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Dano 06-30-2007 07:10 PM

Unit Rankings
 
Guys let me know your feelings about this. I really can't see where they come up with some of these.

The Sporting News Unit Rankings


OFFENSE

Backfields
1. West Virginia
2. Michigan
3. Texas
4. Texas A&M
5. Southern Cal
Five others:
Boston College, California, Clemson, Georgia and Hawaii. Where the $#*^ is Arkansas?

Lines
1. Southern Cal
2. Oklahoma
3. Michigan
4. Georgia Tech
5. Maryland
Five Others:
Boise State,BYU,Oregon St.,Rutgers and Wisconsin

Receivers
1. Texas
2. Penn State
3. California
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma
Five Others:
Hawaii, Louisville, LSU, Maryland and Southern Cal

DEFENSE

Lines
1. LSU
2. USC
3. Wisconsin
4. Texas
5. TCU
Five others:
Arizona State, Auburn, Georgia Tech, Southern Miss. and Virginia Tech

Linebackers
1. USC
2. Virginia Tech
3. Texas
4. Penn State
5. LSU
Five others:
Boston College, Ohio State, Oregon State Southern Miss and TCU

Secondaries
1. Southern Cal (Jesus they are loaded)
2. Miami
3. UCLA
4. Penn State
5. Oklahoma
Five others:
Auburn, Georgia, Rutgers, Virginia Tech and Wisconsin.

da12ken 06-30-2007 07:21 PM

If backfields include QBs and tailbacks then Arkansas doesn't belong in the top five. Neither does USC.

Dano 06-30-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by da12ken (Post 249315)
If backfields include QBs and tailbacks then Arkansas doesn't belong in the top five. Neither does USC.

You must work for the SN. Let me remind you of Arkansas backfield.
Darren McFadden, Nothing more to say about him. Felix Jones. Would be an All American on any other team in D-1. And in most people's opinion, Full back, but can play anywhere, Peyton Hillis. If Hillis stays healthy last season. Arkansas would have most likely been playing Ohio State in the BCSNCG. And QB Casey Dick who has recovered from his nagging back injury of last season isn't terrible.
With your view at this QB plays a big part, with Arkansas running back alone, they could have the 119 rank QB and still be in the top ten. Keep your eye on this and see what I mean.
And In USC case, I do believe they belong there. With Josh Booty at QB, and super Fullback Stanley Havili and RB's Chancey Washington, Emmanuel Moody and CJ Gable. That's good, then you add The best freshman for the upcoming season in McKnight And they truly belong. I see them better than West Virginia as far a depth goes.

If your a football fan, then keep your eye on Peyton Hillis. With a new offense and a new role, plus he's a proven leader. This kid is pure Football.

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Jeff Levers 07-01-2007 02:47 PM

Does the Sporting News get a kickback every time they mention Texas as well? I know they are a very good team, but being top 5 in the country at 4 of the 6 units they listed is a bit much.

I definitely agree about Arkansas, their RB's are ridiculous. Saw them in person at SEC Champ and Jones really impressed me. McFadden was banged up that game but still played really well. I have no idea how they aren't on the list at all, much less in the top 5.

I know a lot of you will say it is the Gator bias in me, but I think their receivers group should be higher. They had an extremely talented group already with Harvin, Caldwell, Ingram, Murphy, Fayson, and they added Deonte Thompson (#3 ranked WR) and Aaron Hernandez (#1 TE) to that group.

Penn State doesn't have anywhere near the depth that UF does, and while I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Pac-10 football, Cal only has DeSean Jackson from what I have seen. Maybe one of our west coast people could enlighten me to the rest of Cal's WR group.

That said, it's not like these are experts picking this list. It is just someone's opinion on the groups, just like if one of us decided to create the list.

digital7 07-01-2007 07:01 PM

That list is bogus. What the hell does Sporting News know about College Football anyways?

Alex 07-01-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Levers (Post 249340)
Penn State doesn't have anywhere near the depth that UF does, and while I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Pac-10 football, Cal only has DeSean Jackson from what I have seen. Maybe one of our west coast people could enlighten me to the rest of Cal's WR group.

Quite the contrary. Penn State has three receivers with two years of starting experience (all juniors) and all three had 40+ catches last season. Terrell Golden is a senior and has been seeing the field since his redshirt freshman season. Chris Bell was one of the top receiving prospects two years ago. Add in Andrew Quarless at TE (unclear whether this list includes the TE as an OL or a WR), one of the rising stars across the nation, and Brett Brackett, Kevin Cousins, and James McDonald for depth and you get a pretty nice unit. PSU's receivers just didn't get much attention last season since Morelli sucked rotten eggs up until the Outback Bowl, and then that was probably one of the poorer performances for the receivers as a group (a ton of dropped balls).

I don't know whether PSU has the #2 receiving corps but it's without a doubt top 5.

da12ken 07-01-2007 11:50 PM

Re: Arkansas

Having a stellar running game and an average QB to me doesn't equal a top-five backfield. That's like saying a really good QB compensates for an okay running game (USC).

I know a few Arkansas fans and they're not convinced Casey Dick is the answer. The Razorbacks are already stocking up on arms (latest one being a walk-on from California, Brian Reader) in the event Dick doesn't work out.

Re: Cal receivers

Robert Jordan, Lavelle Hawkins and Syd'Quan Thompson were the Bears' secondary receivers. They're are solid bunch, Jordan being the best out of the bunch. Jeff Tedford's offense relies on a lot of short passes (coincidentally West Coast), so in a sense Marshawn Lynch was probably their second best WR last year. Whether Justin Forsett can pick up where Lynch and Arrington left off, who knows.

Alex 07-02-2007 12:44 AM

Southern Cal has an ungodly amount of talent at running back. If they can't produce a top 5 backfield with that kind of talent there's something wrong. I wish I could take just one of their 4* or 5* tailbacks for Penn State. They must have 7 or 8 just from the past two classes.

da12ken 07-02-2007 01:04 AM

None of the RBs from the last class stood out. This year Marc Tyler and Joe McKnight (especially Joe) should be good, but Marc is coming off a terrible foot injury. Plus a running back is only as good as his offensive line as USC has to replace a couple more guys in the trenches. #1 line my ass.

buckeyefan78 07-02-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 249382)
Quite the contrary. Penn State has three receivers with two years of starting experience (all juniors) and all three had 40+ catches last season. Terrell Golden is a senior and has been seeing the field since his redshirt freshman season. Chris Bell was one of the top receiving prospects two years ago. Add in Andrew Quarless at TE (unclear whether this list includes the TE as an OL or a WR), one of the rising stars across the nation, and Brett Brackett, Kevin Cousins, and James McDonald for depth and you get a pretty nice unit. PSU's receivers just didn't get much attention last season since Morelli sucked rotten eggs up until the Outback Bowl, and then that was probably one of the poorer performances for the receivers as a group (a ton of dropped balls).

I don't know whether PSU has the #2 receiving corps but it's without a doubt top 5.

Agreed. Penn State has the best receiving corps in the Big Ten and quite possibly school history. The old man will open it up with Morelli being a senior (much like 2005 with Robinson) and we'll see what they got. If only the line and RB situation was more stable...eh Alex?

:P

Backfields include the QB in these ratings. Just stating that to clear the confusion. Michigan has a true freshman backing up Henne. I kind of like Wisconsin' backfield more than UM's overall...as a unit. Donovan and Evridge are really solid. I know they lack starting experience but I love their promise and Donovan's play last year. Plus Hill is a beast.

Then again...I'm Wisconsin crazy. :thumbup:

I don't know too much outside the Big Ten...LOL...but I like Penn State's secondary, receivers, and linebacking unit as being up there with the nation's elite. Michigan's offensive line is probably the best in the Big Ten...with only Wisconsin having a beef there. D-line in the Big Ten goes to Wisconsin...hands down.

I like Connor over James L. at OSU but I think we may have more depth at linebacker than the Lions. It's close and they have the experience so I'll give 'em the nod for now. Larry Grant is a star in the making at LB in Columbus.

Alex 07-02-2007 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 249434)
Agreed. Penn State has the best receiving corps in the Big Ten and quite possibly school history. The old man will open it up with Morelli being a senior (much like 2005 with Robinson) and we'll see what they got. If only the line and RB situation was more stable...eh Alex?

:P

Backfields include the QB in these ratings. Just stating that to clear the confusion. Michigan has a true freshman backing up Henne. I kind of like Wisconsin' backfield more than UM's overall...as a unit. Donovan and Evridge are really solid. I know they lack starting experience but I love their promise and Donovan's play last year. Plus Hill is a beast.

Then again...I'm Wisconsin crazy. :thumbup:

I don't know too much outside the Big Ten...LOL...but I like Penn State's secondary, receivers, and linebacking unit as being up there with the nation's elite. Michigan's offensive line is probably the best in the Big Ten...with only Wisconsin having a beef there. D-line in the Big Ten goes to Wisconsin...hands down.

I like Connor over James L. at OSU but I think we may have more depth at linebacker than the Lions. It's close and they have the experience so I'll give 'em the nod for now. Larry Grant is a star in the making at LB in Columbus.

The OL doesn't particularly concern me. Losing Brown is big but Cadogan slides over there with some starting experience and it's widely believed that he's a better fit at tackle than guard.

OSU may have PSU beat depth-wise this year but in the coming years I don't think anyone in the nation will rival the talent and depth that Penn State has at LB. Even losing Connor after '07, PSU's linebackers will probably be collectively better in '08. They brought in a terrific group of talented LB's in the past recruiting class and they have possibly assembled an even better one so far this year.

buckeyefan78 07-03-2007 02:35 PM

I'm VERY concerned about the O-Line in Happy Valley. I'd say that is their glaring weakness. D-Line is a little unstable too but Larry Johnson gets the job done there so I'm not as concerned.


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