Iran Hostage Crisis 2007 Truth

[DETMURDS]

Read it here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=447110&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490

[catman]

No real surprise here. People will say what they are asked when in the cross-hairs of automatic weapons. This is similar to a contract being signed under duress. The contract is void, as it was not legally obtained.

[bama4256]

I think they should be shot for cowardice.:thumbup:

[catman]

Who, the Iranians or Brits?

[DETMURDS]

I think he is talking about the British Sailors, and Marines?

Iran needs to pay for this act of war.

[IntheNet]

I was genuinely surprised to see the Brit sailors shaking hands with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the conclusion of their imprisonment; it would have been nice to see one brave sailor give him the finger, piss on his shoe, or something less offensive that didn't resemble cowardice. I suppose, however, that they all desired release and all forgot their military training.

The pirate Ahmadinejad milked this affair for its publicity; this is the second time he has held westerners hostage. I await news of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's death and will relish and celebrate the day this terrorist is dead.

[Montrovant]

IntheNet, I'm curious, are you/have you been a soldier? I don't remember if you've ever said in the past.

Also, have you ever been a PoW? Or, since we are not actually at war with Iran, have you ever been a prisoner of any kind?

You spend a lot of time on these boards painting other people as cowards, or traitors, and I wonder if you have the experience to give your words at least some real-world basis in this instance.

You're very harsh in your criticism, what ever happened to 'judge not'?

[catman]

Like I said, it is very understandable that the Brits said some "interesting" things on camera -- with high-powered weapons trained on them. The desire to remain alive supersedes most anything else in situations of this nature.
I do not fault them for not wishing to die on camera.

[bama4256]

Even the girl said in an interview she felt like a traitor. She was along with her comrades. Soldiers are not to act that way while captives.

[IntheNet]

You're very harsh in your criticism, what ever happened to 'judge not'?It is typical of the left to blame other for problems; in this case I express an opinion on the Brit solidier conduct and in response you question my patriotism. I believe what you are doing is "par for the course" in the liberal leftist protocol.

Now to dispense with your questions at hand. Yes I have been in the military and done my tour of duty. No I have not ever been held as a hostage. Neither of those two trivia issues has anything to do with this issue. As I mentioned, the Brit soldiers exhibited some mighty strange behavior, in my opinion. As a hostage I would think shaking the hand of your detainer, in public, as a soldier, might be something one would not do. I know I would have reservations. Were they forced? Possibly, but as the facts dribble out these Brit Sailors seem to now be singing canaries in the UK media about the harshness of their detention, yet all smiles in front of the pirate Ahmadinejad. Their Commanding Officer must have real issues with these sailors.

In order to discuss this Hostage issue, one has to have a point of view; your recommendation of "judge not" is noted for posterity and I wait with patience to see if your advise is equally dispensed to those of varing opinion on this board, or simply my opinion.

[Montrovant]

It is typical of the left to blame other for problems; in this case I express an opinion on the Brit solidier conduct and in response you question my patriotism. I believe what you are doing is "par for the course" in the liberal leftist protocol.

Now to dispense with your questions at hand. Yes I have been in the military and done my tour of duty. No I have not ever been held as a hostage. Neither of those two trivia issues has anything to do with this issue. As I mentioned, the Brit soldiers exhibited some mighty strange behavior, in my opinion. As a hostage I would think shaking the hand of your detainer, in public, as a soldier, might be something one would not do. I know I would have reservations. Were they forced? Possibly, but as the facts dribble out these Brit Sailors seem to now be singing canaries in the UK media about the harshness of their detention, yet all smiles in front of the pirate Ahmadinejad. Their Commanding Officer must have real issues with these sailors.

In order to discuss this Hostage issue, one has to have a point of view; your recommendation of "judge not" is noted for posterity and I wait with patience to see if your advise is equally dispensed to those of varing opinion on this board, or simply my opinion.

You can try and turn this into something about 'the left' if you want to. I am neither part of this far left you are constantly blaming for things nor did I question your patriotism that I can see.

What I did was try and find out if you've ever been in a similar situation as the people you called cowards.

The reason I specifically use judge not with you, is that you have many times professed your Christian faith. You have numerous times called people cowards, or traitors. This seems to go against 'Judge not, that you be not judged', IMO, because you use these terms in situations they do not neccessarily seem warranted.

If you think I point out this kind of behavior more toward you than other posters here, it's because I do. You are the most consistantly degrading and judgemental poster I have seen here. I have argued with others about their posts, but have simply had more reason to do so with yours.

[IntheNet]

The reason I specifically use judge not with you, is that you have many times professed your Christian faith. You have numerous times called people cowards, or traitors. This seems to go against 'Judge not, that you be not judged'... The instances used are appropriate. Perhaps you should look into the military law governing capture with regard to the Brit sailors. It is not me alone that is questioning their behavior but their entire nation. However, if you think the limits of this Discussion Board preclude judgment, let me know.

If you think I point out this kind of behavior more toward you than other posters here, it's because I do. You are the most consistantly degrading and judgemental poster I have seen here. When do I get my consistency points?

[Montrovant]

The instances used are appropriate. Perhaps you should look into the military law governing capture with regard to the Brit sailors. It is not me alone that is questioning their behavior but their entire nation. However, if you think the limits of this Discussion Board preclude judgment, let me know.

When do I get my consistency points?

100 points to IntheNet! :thumbup:

I don't think this board precludes judgement, obviously. I never hinted that it does :) It's your religion which, in my admittedly incomplete understanding, tells it's adherents to attempt to reserve judgement. Or maybe it would be better to say reserve malicious judgement. That is what I read from many of your posts, an anger, hostility and hatred that are at odds with the love and forgiveness I've often been told are, along with worship of God, the basis of Christianity.