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Marc 12-29-2008 02:32 PM

Jets fire Mangini, Favre's future in doubt
 
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Favre says MRI will affect decision to play next season

ESPN.com news services

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Brett Favre will have an MRI exam Monday on his ailing right shoulder, a procedure that will help the 39-year-old quarterback decide whether he'll return for another season with the New York Jets.

Favre said he's been feeling discomfort in his rocket right arm "for quite a while," and he struggled down the stretch with nine interceptions and only two touchdowns in his last five games. He was intercepted three times in the Jets' 24-17 season-ending loss to the Miami Dolphins on Sunday.

"It hurts in the back [of the shoulder], hurts down in the biceps and, occasionally, in my neck," Favre said. "Other than that, it's fine."

Favre, who insists he hasn't yet decided if he'll come back for his 19th NFL season, wants to see what the exam shows before determining anything.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3796825

My prediction: 75% chance he calls it quits ... for real this time. With Mangini's firing, it makes this decision more likely. The last thing Favre wants is more uncertainty and possibly another offense to learn.

catman 12-29-2008 02:58 PM

I hope Favre doesn't do what he's done to the Packers the past few seasons. The Jets need to make a decision as to their long-term QB. Favre won't be it, but if he's back next year, that would be good for the Jets.

HibachiDG 12-29-2008 10:20 PM

Ha, well, it already looks like Favre is going to do what he's done with the Packers the past few seasons.

Get ready for some "they need a QB who can work well with Favre, but Kellen Clemens is the QB of the future so they need a QB who can fit Clemens in, but, wait, do we even know if Clemens is the QB of the future?" type stories.

Marc 12-30-2008 05:53 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3800421

Favre's pain in his arm is reportedly due to a torn tendon. Minor surgery required. I just hope he retires.

doublee 12-30-2008 11:45 PM

He needs to go. I am sure his return will depend largely upon how much say the Jets let him have in who the new coach is. If they ask his input he'll be back if not he'll be gone.

I don't quite get the firing personally. The Jets basically brought in a guy in Favre who does fit into what Mangini wants to do offensively and then make him the fall guy when it falls apart.

Anthony 01-01-2009 04:48 AM

And with the Jets' strength of schedule going way up next year (see my thread on that), if Favre does retire, the Jets will literally become a prime contender for the first pick in the 2010 draft.

doublee 01-01-2009 10:57 PM

Some of Favre's teammates are calling him out and won't be too broken up if he is not back next year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004

bama4256 01-02-2009 12:42 PM

Favre's future is alwasys in doubt it seems.

Marc 01-02-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by doublee (Post 292807)
Some of Favre's teammates are calling him out and won't be too broken up if he is not back next year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3804004

Thomas Jones backed off today, saying it wasn't a personal attack and he would expect the same criticism from Favre if he had two fumbles, etc. I think he has a point in his comments. I think with Favre's arm injury, the coaching change in NY, and now the apparent friction between him and the team, the chances of him returning are very slim.

Anthony 01-03-2009 03:37 AM

You improve your team's record by five games from the year before, and you get canned.

Thank G-d Mangini is white. :lol:

Marc 01-06-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 292861)
You improve your team's record by five games from the year before, and you get canned.

Thank G-d Mangini is white. :lol:

On the whole, he did improve them, but the expectations were raised significantly with their hot start with Favre, and the collapse was enough to get him canned. It's a "what have you done for me lately" league!

doublee 01-06-2009 02:22 PM

You know, though, one would think some of these owners would wise up and give their coaches more than two or three years to do something. The last 3 teams to win a Super Bowl all had owners who stuck by their coaches and were patient with them. Coughlin had one foot out the door two years ago, Cowher had a 3-year span where he did not even make the playoffs and won only 22 games, and Dungy was always the guy who could never quite get his team to the next level until he finally did.

I mean just look at how many coaches Jerry Jones and Al Davis have burned through the past 10 years or so and where it has gotten them.

It took Chuck Noll 4 seasons to reach the playoffs and six to make it to the Super Bowl.

It took Belichick 4 years to reach the playoffs in Cleveland until they canned him after going 5-11 the next.

buckeyefan78 01-06-2009 05:09 PM

Chuck Noll had no pressure to win though. Pittsburgh was God awful before he arrived.

HibachiDG 01-06-2009 05:09 PM

That seems to me like a good argument for hiring head coaches that have been fired, but you believe can have success.

Anthony 01-07-2009 03:35 AM

But back to Brett Favre: Why not Chicago or Minnesota if the Jets do dump him?

With both teams getting ridiculously easy schedules next year (see my thread on that), adding Favre to either team would make them the clear pre-season favorite to obtain home-field advantage throughout the playoffs in the NFC.


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