Marty McSorley

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Marty is off to jolly old Endland to play for the London Knights (if the IIHL lets him) to play for his brother, who is coach of the team. Personally, I didn't know England had a hockey team. Anyway, will/should he be picked up by someone in the NHL this year, or is he a liability because of his 'year off'? Not that he's been idle. If Mario can return after 3 years and reach great heights, Marty should be able to reach his own heights given his work with the Kingston Frontenacs of the OHL.

[lmanchur.]

Originally posted by CanFan
Personally, I didn't know England had a hockey team.

Where was Govenor Lord Stanley from?

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England? :D Yes, Good ol' Lord Stanley was from England, but it doesn't mean he played hockey, Lee. This happened, even before my time, but for all we know, he could have been impressed with the game and with our atheletes. England was definitely after our 'colony'. I'll have to get back to you on that one. Give me 1/2 hour or so. I have to get the mutt out. :D :D

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What about McSorley? Anyone have an opinion?

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A tad more about Lord Stanley. He was indeed from England. Earl of (Something or other). He was the Governor-General, loved the outdoors, and our beautiful country. He donated the cup in 1893 to something called the Dominion Hockey Challenge, to be awarded to the best amateur team in Canada and so it was until 1917, when some team called the Seattle Metropolitans :D (I love this smilie for some reason) won it. In reality, Lord Stanley, never even watched a single game played for his Cup. He went home. Then the NHL came into being. I can't remember the date when they claimed the 'Cup', 1926 maybe?, but they have been using the Canadian Cup ever since. Can't understand why Mr. Bettman wants the Cup in so many American cities that don't care a whit about it, leaving poor old Canada 'almost' out of the picture. However, I understand why players covet it so much. I also know which American team was the first to win Stanley. Off to another thread for this one. :)

[Edited by CanFan on 02-08-2001 at 04:39 AM]

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Forget Lord Stanley. McSorley isn't going anywhere soon so it seems. IIHL won't give him licence until they meet with someone or other in March. Anyone know who they'll be meeting with? Anyone care? The McSorley/Brashear thing is a big deal in the NHL. It is definitely mega important to McSorley. It perhaps sets a precedence (in law) for the future. I'm amazed that no one is interested. This is an NHL thing, Canadian and American. Unless you guys don't want to discuss violence in the NHL.

[Marc]

What this guy did is sickening. I hope McSorley never gets to play in the NHL again.

[Edited by M. James on 02-09-2001 at 10:14 AM]

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I did agree with you. At one time. But what McSorley did is no worse than what many other players have done, but never got called up for. Hey, he put my favourite enforcer, a teddy bear in my eyes, out cold. However, I would like to believe that McSorley has learned a lesson. I would like to beleive that all NHL players have learned a lesson by this whole affair. I don't condon what he did, but he seems to be the only one paying the price. If he is to pay for the rest of his life, surely, there are more violent players out there who have never had to answer for their actions. There have been too many superior players having to give up their livlihoods to the consequenses of violence. This is the reason I started a new thread about violence in the NHL. There are many and varied views about this subject. Let's see if anyone has anything to add.

[lmanchur.]

McSorley is playing for the Grand Rapids Griffins of the International Hockey League. This is the Ottawa Senator's farm club, and the Sens could sure use him down the stretch and in the playoffs this year.

Contrary to other people here, I do hope he plays in the NHL. Many "hockey "guys -- Glen Sather and Wayne Gretzky, to name a few -- wanted to testify for him in court, but he didn't let them, because he knew what he did was wrong, and I believe that he genuinely knows that.

The guys at ESPN.com, however, must be on something. They titled an article "McSorley Suspended after IHL debut," but the article mentions NOTHING of him being suspended. I guess they must have meant "McSorley Booted after IHL debut," because the article does state that in the third period of his first game back, he was awarded a 5-minute major for fighting and a double game misconduct... I guess a "double game misconduct" must be an IHL rule or something, because I've never heard of it.... "game misconduct," sure, but what's a "double game misconduct"!?... anyways.

An interesting comeback for McSorley.... he was in the game for just 43 minutes and 19 seconds, but it looks like he's his old self, again.

Full article from ESPN.com (http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2001/0210/1076837.html)

[Edited by SC-Lee on 02-11-2001 at 09:56 AM]

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Now the IIHL won't give him a ticket to play in England before they meet with their disciplinary committe, witch doesn't meet until March. I think he sould be back in the NHL lineup, but things sure aren't going his way. Maybe he hasn't really learned anything from all the furor. His style of play seems to belong in the NHL. :D