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illallowit
12-14-2006, 01:00 PM
The man who wrote the report to Pres. Bush stating that Iraq had WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destrution), it turns out is dyslexic. What he meant to write in the report was that Iraq had MWD's (Military Working Dogs). He apologizes for the mistake and hopes it hasn't caused too much trouble.
BigBuddhaPup
12-14-2006, 06:54 PM
Being a former military working dog... I feel sympathy for the pups in the military...

I think WMD describes GW... With Mental Damage...
Ravana
12-16-2006, 02:31 AM
Or maybe Cheney? "Weapons that Miss Destroy"?
bama4256
12-16-2006, 10:31 AM
I haven't seen any military dogs over there in the news.:lol:
illallowit
12-18-2006, 12:06 PM
lol Ravana. That's classic.
IntheNet
12-18-2006, 12:22 PM
I am wondering if Bush Derangement Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syndrome) is addictive? It certainly seems like more and more lefty liberals are suffering from it.
BigBuddhaPup
12-18-2006, 02:43 PM
Oh, no... the liberals are coming! the liberals are coming!

Liberal - objective, free thinking, progressive...

You bet, I am a liberal.

But, surprise, surprise.. I am not a democrat...

Did I mess up your stereotype? The neat compartmentizing of everyone? How about talking to the issue instead of going after the posters? Are you Tony Snow?
Ellis
12-18-2006, 02:59 PM
What made me laugh were the commercials the Republicans aired saying that they ended slavery. Ok, that was 176 years ago, kudos for that.

But let's fast forward to 30-40 years ago. Who were the ones fighting for civil rights? Oh wait, it was Democrats like Bobby and John Kennedy who fought the hardest for civil rights. Why didn't they mention that in those political ads?
BigBuddhaPup
12-18-2006, 03:06 PM
Ellis,

The party of Lincoln isn't the party of Lincoln...just in historical sense only...that is funny...

I wonder when Republicans will get around to giving equal rights to homosexuals in America? Or want to give reproductive rights to women? Or habeus corpus?... but, hey, GW did finally make it to one NAACP meeting *L* Civil rights *L*...

It would be nice to see the Democrats to step up to the plate like John/Bobby Kennedy did in the 60's... instead of watching the polls, they need to be ahead of the polls, it will come to them...*see GW**L*...
IntheNet
12-18-2006, 03:14 PM
... it was Democrats like Bobby and John Kennedy who fought the hardest for civil rights....

How many African Americans live on Nantucket Sound near the Kennedy compound? You see any low income housing in all of Nantucket? It is easy to say you are fighting for civil rights and quite another to actually do it. The Kennedies at best gave token accord to minorities during the Civil Rights era; oh they still hire them to cater their holiday beach parties at Camelot and work as chaffeurs but civil rights? C'mon... How many "civil rights" did Edward Kennedy give Mary Jo Kopechne?

How many minorities work for Ed Kennedy in his Senate office?
bama4256
12-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Yeah like we really don't have any intelligence.
BigBuddhaPup
12-18-2006, 03:28 PM
InTheNet,

Those tax cuts must have not helped them enough...
BigBuddhaPup
12-18-2006, 03:30 PM
He said Bobby/JFK...not Edward "Ted" Kennedy... hmm, Civil Rights Act... I remember that...
Ellis
12-18-2006, 03:37 PM
How many African Americans live on Nantucket Sound near the Kennedy compound? You see any low income housing in all of Nantucket? It is easy to say you are fighting for civil rights and quite another to actually do it. The Kennedies at best gave token accord to minorities during the Civil Rights era; oh they still hire them to cater their holiday beach parties at Camelot and work as chaffeurs but civil rights? C'mon... How many "civil rights" did Edward Kennedy give Mary Jo Kopechne?

How many minorities work for Ed Kennedy in his Senate office?

JFK proposed what would become the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You are right, he didn't fight for civil rights at all.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88-352, 78 Stat. 241, July 2, 1964) was landmark legislation in the United States that outlawed, under certain circumstances, discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. Originally conceived to protect the rights of Black people, the bill was amended prior to passage to protect the civil rights of everyone, and explicitly included women for the first time.

The Act transformed Southern society overnight, and had a long-term impact on the whole country. It prohibited discrimination in public facilities, in government, and in employment. The "Jim Crow" laws in the South were abolished, and it became illegal to compel segregation of the 'races' in schools, housing, or hiring. Enforcement powers were initially weak, but they grew over the years, and later programs (such as affirmative action) were made possible by the Act.
Ellis
12-18-2006, 03:38 PM
He said Bobby/JFK...not Edward "Ted" Kennedy... hmm, Civil Rights Act... I remember that...

Exactly. Thank you. You beat me to it :D
IntheNet
12-18-2006, 04:02 PM
JFK proposed what would become the Civil Rights Act of 1964...

Yeah... he also proposed a lot of other spending bills too... my initial post stands... he doesn't get to take credit for the civil rights progress that took place in the 60s unless he actually did something about it... how many times did JFK go to Harlem or Biloxi and speak with low income minorities? How many minorities did JFK appoint to his cabinent?

You know that George Bush has more minorities working for him than all the Kennedy clan combined?
Ellis
12-18-2006, 04:13 PM
During his years as a senator, Bobby Kennedy also helped to start a successful redevelopment project in poverty-stricken Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn in New York City, visited the Mississippi Delta as a member of the Senate committee reviewing the effectiveness of 'War on Poverty' programs and, reversing his prior stance, called for a halt in further escalation of the Vietnam War.

As Senator, Robert endeared himself to African Americans, and other minorities such as Native Americans and immigrant groups. He spoke forcefully in favor of what he called the "disaffected," the impoverished, and "the excluded," thereby aligning himself with leaders of the civil rights struggle and social justice campaigners, leading the Democratic party in a pursuit of a more aggressive agenda to eliminate perceived discrimination on all levels. Kennedy supported busing, integration of all public facilities, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and anti-poverty social programs to increase education, offer opportunities for employment, and provide health care for African-Americans.



I just don't understand your argument against Bobby and John Kennedy. You brought up Ted Kennedy, but I never mentioned him. Bush may have more minorities in his cabinet member, but I still don't see how that proves that Bobby and John Kennedy didn't fight for civil rights and that the democrats weren't the ones who fought the hardest for civil rights.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/NR/rdonlyres/CD170FCB-4BDD-4A20-81D7-33A3591FA808/24362/CD170FCB4BDD4A2081D733A3591FA8093.jpg
illallowit
12-18-2006, 05:10 PM
Oops. My bad. I didn't mean to start a debate...lol.
BigBuddhaPup
12-18-2006, 05:42 PM
InTheNet,

Actually JFK proposed tax cuts, but the escalation of the Vietnam War stopped them...
Ravana
12-21-2006, 02:41 AM
Actually JFK proposed tax cuts, but the escalation of the Vietnam War stopped them...

Escalation for which he was responsible....
HibachiDG
12-21-2006, 03:11 AM
That Robert Kennedy did not fight hard for civil rights and against discrimination is one of the silliest things I have ever read. If you're simply talking about comparing democrats to republicans in terms of civil rights activism, hell, I do not care as I would think it silly to compare something like that. But, to say RFK didn't fight for civil rights, that seems to me to be an exercise in futility.
BigBuddhaPup
12-21-2006, 10:54 AM
Escalation for which he was responsible....

Yep, him, then LBJ...
Jaguar Rick
12-21-2006, 05:57 PM
Yeah... he also proposed a lot of other spending bills too... my initial post stands... he doesn't get to take credit for the civil rights progress that took place in the 60s unless he actually did something about it... how many times did JFK go to Harlem or Biloxi and speak with low income minorities? How many minorities did JFK appoint to his cabinent?

You know that George Bush has more minorities working for him than all the Kennedy clan combined?

IntheNet, You always bring up spending by the Dems or Liberals. How about the billions spent each month in Iraq? I haven't seen you mention that. Are you against any spending that isn't military? Would you prefer to let our elderly die because the can't afford drugs? Shouldn't spending on our needs take prescedence over spending for death and destruction?
Ravana
12-22-2006, 04:30 AM
Yep, him, then LBJ...

Yeah, but Kennedy wasn't forced to raise taxes because of LBJ's escalation....:D
BigBuddhaPup
12-22-2006, 07:22 AM
Yeah, but Kennedy wasn't forced to raise taxes because of LBJ's escalation....:D

Ravana,

JFK escalated the war as well...taxes were raised...LBJ escalated the war...taxes were raised...


GW is going to escalate the war...taxes will not be raised, but the debt sure will be once again...:thumbdown:
Jaguar Rick
12-29-2006, 04:03 PM
I think it is interesting now that President Ford has died, a recording made and to be released only after his death, Ford said he believed Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld made a big mistake by going to war in Iraq. The first Bush was quoted as saying, "I sure hope they find WMD". They didn't. It's unanimous, all four past presidents, 2 repubs, 2 dems, question the war.
BigBuddhaPup
12-30-2006, 06:56 AM
I think it is interesting now that President Ford has died, a recording made and to be released only after his death, Ford said he believed Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld made a big mistake by going to war in Iraq. The first Bush was quoted as saying, "I sure hope they find WMD". They didn't. It's unanimous, all three past presidents, 2 repubs, 2 dems, question the war.

Jaguar Rick,

We don't need any stinkin' facts or expert opinions... We stay the course.... Mission Accomplished....now we have to figure out what the mission is....

Maybe we should start a new thread on what does WMD stand for?

Without Media Damnation..
Withering Mysterious Destination...
Why Military Deployment...
Jaguar Rick
12-30-2006, 09:13 AM
Jaguar Rick,

We don't need any stinkin' facts or expert opinions... We stay the course.... Mission Accomplished....now we have to figure out what the mission is....

Maybe we should start a new thread on what does WMD stand for?

Without Media Damnation..
Withering Mysterious Destination...
Why Military Deployment...

BBP, How about W's Misguided Decision?