"Lord Stanley`s Mug"

[ppsprotec]

The origional Stanley Cup was donated by Lord Stanley of Preston in 1893.Captian Charles Colville,an aid to Lord Stanley,bought the cup on a trip to England.He paid ten guineas,or about $50.It was presented to the winner of the "Hockey Championship of The Dominion of Canada".PPS.

[lmanchur.]

Can I ask what the point of this thread it?... or were you just stating the facts?

To calify, it was presented to the best "amateur team in Canada.".... A few decades after, it started going to professional teams, and a few years after that, it started going to American teams.

I would like to see the Stanley Cup trustees (who have complete control over it, and NOT the NHL) present the cup to the winner of the Canadian Hockey League (CHL), as that is who it should go to -- guys who don't play for the money (although they are playing for the scouts so they can get drafted so they CAN make money playing hockey) playing the "coolest game on Earth."


One "odd" fact about the Stanley Cup and hockey. Can a football fan (Marc?) enlighten me one WHY they call all the football championships "Bowls"???... NONE of the championship trophies are in a bowl shape?... same thing with the World Cup of Hockey or the World Cup of Soccer... they don't play for a "cup"!... Hockey is the only one where the name of the championship trophy/game makes sense: the Stanley CUP.

[BTRoots]

This answer perhaps is to my question in another thread? I did ask the question a few times. If so, wrong thread, but a pretty good answer. Someone has been doing a little homework.

By the way, the CFL plays for a cup, namely, the 'Grey Cup'.

Perhaps this thread should be renamed to ... maybe, Sports Cups :D

[ppsprotec]

Sorry about that.Clicked new instead of reply.But since we are on the topic,who was the first american team to win the Stanley Cup?PPS

[lmanchur.]

Originally posted by CanFan
By the way, the CFL plays for a cup, namely, the 'Grey Cup'.

...yeah, it just Americans that play for "bowls" that are actually plates or trophies or something.

Canadians, I guess, name their sports trophies so the name makes sense with what it looks like! :)

[Wedge231]

Cmon Marc, we need your help here. Why are the football games called bowls?

[BTRoots]

ppsprotec, the answer to your question is: are your ready for this? The ... NEW YORK RANGERS!!! They won it in 1928, against the Montreal Maroons. They obviously had different players than they do today. :cool:

[lmanchur.]

Originally posted by CanFan
ppsprotec, the answer to your question is: are your ready for this? The ... NEW YORK RANGERS!!! They won it in 1928, against the Montreal Maroons.

You just completely contradicted yourself because in another thread, you said Seattle won it in 1917!

I read this thread before the other one, and my original guess was Seattle, and you just confirmed it. Thank you!

[BTRoots]

Sorry Lee, no contradiction there. Seattle was the first American team (and the last team from anywhere) to win the Cup before the formation of the NHL. The Rangers were the first NHL team to win the Cup, which is what ppsprotec asked (as I read it). How Seattle got into the pre-NHL Canadian contest, I haven't the slightest, without a bit of research. Close but no cigar on this one. :D :D

[lmanchur.]

Well... 1917?... When was the NHL formed? 1924?

...because prior to 1924, there was the NHA -- the National Hockey Assosiation. So maybe that's how they (Seattle) got to play for the Stanley Cup. I'm not sure when, exactly, the NHA was formed and when it ceased to be, but does anyone know the reason?

Well, basically, a few of the owners of clubs of the NHA didn't like the owner in Toronto, so they started their own league without him... ha ha! :D

[ppsprotec]

In March 1917,the Seattle Metropolitans and the defending champs Montreal Canadians squared off for the cup.Seattle won 3 games to 1,becoming the first american team to win the Stanley Cup. In late November of 1917,a meeting of the National Hockey Association was held in Montreal`s Windsor Hotel,attended by representatives from the Montreal Canadians,`Montreal Wanderers,Qubec Bulldogs,Ottawa Senators,and Toronto Arenas.At that meeying,representatives decided to form a new league,which would be called the National Hockey League,and the course of professional hockey in North America was changed for all time-largely because of one man. Edward J.Livingstone had been granted two Toronto franchises a few years eariler,but it seemed that Eddie Livingstone had a personality and style of operation that rubbed people the wrong way-from other owners to his own players.By the fall of 1917,it was aparent that the other owners would do anything to insure that Livingstone would not be involved with a franchise.thus,they created a new league,making sure old Eddie wasn`t part of it.The new NHL began the 1917/1918 season on December 19,1917.PPS

[Marc]

Originally posted by ppsprotec
In March 1917,the Seattle Metropolitans and the defending champs Montreal Canadians squared off for the cup.Seattle won 3 games to 1,becoming the first american team to win the Stanley Cup. In late November of 1917,a meeting of the National Hockey Association was held in Montreal`s Windsor Hotel,attended by representatives from the Montreal Canadians,`Montreal Wanderers,Qubec Bulldogs,Ottawa Senators,and Toronto Arenas.At that meeying,representatives decided to form a new league,which would be called the National Hockey League,and the course of professional hockey in North America was changed for all time-largely because of one man. Edward J.Livingstone had been granted two Toronto franchises a few years eariler,but it seemed that Eddie Livingstone had a personality and style of operation that rubbed people the wrong way-from other owners to his own players.By the fall of 1917,it was aparent that the other owners would do anything to insure that Livingstone would not be involved with a franchise.thus,they created a new league,making sure old Eddie wasn`t part of it.The new NHL began the 1917/1918 season on December 19,1917.PPS
I'm impressed! ppsprotec, you sure are a book of hockey facts! ;)

[BTRoots]

ppsprotec, you sure impressed me. Have any more such trivia?

[ppsprotec]

In 1919,fate would now intervene,causing the strangest finale ever in a Stanley Cup playoff.In game five,Seattle took an early three-goal lead,but Montreal recovered to tie the game 3-3.At 15:51 of overtime,left winger Jack McDonald beat Holmes to give the Habs the victory and tying the series at two games to two.But during the match,Montreal`s "Bad"Joe Hall left the ice,sick.Hall ended up in hospital in the throes of the influenza bug that had become epidemic in North America.A sixth game to determine the series had been scheduled,but by this time half of the players on each team were stricken with the disease.On April 5,Joe Hall died,the series was canceled,and for the first time in Stanley Cup history,no winner was declared. In case there is any confusion,game four was called a 0-0 draw,after one hour and forty minutes of overtime.PPS.

[lmanchur.]

Are you getting this out of Total Hockey or another such book!? I'm pressed, but find it hard to believe that someone could memorize all that.

Any "true" hockey fan knows why the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals was cancelled, but about the exact name of the guy that collapsed?... just a good memory, I guess.... Congrats!

[ppsprotec]

SC-Lee,a memory of that caliber is impressive,but I must admit,I always double check my facts and in doing so I usualy uncover percise,and verry interesting tidbits.Not trying to decieve anyone,but when I receive hockey trivia from anyone,I appriciate it being accurate(so as to not embarrass myself when passing it on to others).PPS.