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Marc 03-23-2009 10:24 PM

Schilling announces retirement
 
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BOSTON -- From bloody sock to bum shoulder, Curt Schilling rarely left the Boston Red Sox spotlight.

On the field, the husky right-hander pitched through pain to help end the club's 86-year championship drought in 2004 -- and then contributed to another World Series title three years later.

Off the field, the opinionated observer appeared at a congressional hearing on steroids use and campaigned for former President George W. Bush.

From a Thanksgiving dinner in 2003 at his Arizona home where Boston general manager Theo Epstein lured him back to the team that drafted him in 1986 to his retirement Monday, Schilling made his mark in a city of demanding fans.

"I think in the end, we really didn't need to sell it," Epstein said Monday. "The Red Sox were perfect for him, because he likes the big stage, the history of the game. He likes to be the center of attention. It was a good fit."

Schilling enriched that history throughout a career that began with Baltimore in 1988 when he retired the first major league batter he faced, Boston's Wade Boggs, on a groundball. He threw his last pitch in 2007, a ball on a full count to Colorado's Todd Helton in Game 2 of Boston's World Series sweep.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4007993

Goes without saying he's going to the Hall, and admirably has stayed out of the steroid discussion, unlike one of his peers, Roger Clemens.

catman 03-23-2009 10:48 PM

He has been, unquestionably, the best "big-game" pitcher of this era. As to him going into the HOF, his 216 wins in 23 years will be a detriment. He is not a "lock", but I would look hard at voting for him.
All this said, his retirement removes one of the most entertaining players from the bigs.

tobynosker 03-24-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by catman
As to him going into the HOF, his 216 wins in 23 years will be a detriment. He is not a "lock", but I would look hard at voting for him.
Not only his win total, but he's also not a guy that is well liked by the baseball writers who will be deciding his fate. It will all depend on how much weight one places on his performances in the postseason, because those are the only numbers making an arguement for Schilling to get into the Hall.

doublee 03-24-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by catman (Post 295426)
All this said, his retirement removes one of the most entertaining players from the bigs.

I am sure ESPN, MLB TV, and FOX are lining up at his door as we speak with offer to join their networks. He may not be playing this season but something tells me we have not seen the last of him as it pertains to baseball.

catman 03-24-2009 12:31 PM

I'm sure he will have something to say, whether or not it is sanctioned by any network or MLB. He has never shied away from a camera and microphone and I do not see any reason to believe he will start now.

themush 03-24-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by catman (Post 295426)
He has been, unquestionably, the best "big-game" pitcher of this era. As to him going into the HOF, his 216 wins in 23 years will be a detriment. He is not a "lock", but I would look hard at voting for him.
All this said, his retirement removes one of the most entertaining players from the bigs.

No F-ing way he belongs in the HOF.

suedon1970 03-24-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by themush (Post 295447)
No F-ing way he belongs in the HOF.

I agree - he might've had an outstanding record in postseason play:

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Postseason Pitching Gamelogs / Vs. Pitcher / Event Finder

Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W L SV CG IP H ER BB SO
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
1993 NLCS PHI ATL W 2 2 1.69 0 0 0 0 16 11 3 5 19
WS PHI TOR L 2 2 3.52 1 1 0 1 15.1 13 6 5 9
2001 NLDS ARI STL W 2 2 0.50 2 0 0 2 18 9 1 2 18
NLCS ARI ATL W 1 1 1.00 1 0 0 1 9 4 1 2 12
WS ARI NYY W 3 3 1.69 1 0 0 0 21.1 12 4 2 26
2002 NLDS ARI STL L 1 1 1.29 0 0 0 0 7 7 1 1 7
2004 ALDS BOS ANA W 1 1 2.70 1 0 0 0 6.2 9 2 2 4
ALCS BOS NYY W 2 2 6.30 1 1 0 0 10 10 7 2 5
WS BOS STL W 1 1 0.00 1 0 0 0 6 4 0 1 4
2007 ALDS BOS LAA W 1 1 0.00 1 0 0 0 7 6 0 1 4
ALCS BOS CLE W 2 2 5.40 1 0 0 0 11.2 15 7 0 8
WS BOS COL W 1 1 1.69 1 0 0 0 5.1 4 1 2 4
+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
4 Lg Div Series 3-1 5 5 0.93 4 0 0 2 38.2 31 4 6 33
4 Lg Champ Series 4-0 7 7 3.47 3 1 0 1 46.2 40 18 9 44
4 World Series 3-1 7 7 2.06 4 1 0 1 48 33 11 10 43
12 Postseason Ser 10-2 19 19 2.23 11 2 0 4 133.1 104 33 25 120
+--------------------+-----+---+---+------+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+
The guy had a very inconsistent regular season career to say the least. If they won't elect Bert Blyleven into the HOF (whose numbers are comparable to several pitchers already in the HOF), they sure as heck shouldn't put Shilling in...

Marc 03-25-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by suedon1970 (Post 295450)
I agree - he might've had an outstanding record in postseason play:



The guy had a very inconsistent regular season career to say the least. If they won't elect Bert Blyleven into the HOF (whose numbers are comparable to several pitchers already in the HOF), they sure as heck shouldn't put Shilling in...

But what is more important, regular season or postseason? The latter. And he was legendary when it counted, a la the bloody sock game. That should get him in the Hall, IMO.


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