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Marc 01-14-2008 12:00 AM

Packers vs. Giants Thread
 
The Packers are the NFC's top seed remaining and peaking at the right time with a 42-20 blowout over the Seahawks, scoring 6 touchdowns after spotting Seattle 14 points. The Giants are also peaking, with Eli Manning quickly silencing his critics. Although the Packers beat the Giants 35-13 in the Meadowlands in Week 2, these are two different teams. While the Giants are certainly better, the scary thing is the Packers are also better. Who ya got?

Montrovant 01-14-2008 06:35 AM

I expect the Giants to be a much harder victory than Seattle, but the Pack certainly look like the best of the NFC right now. With Grant and the O-line doing well in the running game, Favre doesn't have that pressure to do it himself, leading to fewer of the forced throws and picks that are almost as well known as his toughness and passion. The defense showed they can step it up after giving up those 2 early TD's against the Hawks. The Giants are playing much better than I expected, and do have a shot, but I don't think they can pull another road win out.

philabramoff 01-14-2008 09:58 AM

Maybe I'm dooming Green Bay to utter defeat this time around...
but, I'm picking Green Bay in this one.

NY will be a tough game, no doubt about it, but GB at Lambeau
in the NFC CG, the way they've been playing, and also (very
important) the team is at near full-strength, injury-wise (the
only losses right now are two D-Linemen out), while NY is
without Shockey and about half their defensive secondary,
this all looks to be coming up GB.

Personally, I'm shocked at how well this is all turning out.
Pre-season, I was figuring GB to be 8-8 at best. I never even
gave a passing thought to the idea of them being in the
Championship Game...and as the FAVORITES.

deavobadger 01-14-2008 12:08 PM

The Packers are clearly the better team coming into this one. The Giants are almost going to have to hold open tryouts to find enough DB's to stop the 4 and 5 WR sets the Packers will run all day against a very shorthanded secondary. The Packers are completely healthy, not counting their deepest position to begin with. If Ross can't play the Giants don't even have a chance. Packers 28-17

Also, it was only 6 TD's, not 7. It's not like they COMPLETELY dominated the Seahawks.

boston_aloha 01-14-2008 12:35 PM

I think the Pack win this one easy.

vandal_88 01-14-2008 01:40 PM

Al Harris and a healthy Charles Woodson are just too much for Plax and Toomer. With Jeremy Shockey out, it's a Shock (no pun intended) that the G-Men actually made it this far. I picked them to lose to the Bucs but I chose them to beat the Cowboys... I think this is where their amazing run ends... I just don't think Eli is going to be able to adjust to that cold Green Bay weather.

Green Bay wins 24-17, scoring a late 4th Quarter touchdown, while Jacobs & Grant battle it out in another freezing cold game in cheese-headville.

doublee 01-14-2008 01:55 PM

Weather won't be a big advantage to either team. The weather gets just as dicey at the Meadowlands as it does at Lambeau. The key will be whether or not the Giants can pressure Favre. Favre is still prone to bad INTs when he is constantly pressured. If the Giants can keep the heat on Favre the entire game they win otherwise the Pack wins.

The Giants offensive run has as much to do with Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs getting healthy on offense than anything else. The Giants are limiting the number of times Eli needs to step up and make a play and letting the running game dictate the tempo of the offense.

SoonerCenturion 01-14-2008 01:56 PM

Favre will give you 4 INT's a game, question is do you catch the ball or let it slide? Pac can win this game by a TD if they take care of the ball.

vandal_88 01-14-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doublee (Post 267839)
Weather won't be a big advantage to either team. The weather gets just as dicey at the Meadowlands as it does at Lambeau. The key will be whether or not the Giants can pressure Favre. Favre is still prone to bad INTs when he is constantly pressured. If the Giants can keep the heat on Favre the entire game they win otherwise the Pack wins.

The Giants offensive run has as much to do with Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs getting healthy on offense than anything else. The Giants are limiting the number of times Eli needs to step up and make a play and letting the running game dictate the tempo of the offense.

20 rushing attempts and 18 passing attempts, i'd say that's pretty even...

Jacobs and Bradshaw are going to have to combine for more than 88 yards on the ground if they want to beat Green Bay in that cold, wet weather.

I'm telling you, Bret Favre is used to playing in terrible weather conditions and Eli is not...

It's going to be an ugly scene in Green Bay... ugly game until the end...

doublee 01-14-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vandal_88 (Post 267858)
20 rushing attempts and 18 passing attempts, i'd say that's pretty even...

Jacobs and Bradshaw are going to have to combine for more than 88 yards on the ground if they want to beat Green Bay in that cold, wet weather.

I think you are missing the point. The running game has become more efficient to the point where they don't need Eli to convert 3rd and long all the time. The point is Eli only had to throw 18 times and only faced 9 third downs as opposed to Dallas' 16. You have so many more options offensively when you are converting 3rd and short as opposed to 3rd and 8 and the other team knows you are throwing the ball.

philabramoff 01-14-2008 05:13 PM

I've been listening to Mark Belling today. He's taking us back to
week two and asking us to think...

When we were watching the Packers pasting the Giants in New York,
back in week two, did any of us ever imagine that it would be these
two (most likely 8-8 teams) playing for the right to go to the Super
Bowl ???

I've been naysaying the Packers all season long, not because I
dislike Green Bay (on the contrary, they are my team), but because
I feel like they've been playing way over their heads all year round.

Still, I fall back on what my coworker said "I respect any team
with a defense."

Andrew Jones 01-16-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philabramoff (Post 267945)
I've been listening to Mark Belling today. He's taking us back to
week two and asking us to think..."

I love Mark Belling. One of the greatest radio talents around today.
Eli has played well the last two weeks because why? He was in Tampa and in Dallas, warm beautiful weather. He's not ready to overtake Favre, not now, not yet.

philabramoff 01-16-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Jones (Post 268437)
I love Mark Belling.

Glad to hear someone else is a Mark Belling listener. In fact, I'm
in my office right now logging onto WISN so I can hear him. It's
one of my few connections that help keep me back in Wisconsin
in spirit, while I continue my exile in SoCal.

Regarding my prediction for the game, I'm getting worried I've
jinxed the Packers. I've been WRONG ALL YEAR ROUND...

Philadelphia...there's no way they'll beat the Eagles in the Opener.
PACKERS WIN.
New York...okay they got lucky, they won't go 2-0. PACKERS WIN.
San Diego...they won't go 3-0 and beat the Chargers. PACKERS WIN.
Minnesota...alright 3-0, but they never win in the Metrodome.
PACKERS WIN.
Chicago...alright, 4-0. They'll take out the crappy Bears this week,
and go 5-0. PACKERS LOSE.
Washington...back down to Earth. They won't beat Redskins.
PACKERS WIN.
Denver...they won't win in Denver. PACKERS WIN.
Kansas City...they never win two straight road games out west.
PACKERS WIN.
Minnesota...Okay, they'll win easy at home. PACKERS WIN.(first
one I get right this year.)
Carolina...Another win at home. PACKERS WIN (only two right so far).
Detroit...They won't win in Detroit on Thanksgiving Day. PACKERS WIN.
Dallas...Favre never wins in Dallas. PACKERS LOSE (three right).
Oakland...Easy win at home against crap team. PACKERS WIN (four right).
St. Louis...Let down in St. Louis. PACKERS WIN.
Chicago...Okay, I can relax and enjoy this one. Pack will win this one
easy, since the Bears suck this year, and Pack gets revenge. PACKERS LOSE.
Detroit...Pack will sit down their whole team and lose it. PACKERS WIN.
Seattle...Disaster in Lambeau, as I predicted. PACKERS WIN.

I'm 4-13 picking the Packers this year, based on my emotions.
I'm wrong about the Packers most of the time, and I feel like the
Packers are going to WIN this Sunday.

I fear I've doomed the Packers to defeat due to the emotional jinx.

Dang it.:mad:

Anthony 01-17-2008 03:27 AM

The latest estimates call for a kickoff-time temperature of 4 degrees, with the possibility of intermittent light snow.

If it turns out to be anything close to that, I can't see the Pack losing.

boston_aloha 01-17-2008 09:46 AM

Packers better win... I don't know if I can take another week of Chris Berman saying "Geeeeeeeeee-men".... :thumbdown:


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