over North Carolina - Obviously rooting for the Heels but I think it will be closer than this and OSU could even win outright.

[suedon1970]

Wager type : Parlay Select #1 : Jacksonville Jaguars 12/3/2006 4:05:01 PM - (EST)Spread pk -110 for Game
Select #2 : NFL Football Washington Redskins 12/3/2006 1:00:01 PM - (EST)Spread -1½ -110 for Game
Select #3 : NFL Football Detroit Lions/New England Patriots 12/3/2006 1:00:01 PM - (EST) Total Points UNDER 41½ -110 for Game
Select #4 : NFL Football Green Bay Packers 12/3/2006 1:00:01 PM - (EST) Spread pk -110 for Game
Select #5 : NFL Football Seattle Seahawks 12/3/2006 8:15:01 PM - (EST) Spread +4 -110 for Game

Amount : Risking 5.00 To Win 125.00 USD

:thumbup:

[boston_aloha]

I like that NE under as well

[suedon1970]

I like that NE under as well

Steve, you've been quiet about your picks these days! You need to share!!:D

[boston_aloha]

I know... I've been laying off a little... I was mad I missed a BIG bet last week that owuld of paid off... when I do that, I lay off for a while cuz I feel like I'm gonna lose (dumb, I know!).
I'll get some pics in tonight at work.

[boston_aloha]

Good games this week...
I like New York, New York!
Jets (pk)
Giants (+3.5)

Here are some other games that looked good but I won't touch
NE (-13.5) I never bet on my team
Indy (-7.5) I want them to lose :D
Miami (pk) I think thye can pull it off... but I prob won't touch it

[buckeyefan78]

Buckeye, I really like all three of these - I got Oakland at -2.5 on 5dimes.com - really excited about that. I think the Rayda's D is really good (Sapp is playing like he did in Tampa) and will shut down the Texans....

Today's Bets (11/29):

College BB:

Ohio State (+7.5) over North Carolina - Obviously rooting for the Heels but I think it will be closer than this and OSU could even win outright.

Way to go and jinx my Bucks sue. Do me a favor and try not to put any $ down on all future Buckeye sporting events. :P

[suedon1970]

Way to go and jinx my Bucks sue. Do me a favor and try not to put any $ down on all future Buckeye sporting events. :P

Hey, I've been betting on them all year in football, and it never slowed 'em down, did it?:D

I had my worst weekend of betting EVER! 0-7 on NFL & College Football bets!!!:eek:

Darn USC and the Raiders!!!!:redhot:

Plays of the day (12/4):

NHL:

Nashville Preds - Team total over 3 goals for game vs. Coyotes

NCAABB:

Davidson (+1) vs UNC-Greensboro

[suedon1970]

Good games this week...
I like New York, New York!
Jets (pk)
Giants (+3.5)


Great picks Steve!:thumbup:

[boston_aloha]

Thanks Sue - hey how bout all my "other pics, but didn't touch 'em"??? LOL those were bombs BAD!!!! ha ha - I hope no one jumped on that crap!!
NE doesnt cover, Indi staight up loses, Miami gets blown out (or close to) ha ha...

Which way is everyone going tonight? My golden rule - I'm not big on this game and I won this weekend, so I'm just gonaa watch and enjoy it. If I was down, I prob take it (like a true compulsive gambler!)

[suedon1970]

Which way is everyone going tonight? My golden rule - I'm not big on this game and I won this weekend, so I'm just gonaa watch and enjoy it. If I was down, I prob take it (like a true compulsive gambler!)

The only bet I had on the Eagles/Panthers game was Carolina (-1.5) for the first half, which they covered in the last 7 seconds of the 2nd quarter:thumbup:

[boston_aloha]

I like New England -3.5 this week (ahhhh :eek: ) here we go!! That is gonna be a tuff game - but I can see New England going down there and making a statement and winning by 2 TD's late.
And the Jets -3.5 :thumbup: I think I'm gonna ride the Jets the rest of the season. I have that feeling.

[suedon1970]

And the Jets -3.5 :thumbup: I think I'm gonna ride the Jets the rest of the season. I have that feeling.

I like this one, too. I have been absolutely lousy betting on the NFL this year! Gotta try to make up for my losses!:lol:

[boston_aloha]

Gotta try to make up for my losses!:lol:
LOL... gee... how many times have I said that (with a few Redbull / Vodka's in me) just before some of the WORST sunday night games in NFL history!! :lol:

[boston_aloha]

Sue - question for you (and everyone if they'd like to contribute)
Actually 2 questions - I wanted to know what you think about that Gruden thread (since you are a Tampa gal) and 2 (this is for everyone) - talking about a last minute meaningless FG instead of going endzone reminded me of something.
What's the WORST bet you ever lost?
This Gruden thing reminded me of the worst bet I lost. AFC Playoffs in 2002 - I dumped a cool $1,000 (I rolled that year so I was betting big in the playoffs) on the Jets / Indy OVER (43) and the Jets won 41-0!!! I was devestated... how do you lose an over when ONE team puts up 41 points!! (well obviously we know now :D) But I remember with the clock running down and the Colts trying to get in the endzone with a couple minutes left I was screaming for them to kick a FG!! LOL...

Kind of funny - on the flip side - best bet I ever won was the same year, playoffs too! Bucs / Niners. I don't remember the score, but I had the under. Going into half time only a field goal was needed for me to lose. The second half was a complete shutout for both teams! At the end the Niners were trying to get in the endzone too... so again I was screaming. Ronde Barber picked off Garcia and ran it back for a TD but it was called back... great game for a gambler!!!

Sorry to go on and on... just felt like telling a few gambling stories :D

[suedon1970]

Actually 2 questions - I wanted to know what you think about that Gruden thread (since you are a Tampa gal)

Not really sure, I don't think kicking the FG at the end of the game was "classless" or "gutless", but I would've opted to go for the endzone. A loss is a loss......

What's the WORST bet you ever lost?

Well, other than going 0-7 this weekend in NFL & College football bets :redhot: ?

I had some money on an NBA game last year. The spread was like -8 and the team I picked allowed an uncontested 3-pointer with 10 seconds left, allowing the other team to cover. Man was I LIVID!!!:lol:

[boston_aloha]

I love buzzer shots! (when they are in your favor) AI pulled me out of the gutter one sunday afternoon with a 3pt shot to make the over with seconds left... DEEP out of the gutter if you know what I mean ;)

[Anthony]

Wow ... that covers.com site is awesome!

Thanks for the heads-up, suedon.

Might start using it in the NFL Pointspread Contest - where a detailed synopsis of my picks can be found, each and every week.

[boston_aloha]

I was off last week on vacation... whos got their pics in this week?

[suedon1970]

I was off last week on vacation... whos got their pics in this week?

I don't know if I will have time....have to fly to Memphis today for a funeral tomorrow, but I will try to post my picks on Saturday after I get back......

[boston_aloha]

Awe... sorry to hear about that. :(
I'll post my picks later today...

[suedon1970]

Awe... sorry to hear about that. :(
I'll post my picks later today...

Thanks Steve. I'm here at work for a few hours before I leave. I did place a bet just now:

Seattle/San Francisco - under 42.5 points for game (Matchbook) - expecting very high winds and rain tonight in Seattle......

[boston_aloha]

Oh yeah.. that line opened at 44 and now I have it at 40.5

Nice bet

[nojob67]

I see some value with Atlanta tonight. I see them winning outright.

[suedon1970]

Geez, this thread got bumped to the second page:redhot:

Suedon's plays of the day (12/19):

NBA:

taking the under on the Raptors/Suns game - Suns should blow them out, so no excessive freethrows at the end of the game.

Duke/Kent State (+16) - Dook students already on Christmas break, players ready for the break too, etc. Too many points on an overrated Dook team, IMO :lol:

[nojob67]

first college bowl game of the season N. Illinois + 11.5

this is a system play that went 5-0 last year.

[suedon1970]

first college bowl game of the season N. Illinois + 11.5

this is a system play that went 5-0 last year.

I took TCU -12....

Good Luck!!!:)

[nojob67]

Thanks good luck to you as well Suedon1970

[Marino13]

Like NIU +12.5

70% of the betting public is on TCU

[nojob67]

Marino13, where are you finding them at +12.5...I'd like to get in on that

[suedon1970]

Like NIU +12.5

70% of the betting public is on TCU

Counting on backup QB for NIU to not get passing game going; TCU's defense should then be able to stop Wolfe easily.....

[Marino13]

Marino13, where are you finding them at +12.5...I'd like to get in on that

Sportsbook.com

It's also at 12.5 at Pinnacle, WSEX and 5dimes. You can get 13 at BoDog, but I don't have an account with them. Horrible book.

[nojob67]

Thank you very much Marino13, I appreciate the help

[nojob67]

Looks like I'm 0-2 posting on this message board...I'll be doing my best to improve this record over this college bowl season.

[boston_aloha]

I got some serious homework to do this week... I didn't get any of my picks in last week... sucks!

[nojob67]

Aloha Steve, I'm looking at tomorrow's bowl game and leaning towards Oregon right now, but still researching.

Do you have any thoughts on that game?

[boston_aloha]

Not yet... let me check it out...

[boston_aloha]

I was thinking Oregon too. But man, thats a tuff one... I was planning on laying off

[boston_aloha]

I'll tell ya what catches my eye right away (this is for all you compulsive types that just have to place a bet Thursday and Sat - like me!!! :lol:)
Thur - Minn / GB over 36
Sat - K.C. / Oak over 36.5
Weather in GB could be a factor so do your HW and stay on top of it. I like KC to have a big game, but also Oak to put up a few points as well.
I'm going easy on these games, nothing to big $$.

How bout Baltimore getting points (+3.5) in Pittsburgh??? McNair is playing, plus they are playing for that 1st round bye, right? This game is huge IMO. Steelers have been turning it on (as we discussed in other threads) but I think +3.5 is BIG. What do you guys think? Sue, you seen this one???

[suedon1970]

I'll tell ya what catches my eye right away (this is for all you compulsive types that just have to place a bet Thursday and Sat - like me!!! :lol:)
Thur - Minn / GB over 36
Sat - K.C. / Oak over 36.5
Weather in GB could be a factor so do your HW and stay on top of it. I like KC to have a big game, but also Oak to put up a few points as well.
I'm going easy on these games, nothing to big $$.

How bout Baltimore getting points (+3.5) in Pittsburgh??? McNair is playing, plus they are playing for that 1st round bye, right? This game is huge IMO. Steelers have been turning it on (as we discussed in other threads) but I think +3.5 is BIG. What do you guys think? Sue, you seen this one???


I like the Minn/GB over bet. Gotta check the weather report on Thursday, but usually the weather doesn't bother Favre.

Right now the public is 52% on Baltimore - some places have Pitt -3. Not sure about this one, I probably will pass on this game.

[boston_aloha]

I like a lot of dogs this week... Cincy getting points in Denver is big too...
and Xmas day special... Eagles getting a TD :D

[suedon1970]

Just placed this bet:

Pinnacle: 6-pt teaser:

Vikings/Packers over 30 pts for game plus Packers (+2.5) - 1 unit

[Marino13]

Well, last nights game sucked.

I went ahead and played the over 62 in Ore/BYU. Whenever the total is that high, it usually hits.:cool:

[Marc]

Please check out this site's sponsors if you get a chance. The banner at the top of this page is for various sportsbooks and by signing up with them, you help me fund this site for you all. :thumbup:

[boston_aloha]

Just placed this bet:

Pinnacle: 6-pt teaser:

Vikings/Packers over 30 pts for game plus Packers (+2.5) - 1 unit

I like that... now you got me thinking 6 point teaser. I'm thinking both those 36 point unders (Thur and Sat).

[boston_aloha]

Hang on to that Green Bay / Minn over!! Now that Minn is going with Tavaris Jackson over Brad Johnson, that may come into play. Eh, I'm still going over!! :lol:

[nojob67]

I'm going to have to go with Oregon +3 today in the Las Vegas Bowl.

- in the history of the Las Vegas Bowl Dogs are 6-2 against the spread

[boston_aloha]

Me too... nice book. This may be the weekend for dogs IMO... I like 2 or 3 already

[boston_aloha]

Wow... so much for that GB/Minn over... ehhh :thumbdown:

[KevinBeane]

I'm going with the UNDER on the KC/Oak game tonight (aka Kevin and Steve's Battle Royale!!) as part of a parlay with Hawaii (-7) vs. Arizona State tomorrow.

[boston_aloha]

Eh, I did ok this weekend... got blasted on the early part with the bogus overs!! But all my dogs covered (Cincy, Balt, and Philly) so that helped in the comeback. What a merry Xmas it was to see TO with his stupid Santa hat on lose not only the game, but the division lead to his old team with Garcia leading the way. Loved it!
I gotta do my HW this week for my picks... :)

[JJDoe]

One of my favorite teams vs. the NFC #1 seed. Does anyone want to bet on that game? I say the Packers win by a FG.

[nojob67]

Does anyone have any opinions on tonight's Bowl game. I think I'm leaning towards FSU, but I have been really cold lately and they are my favorite college team so I might be playing with my heart here. What does everyone here think?

[KevinBeane]

Does anyone have any opinions on tonight's Bowl game. I think I'm leaning towards FSU, but I have been really cold lately and they are my favorite college team so I might be playing with my heart here. What does everyone here think?


Stay away. Both these teams (especially UCLA) are quite schizophrenic.

[suedon1970]

Stay away. Both these teams (especially UCLA) are quite schizophrenic.

KB, I wish I had listened to your advice. Took UCLA & the under:thumbdown:

Looking at today and this weekend.....

NFL Saturday: Skins (+3) over the Giants - Bodog - 2 units.......

[nojob67]

I like Texas A&m tonight +3 and under 26.5 for the first half

Any thoughts Suedon1970?

[suedon1970]

I like Texas A&m tonight +3 and under 26.5 for the first half

Any thoughts Suedon1970?

Like it! Like the under for the first half, too. Have you had success with first half betting, nojob?

[nojob67]

I don't really do it too often, I think it's been 5 times this college season but I have cashed in on most of them (I believe that I'm 4-1). I will go back through my records and check it out to make sure.

[boston_aloha]

I hate week 17!! I ALWAYS get killed... word to the wise - take the opposite of my pics this week.

[suedon1970]

Okay, first round of the NFL playoffs start today-

my bets so far:

NY Jets (+9.5)
Dallas (+3)
4 team teaser: Colts (-1), Cowboys (+8.5), Eagles (-1) & Jets (+15) - pays 3-1

also took KC/Indy under 51 points.......

[boston_aloha]

wow - thats a good bet Sue...
Yeah, Jets with the points looks good. I dont know where they got -9??? Crazy!

[boston_aloha]

Ok, now I know where they got -9. Sue... that INT by Samuel duped you!!

[suedon1970]

Ok, now I know where they got -9. Sue... that INT by Samuel duped you!!

OMG!!!! You have no idea how angry I was at Chad Pennington!!!:redhot:

Cost me BIG bucks!!!!!!

[suedon1970]

well, I was 2-2 on my NFL bets this weekend but 0-3 on College BB - Darn you UCLA:redhot:

My Monday picks:

College FB:

Ohio State (-7.5)....:(

I will post my other picks later.......

[nojob67]

I like under 46 tonight suedon1970...and i might like Florida, but I will have to look a little harder at the side

[suedon1970]

Hey nojob:

What do you think of the over/under 23 points for the first half of the OSU/Fla game? I want to make another bet and was thinking that might be a fun one. Which way would you lean?

[boston_aloha]

My Monday picks:
College FB:
Ohio State (-7.5)....:(

What!!! Tell me that's a joke!!

[suedon1970]

What!!! Tell me that's a joke!!

I know, I know...........

But I did that to jinx OSU, and it worked!!!:D

[suedon1970]

Okay. College Football is finished. I ended up with a record of 38-40 - +20 units....

My NBA picks today:

Pistons (-3) over 76ers

Lakers (-2.5) over Grizz


Season YTD:

28-19 - +5.5 units

[nojob67]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night suedon1970.

I really like your Pistons play...I will tail you on that one

I like ND +5 in NCAA hoops tonight

[suedon1970]

Sorry I didn't get back to you last night suedon1970.

I really like your Pistons play...I will tail you on that one

I like ND +5 in NCAA hoops tonight

That's cool - I was leaning on the over 23 pts for the first half but didn't get the chance to make the bet - now I am kicking myself!!!:mad:

Don't you agree that the Detroit line is almost a misprint? I definitely had to jump on that one....

GL

[nojob67]

Yeah I didn't realize it was only 3. I don't play much NBA ever but this looks too good, thans for the heads up.

[nojob67]

Chargers -4.5 is a big play for me today.

Are you playing any games today suedon?

[nojob67]

It seems like I never win when I post here...I will keep trying though. This time it was Marlon McCree. Whatwas doing intercepting the ball on fourth down. If he just knocked it down, the Chargers would havae had the ball. Instead he fumbled and gave Brady the ball back.

[nojob67]

I like Clemson +4 tonight vs. UNC in NCAA Hoops

[suedon1970]

I like Clemson +4 tonight vs. UNC in NCAA Hoops

Sorry nojob - just got back from vacation.....

Clemson sounds like a good one - I'm on W Virginia (-13.5) vs So Fla.....

[suedon1970]

Chargers -4.5 is a big play for me today.

Are you playing any games today suedon?

I took NE & the points:thumbup:

I will probably take NE for this weekend's game too, plus I already have a prop bet that NE will win the AFC Championship.....

[nojob67]

good luck to you ...I'm leaning towards the Colts, although it is against my better judgement.

I like W Va tonight I will follow you on that one. Thanks

[nojob67]

Another loser for me...and you too Suedon. I'm sure I'll be back today with another play. Good luck to you today

[suedon1970]

Man! Didn't realize I hadn't posted in this thread since January!!!

Gotta resurrect this one, too.

My NCAA FB plays for this week:

Texas A & M +2.5
Central Fla -7 over Memphis


More to come.....:thumbsup2:

[suedon1970]

Texas A&M:mad:

Add:

Tennessee -19.5
Clemson -7


NFL:

Seahawks/Bengals over 49.5 points for game:thumbsup2:

[Dano]

IM not handicapping anything just yet. I have a gambling story I would like to share with the class.

In 1978 I was 21 and have never been to a horse race.Arkansas is home for Oaklawn Park, which is in the spa city of Hot Springs. My best friend talked me into going on a weekend so we could live it up with strippers, booze and our huge winnings we would make at the track.
We left for the 80 mile drive after we got off work on Friday and checked into the only room we could find without a reservation with was a motel court style roach invested hell hole. But we wasn't worried, because tomorrow, we would have won enough money on the ponies to buy this town.
We hit a greasy spoon and choke down some chow, hit a tittie bar and realize we were both dog tired so we went back to cockroach heaven and hit the hay.
Saturday sunlight hit our swollen red eye with a fury. After a shower and a change of underwear we hit the track. Damn, this was new territory to this young punk. My friend's dad was a regular at Hot Springs during the racing season. He knew his way there pretty good so he taught me the ropes, in a speed course. I bought a racing form and when I open it up, to me it look like something in Chinese. I couldn't make heads or tails of the dang thing. I knew right then, it was going to be a long day.
The first three races of the day didn't go anywhere near my way. My nag either finish next to last or dead last. It was then I started feeling sorry for my self. Hell I had a dead end job at 21 years of age and I knew how hard the money I was gambling with was to make. It was then sitting by myself that I got a break.
Earlier my friend told me his father always claimed that it was a know fact that during a regular day of racing, one race there would be a "Jockeys" race. That's where the Jockeys would pool their money and throw a race where a long-shot would win and they would collect. Urban Legion, that's all it is. But I didn't know that. Hell, I was 21 and I was going to outsmart this bunch of hillbillies.
With 11 races schedule that day, right before the 7th race I notice a old man with a bright green blazer on with the Oaklawn Park logo on the pocket of the jacket. I ask a woman sitting next to me what was up with him. She said he was the doorman to the jockeys locker room. I thought, Thank you Jesus.
As I sat there watching the odds board, I notice that guys would approach this old gentlemen standing in front of the door and they would open a racing form up and hold it in front of him. The old guy would look at the form, never touching it, then turn around with his back to this individual, and put his palm up where the guy with the form would place some cash into his hand. The old guy then would turn back around, now facing the guy and take a pen from his blazer checking a horse. The guy would leave and make his way to the window. the old man would then open the door to the locker room where he isn't seen until minutes before the next race.
this went on the rest of the day with different people greasing this old farts palms. So I got enough courage right before the 10 race and followed the last guy to do this. I turned him around and ask, hey pal, what's the deal with grandpa and the racing form. The guy said, don't you know man, that old bastard knows what horse he checks will do, the jockeys tells him. I said Bull Shimp. He assured me it was true. I guess the guy thought I was a mobster or something, cause I was acting the part.
The guy show me what the old man have marked in his form. It simply had written in the form, on the tenth race, Show-#7. I watch the guy put $500 on #7 to show. Then followed him outside to watch the race.
What I seen next was totally amazing. Some how, that #7 horse found a way to finish 3rd, and win the show money. The damn show money paid $6.40. So this guy had a great paid day.
I at that point had visions of retirement in my head at the ripe old age of 21. I dashed back in to head for that door which gramps were watching to get him to mark my form. He wasn't around. No worries, it was still early. As the minutes went by I must have sweat a ton of fluid from my system. Then the Locker room door open, and there step out pop's, my new hero. I ran toward him like a little kid at Christmas would run toward Santa in Macy's. I got to him, and like the guys before me did, I put my sweat soaked form in front of him. He turned around, putting his back to me, and placing his hand, palm up. I froze for a few seconds, forgetting I had to grease him for the valuable info. I quickly reach in my pocket pulling out a $5 spot. The old fellow turn around looking down at the amount of money I had just placed into his hand, then he turned around with his back to me again. this time I could fumble, I had to get this right, cause post time was just minutes away and it was the last race of the weekend. This time I did it right, I put and additional twenty in his hand. He again turned back around, this time looking up to me and nodded his head at me then taking his pen from his jacket and wrote the following on my form. #3-to win. I haul ass to the nearest betting window where there was a line of 7 or 8 people ahead of me. No, I did make it before the bell sounded and bet the rest of my pay check on #3-Win. $150 smackers would make me a pretty good weekend's fortune. I had forgot I had a couple of dollars left in my pocket, so on the way to view the race outside, I bought a $7 dollar cigar, after all I was about to be the richest 21 year old in the Spa city in just a few minutes, I could afford it.
The last race of the day started on the far side of the track. So it was a short race finishing in front of the grand stands, where me and my new cigar were. The announcer barked out, " And their off" As I turned to see the start The next thing I heard from the announcer was, "and the #3 horse has jump the fence." I swallowed my cigar, burnt my tongue, and twisted an ankle running back to that freaking locker room door. The old man was half way back to the nursing home for supper by the time I got there. Come to find out later, the #3 horse was so drugged up it went crazy wanting to get out from that starting gate. Last Time I seen it was heading toward Little Rock with a good deal of speed.

I never recovered from that day. The money was gone, and I was in ruin as a 21 year old. If any of you more successful people here would like to give to a good cause, let me know.
Next year it will mark the 30 year anniversary of that fateful day. The only rewards I carry from that event is the fact know that old bastard was 90 then so there is no way in hell his is still kicking today. I hope his last moments on earth was him laying on the ground, looking up at the horse that had just kicked him in the nutz. And I hope it was good ole #3, in the 11th race back in 78.

[buckeyefan78]

Here are some college football locks for this weekend. Home team in CAPS.

Michigan -16.5 over NORTHWESTERN
VIRGINIA -6.5 over Pittsburgh
Arizona State -15 over STANFORD
Cincinnati -13.5 over SAN DIEGO STATE

[themush]

I like the Cinci game also.

[buckeyefan78]

I like the Cinci game also.

That's the one I'm least sure about. :lol:

I'm still callin' it a "lock" though.

[Ellis]

Cool story Dano, although I am sorry about the loss. That's what you are supposed to do with money when you are young though, right?

My uncle owns race horses, so I have been down to a track in PA a few times. No fortunes won or lost though, I am sorry to report. They just added slots to the racing tracks in PA though, so now they are bringing a lot of old people.

I do have a story from when I was younger and used to go to the track though...

We got up at four in the morning, that first day in the east. On the
evening before we had climbed off a freight train at the edge of town,
and with the true instinct of Kentucky boys had found our way across
town and to the race track and the stables at once. Then we knew we
were all right. Hanley Turner right away found a ****** we knew. It was
Bildad Johnson who in the winter works at Ed Becker's livery barn in
our home town, Beckersville. Bildad is a good cook as almost all our
******s are and of course he, like everyone in our part of Kentucky who
is anyone at all, likes the horses. In the spring Bildad begins to
scratch around. A ****** from our country can flatter and wheedle
anyone into letting him do most anything he wants. Bildad wheedles the
stable men and the trainers from the horse farms in our country around
Lexington. The trainers come into town in the evening to stand around
and talk and maybe get into a poker game. Bildad gets in with them. He
is always doing little favors and telling about things to eat, chicken
browned in a pan, and how is the best way to cook sweet potatoes and
corn bread. It makes your mouth water to hear him.

When the racing season comes on and the horses go to the races and
there is all the talk on the streets in the evenings about the new
colts, and everyone says when they are going over to Lexington or to
the spring meeting at Churchhill Downs or to Latonia, and the horsemen
that have been down to New Orleans or maybe at the winter meeting at
Havana in Cuba come home to spend a week before they start out again,
at such a time when everything talked about in Beckersville is just
horses and nothing else and the outfits start out and horse racing is
in every breath of air you breathe, Bildad shows up with a job as cook
for some outfit. Often when I think about it, his always going all
season to the races and working in the livery barn in the winter where
horses are and where men like to come and talk about horses, I wish I
was a ******. It's a foolish thing to say, but that's the way I am
about being around horses, just crazy. I can't help it.

Well, I must tell you about what we did and let you in on what I'm
talking about. Four of us boys from Beckersville, all whites and sons
of men who live in Beckersville regular, made up our minds we were
going to the races, not just to Lexington or Louisville, I don't mean,
but to the big eastern track we were always hearing our Beckersville
men talk about, to Saratoga. We were all pretty young then. I was just
turned fifteen and I was the oldest of the four. It was my scheme.

I admit that and I talked the others into trying it. There was Hanley
Turner and Henry Rieback and Tom Tumberton and myself. I had thirty-
seven dollars I had earned during the winter working nights and
Saturdays in Enoch Myer's grocery. Henry Rieback had eleven dollars and
the others, Hanley and Tom had only a dollar or two each. We fixed it
all up and laid low until the Kentucky spring meetings were over and
some of our men, the sportiest ones, the ones we envied the most, had
cut out--then we cut out too.

I won't tell you the trouble we had beating our way on freights and
all. We went through Cleveland and Buffalo and other cities and saw
Niagara Falls. We bought things there, souvenirs and spoons and cards
and shells with pictures of the falls on them for our sisters and
mothers, but thought we had better not send any of the things home. We
didn't want to put the folks on our trail and maybe be nabbed.

We got into Saratoga as I said at night and went to the track. Bildad
fed us up. He showed us a place to sleep in hay over a shed and
promised to keep still. ******s are all right about things like that.
They won't squeal on you. Often a white man you might meet, when you
had run away from home like that, might appear to be all right and give
you a quarter or a half dollar or something, and then go right and give
you away. White men will do that, but not a ******. You can trust them.
They are squarer with kids. I don't know why.

At the Saratoga meeting that year there were a lot of men from home.
Dave Williams and Arthur Mulford and Jerry Myers and others. Then there
was a lot from Louisville and Lexington Henry Rieback knew but I
didn't. They were professional gamblers and Henry Rieback's father is
one too. He is what is called a sheet writer and goes away most of the
year to tracks. In the winter when he is home in Beckersville he don't
stay there much but goes away to cities and deals faro. He is a nice
man and generous, is always sending Henry presents, a bicycle and a
gold watch and a boy scout suit of clothes and things like that.

My own father is a lawyer. He's all right, but don't make much money
and can't buy me things and anyway I'm getting so old now I don't
expect it. He never said nothing to me against Henry, but Hanley Turner
and Tom Tumberton's fathers did. They said to their boys that money so
come by is no good and they didn't want their boys brought up to hear
gamblers' talk and be thinking about such things and maybe embrace
them.

That's all right and I guess the men know what they are talking about,
but I don't see what it's got to do with Henry or with horses either.
That's what I'm writing this story about. I'm puzzled. I'm getting to
be a man and want to think straight and be O. K., and there's something
I saw at the race meeting at the eastern track I can't figure out.

I can't help it, I'm crazy about thoroughbred horses. I've always been
that way. When I was ten years old and saw I was growing to be big and
couldn't be a rider I was so sorry I nearly died. Harry Hellinfinger in
Beckersville, whose father is Postmaster, is grown up and too lazy to
work, but likes to stand around in the street and get up jokes on boys
like sending them to a hardware store for a gimlet to bore square holes
and other jokes like that. He played one on me. He told me that if I
would eat a half a cigar I would be stunted and not grow any more and
maybe could be a rider. I did it. When father wasn't looking I took a
cigar out of his pocket and gagged it down some way. It made me awful
sick and the doctor had to be sent for, and then it did no good. I kept
right on growing. It was a joke. When I told what I had done and why
most fathers would have whipped me but mine didn't.

Well, I didn't get stunted and didn't die. It serves Harry Hellinfinger
right. Then I made up my mind I would like to be a stable boy, but had
to give that up too. Mostly ******s do that work and I knew father
wouldn't let me go into it. No use to ask him.

If you've never been crazy about thoroughbreds it's because you've
never been around where they are much and don't know any better.
They're beautiful. There isn't anything so lovely and clean and full of
spunk and honest and everything as some race horses. On the big horse
farms that are all around our town Beckersville there are tracks and
the horses run in the early morning. More than a thousand times I've
got out of bed before daylight and walked two or three miles to the
tracks. Mother wouldn't of let me go but father always says, "Let him
alone." So I got some bread out of the bread box and some butter and
jam, gobbled it and lit out.

At the tracks you sit on the fence with men, whites and ******s, and
they chew tobacco and talk, and then the colts are brought out. It's
early and the grass is covered with shiny dew and in another field a
man is plowing and they are frying things in a shed where the track
******s sleep, and you know how a ****** can giggle and laugh and say
things that make you laugh. A white man can't do it and some ******s
can't but a track ****** can every time.

And so the colts are brought out and some are just galloped by stable
boys, but almost every morning on a big track owned by a rich man who
lives maybe in New York, there are always, nearly every morning, a few
colts and some of the old race horses and geldings and mares that are
cut loose.

It brings a lump up into my throat when a horse runs. I don't mean all
horses but some. I can pick them nearly every time. It's in my blood
like in the blood of race track ******s and trainers. Even when they
just go slop-jogging along with a little ****** on their backs I can
tell a winner. If my throat hurts and it's hard for me to swallow,
that's him. He'll run like Sam Hill when you let him out. If he don't
win every time it'll be a wonder and because they've got him in a
pocket behind another or he was pulled or got off bad at the post or
something. If I wanted to be a gambler like Henry Rieback's father I
could get rich. I know I could and Henry says so too. All I would have
to do is to wait 'til that hurt comes when I see a horse and then bet
every cent. That's what I would do if I wanted to be a gambler, but I
don't.

When you're at the tracks in the morning--not the race tracks but the
training tracks around Beckersville--you don't see a horse, the kind
I've been talking about, very often, but it's nice anyway. Any
thoroughbred, that is sired right and out of a good mare and trained by
a man that knows how, can run. If he couldn't what would he be there
for and not pulling a plow?

Well, out of the stables they come and the boys are on their backs and
it's lovely to be there. You hunch down on top of the fence and itch
inside you. Over in the sheds the ******s giggle and sing. Bacon is
being fried and coffee made. Everything smells lovely. Nothing smells
better than coffee and manure and horses and ******s and bacon frying
and pipes being smoked out of doors on a morning like that. It just
gets you, that's what it does.

But about Saratoga. We was there six days and not a soul from home seen
us and everything came off just as we wanted it to, fine weather and
horses and races and all. We beat our way home and Bildad gave us a
basket with fried chicken and bread and other eatables in, and I had
eighteen dollars when we got back to Beckersville. Mother jawed and
cried but Pop didn't say much. I told everything we done except one
thing. I did and saw that alone. That's what I'm writing about. It got
me upset. I think about it at night. Here it is.

At Saratoga we laid up nights in the hay in the shed Bildad had showed
us and ate with the ******s early and at night when the race people had
all gone away. The men from home stayed mostly in the grandstand and
betting field, and didn't come out around the places where the horses
are kept except to the paddocks just before a race when the horses are
saddled. At Saratoga they don't have paddocks under an open shed as at
Lexington and Churchill Downs and other tracks down in our country, but
saddle the horses right out in an open place under trees on a lawn as
smooth and nice as Banker Bohon's front yard here in Beckersville. It's
lovely. The horses are sweaty and nervous and shine and the men come
out and smoke cigars and look at them and the trainers are there and
the owners, and your heart thumps so you can hardly breathe.

Then the bugle blows for post and the boys that ride come running out
with their silk clothes on and you run to get a place by the fence with
the ******s.

I always am wanting to be a trainer or owner, and at the risk of being
seen and caught and sent home I went to the paddocks before every race.
The other boys didn't but I did.

We got to Saratoga on a Friday and on Wednesday the next week the big
Mullford Handicap was to be run. Middlestride was in it and Sunstreak.
The weather was fine and the track fast. I couldn't sleep the night
before.

What had happened was that both these horses are the kind it makes my
throat hurt to see. Middlestride is long and looks awkward and is a
gelding. He belongs to Joe Thompson, a little owner from home who only
has a half dozen horses. The Mullford Handicap is for a mile and
Middlestride can't untrack fast. He goes away slow and is always way
back at the half, then he begins to run and if the race is a mile and a
quarter he'll just eat up everything and get there.

Sunstreak is different. He is a stallion and nervous and belongs on the
biggest farm we've got in our country, the Van Riddle place that
belongs to Mr. Van Riddle of New York. Sunstreak is like a girl you
think about sometimes but never see. He is hard all over and lovely
too. When you look at his head you want to kiss him. He is trained by
Jerry Tillford who knows me and has been good to me lots of times, lets
me walk into a horse's stall to look at him close and other things.
There isn't anything as sweet as that horse. He stands at the post
quiet and not letting on, but he is just burning up inside. Then when
the barrier goes up he is off like his name, Sunstreak. It makes you
ache to see him. It hurts you. He just lays down and runs like a bird
dog. There can't anything I ever see run like him except Middlestride
when he gets untracked and stretches himself.

Gee! I ached to see that race and those two horses run, ached and
dreaded it too. I didn't want to see either of our horses beaten. We
had never sent a pair like that to the races before. Old men in
Beckersville said so and the ******s said so. It was a fact.

Before the race I went over to the paddocks to see. I looked a last
look at Middlestride, who isn't such a much standing in a paddock that
way, then I went to see Sunstreak.

It was his day. I knew when I see him. I forgot all about being seen
myself and walked right up. All the men from Beckersville were there
and no one noticed me except Jerry Tillford. He saw me and something
happened. I'll tell you about that.

I was standing looking at that horse and aching. In some way, I can't
tell how, I knew just how Sunstreak felt inside. He was quiet and
letting the ******s rub his legs and Mr. Van Riddle himself put the
saddle on, but he was just a raging torrent inside. He was like the
water in the river at Niagara Falls just before its goes plunk down.
That horse wasn't thinking about running. He don't have to think about
that. He was just thinking about holding himself back 'til the time for
the running came. I knew that. I could just in a way see right inside
him. He was going to do some awful running and I knew it. He wasn't
bragging or letting on much or prancing or making a fuss, but just
waiting. I knew it and Jerry Tillford his trainer knew. I looked up and
then that man and I looked into each other's eyes. Something happened
to me. I guess I loved the man as much as I did the horse because he
knew what I knew. Seemed to me there wasn't anything in the world but
that man and the horse and me. I cried and Jerry Tillford had a shine
in his eyes. Then I came away to the fence to wait for the race. The
horse was better than me, more steadier, and now I know better than
Jerry. He was the quietest and he had to do the running.

Sunstreak ran first of course and he busted the world's record for a
mile. I've seen that if I never see anything more. Everything came out
just as I expected. Middlestride got left at the post and was way back
and closed up to be second, just as I knew he would. He'll get a
world's record too some day. They can't skin the Beckersville country
on horses.

I watched the race calm because I knew what would happen. I was sure.
Hanley Turner and Henry Rieback and Tom Tumberton were all more excited
than me.

A funny thing had happened to me. I was thinking about Jerry Tillford
the trainer and how happy he was all through the race. I liked him that
afternoon even more than I ever liked my own father. I almost forgot
the horses thinking that way about him. It was because of what I had
seen in his eyes as he stood in the paddocks beside Sunstreak before
the race started. I knew he had been watching and working with
Sunstreak since the horse was a baby colt, had taught him to run and be
patient and when to let himself out and not to quit, never. I knew that
for him it was like a mother seeing her child do something brave or
wonderful. It was the first time I ever felt for a man like that.

After the race that night I cut out from Tom and Hanley and Henry. I
wanted to be by myself and I wanted to be near Jerry Tillford if I
could work it. Here is what happened.

The track in Saratoga is near the edge of town. It is all polished up
and trees around, the evergreen kind, and grass and everything painted
and nice. If you go past the track you get to a hard road made of
asphalt for automobiles, and if you go along this for a few miles there
is a road turns off to a little rummy-looking farm house set in a yard.

That night after the race I went along that road because I had seen
Jerry and some other men go that way in an automobile. I didn't expect
to find them. I walked for a ways and then sat down by a fence to
think. It was the direction they went in. I wanted to be as near Jerry
as I could. I felt close to him. Pretty soon I went up the side road--I
don't know why--and came to the rummy farm house. I was just lonesome
to see Jerry, like wanting to see your father at night when you are a
young kid. Just then an automobile came along and turned in. Jerry was
in it and Henry Rieback's father, and Arthur Bedford from home, and
Dave Williams and two other men I didn't know. They got out of the car
and went into the house, all but Henry Rieback's father who quarreled
with them and said he wouldn't go. It was only about nine o'clock, but
they were all drunk and the rummy looking farm house was a place for
bad women to stay in. That's what it was. I crept up along a fence and
looked through a window and saw.

It's what give me the fantods. I can't make it out. The women in the
house were all ugly mean-looking women, not nice to look at or be near.
They were homely too, except one who was tall and looked a little like
the gelding Middlestride, but not clean like him, but with a hard ugly
mouth. She had red hair. I saw everything plain. I got up by an old
rose bush by an open window and looked. The women had on loose dresses
and sat around in chairs. The men came in and some sat on the women's
laps. The place smelled rotten and there was rotten talk, the kind a
kid hears around a livery stable in a town like Beckersville in the
winter but don't ever expect to hear talked when there are women
around. It was rotten. A ****** wouldn't go into such a place.

I looked at Jerry Tillford. I've told you how I had been feeling about
him on account of his knowing what was going on inside of Sunstreak in
the minute before he went to the post for the race in which he made a
world's record.

Jerry bragged in that bad woman house as I know Sunstreak wouldn't
never have bragged. He said that he made that horse, that it was him
that won the race and made the record. He lied and bragged like a fool.
I never heard such silly talk.

And then, what do you suppose he did! He looked at the woman in there,
the one that was lean and hard-mouthed and looked a little like the
gelding Middlestride, but not clean like him, and his eyes began to
shine just as they did when he looked at me and at Sunstreak in the
paddocks at the track in the afternoon. I stood there by the window--
gee!--but I wished I hadn't gone away from the tracks, but had stayed
with the boys and the ******s and the horses. The tall rotten looking
woman was between us just as Sunstreak was in the paddocks in the
afternoon.

Then, all of a sudden, I began to hate that man. I wanted to scream and
rush in the room and kill him. I never had such a feeling before. I was
so mad clean through that I cried and my fists were doubled up so my
finger nails cut my hands.

And Jerry's eyes kept shining and he waved back and forth, and then he
went and kissed that woman and I crept away and went back to the tracks
and to bed and didn't sleep hardly any, and then next day I got the
other kids to start home with me and never told them anything I seen.

I been thinking about it ever since. I can't make it out. Spring has
come again and I'm nearly sixteen and go to the tracks mornings same as
always, and I see Sunstreak and Middlestride and a new colt named
Strident I'll bet will lay them all out, but no one thinks so but me
and two or three ******s.

But things are different. At the tracks the air don't taste as good or
smell as good. It's because a man like Jerry Tillford, who knows what
he does, could see a horse like Sunstreak run, and kiss a woman like
that the same day. I can't make it out. Darn him, what did he want to
do like that for? I keep thinking about it and it spoils looking at
horses and smelling things and hearing ******s laugh and everything.
Sometimes I'm so mad about it I want to fight someone. It gives me the
fantods. What did he do it for? I want to know why.

[suedon1970]

Great story Dano!:thumbsup2:

[suedon1970]

Here are some college football locks for this weekend. Home team in CAPS.

Michigan -16.5 over NORTHWESTERN
VIRGINIA -6.5 over Pittsburgh
Arizona State -15 over STANFORD
Cincinnati -13.5 over SAN DIEGO STATE

Really like the Michigan & Cincy picks:thumbup:

[buckeyefan78]

Here are some college football locks for this weekend. Home team in CAPS.

Michigan -16.5 over NORTHWESTERN
VIRGINIA -6.5 over Pittsburgh
Arizona State -15 over STANFORD
Cincinnati -13.5 over SAN DIEGO STATE

Well, I lost the Michigan game but won the other 3. Not bad.

Man, Cincy is the real deal. 50 rushing attempts last night. I'm on the Brian Kelly bandwagon.

I'll get more picks up later this week.

[buckeyefan78]

3-1 last week. Here are some locks for this Saturday...

Cincinnati +3 over Rutgers
Indiana -12 over Minnesota
South Florida -16 over Florida Atlantic
Ohio State -6.5 over Purdue (God help me for putting it in print)

[suedon1970]

3-1 last week. Here are some locks for this Saturday...

Cincinnati +3 over Rutgers
Indiana -12 over Minnesota
South Florida -16 over Florida Atlantic
Ohio State -6.5 over Purdue (God help me for putting it in print)

wow! 3-1 again!!! Nice picks Buck!!!:thumbsup2:

[buckeyefan78]

wow! 3-1 again!!! Nice picks Buck!!!:thumbsup2:

6-2 in two weeks.

I think I may have found my calling. Screw the little ones! :P

Here we go...

4 more locks:

Michigan -6 over Purdue
Illinois -3.5 over Iowa
LSU -9.5 over Kentucky
Akron -10 over Temple

I'm scared. I couldn't find any games I felt strongly about. This could be a disaster.

[suedon1970]

6-2 in two weeks.

I think I may have found my calling. Screw the little ones! :P

Here we go...

4 more locks:

Michigan -6 over Purdue
Illinois -3.5 over Iowa
LSU -9.5 over Kentucky
Akron -10 over Temple

I'm scared. I couldn't find any games I felt strongly about. This could be a disaster.

I like them all - In fact if you don't mind, I think I'll use 3 of them for a weekly bet I have with a co-worker.....:)

[buckeyefan78]

I like them all - In fact if you don't mind, I think I'll use 3 of them for a weekly bet I have with a co-worker.....:)

Depends.

What's my cut?

:D

A guy named Fat Tony (who is actually really skinny) will be by your office on Mondays to pick up my share.

:P

[suedon1970]

A guy named Fat Tony (who is actually really skinny) will be by your office on Mondays to pick up my share.

:P

Yikes!!!!:eek:

What's the vig?:D

[buckeyefan78]

Yikes!!!!:eek:

What's the vig?:D

I thought 10% was standard.

You tell me. I'm not the one with a shrine to Bugsy Siegel in my house.

:lol:

[suedon1970]

I thought 10% was standard.

You tell me. I'm not the one with a shrine to Bugsy Siegel in my house.

:lol:

^^^^post of the day.....:thumbsup2:

[buckeyefan78]

Michigan -6 over Purdue
Illinois -3.5 over Iowa
LSU -9.5 over Kentucky
Akron -10 over Temple

1-3 here.

OUCH!

OVERALL: 7-5

Sorry Sue. :(

I'm gonna come thru this week though. I got 6 locks for ya.

L'Ville -3 over UConn
Northwestern -8 over Eastern Michigan
Penn State -8 over Indiana
Notre Dame +20 over USC
Michigan State +17 over Ohio State
Michigan -3 over Illinois

Ok, that should get me back on track. Don't lose faith. You promised to take me to Vegas.

http://www.br-online.de/umwelt-gesundheit/artikel/0507/27-autismus/foto/autismus-rainman-dpa.jpg

We just have to stop by a K-Mart in Cincinnati so I can pick up some underwear.

[suedon1970]

1-3 here.

OUCH!

OVERALL: 7-5

Sorry Sue. :(

I'm gonna come thru this week though. I got 6 locks for ya.

L'Ville -3 over UConn
Northwestern -8 over Eastern Michigan
Penn State -8 over Indiana
Notre Dame +20 over USC
Michigan State +17 over Ohio State
Michigan -3 over Illinois

Ok, that should get me back on track. Don't lose faith. You promised to take me to Vegas.

http://www.br-online.de/umwelt-gesundheit/artikel/0507/27-autismus/foto/autismus-rainman-dpa.jpg

We just have to stop by a K-Mart in Cincinnati so I can pick up some underwear.

:lol::lol: You are too funny, Buck.....

I only used two of your picks (Michigan & Illinois) plus my co-worker took LSU, so I won that bet!!:thumbsup2:


Again, I like your picks. :thumbup:

[themush]

Loaded up on the under in the Bucs game. 37.5 between Tennessee and Tampa? Lock.

[suedon1970]

Loaded up on the under in the Bucs game. 37.5 between Tennessee and Tampa? Lock.

:lol: Yeah, that was a lock, wasn't it?

[themush]

:lol: Yeah, that was a lock, wasn't it?

Hell, I would have bet it at 17.5. :lol:

[buckeyefan78]

:lol::lol: You are too funny, Buck.....

I only used two of your picks (Michigan & Illinois) plus my co-worker took LSU, so I won that bet!!:thumbsup2:


Again, I like your picks. :thumbup:

I'm glad everything worked out.

Of my six picks this week I say Michigan-Illinois and L'Ville-UConn are the strongest.

And when can I expect my cut? :P

[suedon1970]

I'm glad everything worked out.

Of my six picks this week I say Michigan-Illinois and L'Ville-UConn are the strongest.

And when can I expect my cut? :P

well, 10% of $0 is $0, right??? We didn't exchange money, since we were both 1-2 on our picks.....sorry...:thumbdown:

But I do plan on using your picks for some illegal online betting later this week....:thumbsup2:

[boston_aloha]

Just curious if anyone has bet on the Patriots this season? They've covered every game thus far. I'm pretty sure they've covered the O/U's (overs) too.

[suedon1970]

Just curious if anyone has bet on the Patriots this season? They've covered every game thus far. I'm pretty sure they've covered the O/U's (overs) too.

Not yet, but I am staying away from this weekend's game vs Miami...too much chalk...

[suedon1970]

Got 2 units on Cleveland to close it out tonight! +111:thumbsup2:

(Sorry Steve!!!:o)


C.C. hasn't had a great postseason, but he will come through for the Tribe tonight.....

[themush]

I took Tennessee -1.5 for some reason.

[buckeyefan78]

L'Ville -3 over UConn
Northwestern -8 over Eastern Michigan
Penn State -8 over Indiana
Notre Dame +20 over USC
Michigan State +17 over Ohio State
Michigan -3 over Illinois

Went 3-3 here. So no harm no foul.

[boston_aloha]

Got 2 units on Cleveland to close it out tonight! +111:thumbsup2:

(Sorry Steve!!!:o)


C.C. hasn't had a great postseason, but he will come through for the Tribe tonight.....

Bad move Sue - this one was going 7 from day 1!!
Patriots have covered every game... wow.

[themush]

Put a bill on the Rockies in 5 at 7-1. I figure what the hell?

[suedon1970]

Put a bill on the Rockies in 5 at 7-1. I figure what the hell?

Locked in at only 6-1.....but I'm in!

Good luck to us!!!:thumbsup2:

[suedon1970]

Bad move Sue - this one was going 7 from day 1!!
Patriots have covered every game... wow.

Yeah, didn't work out like I thought...:thumbdown:

[themush]

Locked in at only 6-1.....but I'm in!

Good luck to us!!!:thumbsup2:

With my luck Sue... it's a lock. :cool:

[suedon1970]

What does everyone think about the over on the Pats/Colts game? It's at 56.5 points

I was thinking about hitting it hard:thumbup:

[themush]

Go low Sue.

[suedon1970]

Go low Sue.

You think it will go under? I was thinking that it will be a shoot-out, last team to score wins kinda game.

[themush]

Believe me the Pats don't want to get in a shootout with the Colts.

[themush]

Go low Sue

It's like I'm Nostradamus. :thumbsup2:

$200 richer thank you.

[themush]

Sue please, please, please, tell me you took the Eagles and 25 points lastnight.

If there ever was a lock that was it.

[suedon1970]

Sue please, please, please, tell me you took the Eagles and 25 points lastnight.

If there ever was a lock that was it.

No dammit, I didn't...I was a fool and took the Pats -24 1/2...:thumbdown:

I should've realized that that was too much chalk...

[themush]

Oh sue, that's way too many points for a night game in N.E. at the end of November.

[suedon1970]

Mushman: what do you think about Dallas laying 7 vs the Pack tonight?

[themush]

I like Boys at home, probably could go either way with the spread. If I had to bet I'd take the under @ 52.

[themush]

Took the over in the Louisville game.

[suedon1970]

Took the over in the Louisville game.

Was it a winner? Didn't see the number...

I did take Dallas & the points & won $20.00 from a co-worker....:thumbup:

[themush]

Was it a winner? Didn't see the number...


Yeah the number was 60 and they topped out at 79. Like candy from a baby.

[suedon1970]

Every Friday a co-worker & I each pick three college games against the spread & play each other's bookie. These are my picks for the weekend:

Mizzou +3
Boston College + 4 1/2
Navy -14
Arizona State -7
Troy -15 1/2
New Mex St +12 1/2

:thumbsup2:

[themush]

Every Friday a co-worker & I each pick three college games against the spread & play each other's bookie. These are my picks for the weekend:

Mizzou +3
Boston College + 4 1/2
Navy -14
Arizona State -7
Troy -15 1/2
New Mex St +12 1/2

:thumbsup2:

Lock. Put me down for 50.

[buckeyefan78]

Every Friday a co-worker & I each pick three college games against the spread & play each other's bookie. These are my picks for the weekend:

Mizzou +3
Boston College + 4 1/2
Navy -14
Arizona State -7
Troy -15 1/2
New Mex St +12 1/2

:thumbsup2:

The only one I like is Troy -15.5

[suedon1970]

Lock. Put me down for 50.

Your alma mater is the best of the Sunbelt (not really saying much;)) They should easily beat FAU.....

[themush]

Troy desperately needs to move to a better conference.

[suedon1970]

Troy desperately needs to move to a better conference.

How about Conference USA?

The only one I like is Troy -15.5

Yeah, that one really screamed out at me from the sportspage, saying "Pick me!!!" ;)

[buckeyefan78]

Troy is probably ready for C-USA. A C-USA team would have to move into the Big East to keep the league at 12 though.

Navy may cover. Army stinks but the Middies are down in comparison to recent years. Then again, they beat ND!

[suedon1970]

wow - 2-4.....:thumbdown:

Darn those Trojans....:mad:

[themush]

F'ing Troy. At home and should have blown those boys out.

I love the over in the Pats game tonight though.

[davematthews3]

No way mush. Not with the wind the way it is this will be a low scoring game.

[themush]

Bad weather ='s turnovers.

[davematthews3]

I put 50 on the under.

[themush]

You owe me 50. Come off my chips beoch!

[davematthews3]

Good Call mush. I did win a hundred for a grand total of plus 50 by taking the points. so it worked out.

[suedon1970]

Taking the Pacers + 6.5 vs the Suns.....

[themush]

ick NBA. I couldn't tell you who's in first in any division.

[buckeyefan78]

Taking the Pacers + 6.5 vs the Suns.....

Bettin' on pro basketball is one step away from puttin' a c-note down on how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

I hope you know that. :P

[Marc]

I don't know where you all go for this, but click the banner at the top and try our sponsor; they're good guys (then again, I am biased). :D No, seriously, a signup really supports the site and helps me pay the bills to keep this site up for you all.

[buckeyefan78]

I don't know where you all go for this, but click the banner at the top and try our sponsor; they're good guys (then again, I am biased). :D No, seriously, a signup really supports the site and helps me pay the bills to keep this site up for you all.

I'm only allowed to push certain buttons on my computer that have been verified by those with more knowledge than me or else I'd check it out.

Mostly the letters, "backspace" and "enter" are what I'm allowed to push.

There's a button called "Insert" on my keypad.

I dare not push that one. I've never even asked about it before.

[suedon1970]

Bettin' on pro basketball is one step away from puttin' a c-note down on how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

I hope you know that. :P

Score: Suns 121 - Pacers - 117

Cha-ching!!!!:thumbsup2:

I know, I know, bettors refer to the NBA as the "No Bank Account" league, but I have had way more success betting those games than the NFL....

[suedon1970]

I don't know where you all go for this, but click the banner at the top and try our sponsor; they're good guys (then again, I am biased). :D No, seriously, a signup really supports the site and helps me pay the bills to keep this site up for you all.

Allstar.com doesn't take credit cards (most of them don't anymore, thanks to Bill Frist:thumbdown:) so I play with what I have in several accounts.

well, I was wrong - they take my debit card - opened an account the other day! WOOHOO!!!

[suedon1970]

Okay guys, trust me on this one: Take your entire bankroll and bet the Montreal Canadiens money line tonight vs the Lightning...:thumbsup2:

[themush]

Okay guys, trust me on this one: Take your entire bankroll and bet the Montreal Canadiens money line tonight vs the Lightning...:thumbsup2:

Dammit sue, I lost my houses, cars, my old lady left me and took my dog, thanks a lot!!!!:P

[suedon1970]

Dammit sue, I lost my houses, cars, my old lady left me and took my dog, thanks a lot!!!!:P

Me too - wanna share a tent?????:lol::lol:

Damn the Bolts!!! - they were supposed to lose on the road after a game the night before.......

[Tarkus]

Today 12:35 - Addictions thread

We joke on here about how much I like to gamble, but I am far from addicted to it.


Today 3:40

Me too - wanna share a tent?????:lol::lol:

Damn the Bolts!!! - they were supposed to lose on the road after a game the night before.......

Your presence is requested back in the Addictions thread for thoughts on denial, Sue...:D

[suedon1970]

Today 12:35 - Addictions thread



Today 3:40



Your presence is requested back in the Addictions thread for thoughts on denial, Sue...:D

Uhhhhhh.......yes, sir........:o

[suedon1970]

Okay.....here's my 5* Plays of the NCAA FB Season....

Ohio State (+170) over LSU - 3 Units

Ohio State (+4) - 4 Units


Okay, I hate OSU, everyone knows that, but as an objective observer with no gun in the fight, I see them redeeming themselves in this game from the embarassing debacle of last year. This season they have shown they can travel to a hostile stadium (Penn State) and win big, and shut up the home crowd in the process. No doubt, OSU will be bringing a bunch of fans, but this will be for all intents & purposes a home game for the Tigers. If they can take the LSU fans out of it, they have a great chance. OSU has the better defense plus if they can dominate the offensive line, allowing Wells to run, they will win.

Personally, I would love nothing more than to see them lose by the same margin as last year's game;) , but I'm not dellusional. Coach Sweater Vest will have his team better prepared this year.....



GLTA

[themush]

Against my better judgment I've taken sue's advice and put a bill on the Nuts.

[suedon1970]

Against my better judgment I've taken sue's advice and put a bill on the Nuts.

WHOOPS!!!

Geez Mush, don't you know by now NOT to follow my advice!!!!!:lol:

[themush]

Don't worry it won't happen again.:P

[suedon1970]

Don't worry it won't happen again.:P

:lol::lol:

Smart man!!!:D

[themush]

Sorry I blacked out for a second. That's the first time a woman called me smart.

[davematthews3]

i have 20 bucks on each of the 4 playoff games this weekend.
I couldn't pick Giants Cowboys based on the line I had no feel so I took the over 46.5
Indy -8.5
Jacksonville +13
Seattle +8

[suedon1970]

i have 20 bucks on each of the 4 playoff games this weekend.
I couldn't pick Giants Cowboys based on the line I had no feel so I took the over 46.5
Indy -8.5
Jacksonville +13
Seattle +8

Man Dave, that didn't turn out well, did it?

I took Jax +14 & the Giants +9 in a parlay.....

CHA-CHING!!!!!:thumbsup2:

[suedon1970]

Okay, anyone b