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KevinBeane 09-01-2006 03:05 AM

First night in the books
 
*Central Michigan showed a lot of poise for an underdog, cutting a 31-10 4th quarter lead down to 31-24 against BC....had it in BC territory with a couple minutes left to try to tie but BC got the pick when CMich tried a gimmicky play that backfired.

*Northern Arizona had #25 Arizona State tied going into the fourth.

*Temple and Buffalo played a match of hilarious offensive ineptitude, still tied at zero (nice weather, as far as I could tell) midway through the fourth. BUffalo won 9-3 in OT.

*Not a lot of offense across the board, unsurprisingly. Stony Brook/Hofstra and Northwestern/Miami were also scoreless at halftime, South Carolina was up 3-0 at the half over Mississippi State (the offtensive woes continue for Sylvester Croom, as the other USC goes on to pitch the shutout) and Middle Tennessee beat Florida International 7-6.

*The most exciting game, judging by the box score, was Toledo-Iowa State, with the Cyclones winning 45-43 in triple overtime.

buckeyefan78 09-01-2006 03:36 AM

I'd probably go with the CMU-BC game as the most exciting one of the night for several reasons...

1. Scoring doesn't translate into excitement...esp. if you like defense.
2. It was at CMU (Tol-ISU was in Iowa)
3. B.C. is coming off an amazing 2005 season (ISU is mediocre)
4. CMU is NOT one of the traditional MAC powers (Toledo is)
5. The defensive intensity of CMU late in the game really got the crowd, coaches, and players into it. Toledo-ISU was more like trading blows...which isn't as good as an underdog making a strong run for the upset...IMO.

Very happy with the low scores too. S.C. holds Miss St. on a 4th down late in that defensive struggle to get the ball back on downs then goes to the bomb on the very next play...excellent call by Spurrier. When it's tight like that...tightness only a defensive game can generate...you really appreciate good coaching in a situation like that.

suedon1970 09-01-2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 214307)
Very happy with the low scores too. S.C. holds Miss St. on a 4th down late in that defensive struggle to get the ball back on downs then goes to the bomb on the very next play...excellent call by Spurrier. When it's tight like that...tightness only a defensive game can generate...you really appreciate good coaching in a situation like that.

I saw that play - excellent call by the Ol' Ball Coach!!!:thumbup:

S.C.'s defense looked good and will keep them out of trouble in many more games this season. I was getting nervous when Mitchell went down in the 1st quarter (had $$$ riding on S.C. of course;) ) but glad he came back and they ultimately won....

Dublin Mike 09-01-2006 02:10 PM

Why did Sylvester Croom never adjust to the attacking defense? He ran a fake reverse severaL times, but never ran the reverse itself, and hardly any play action on 1st down. I kept expecting a screen at some point to counter the attacking LBs, but it never came. He never made any adjustments.

190 Octane 09-01-2006 02:15 PM

Had NAU beat Arizona State, that might very well have made the season for me.

NY Jay 05 09-01-2006 03:23 PM

Hofstra is my hometown team (about 10 minutes away from my house) so I'm always rooting for them. Plus, a kid who just graduated from my high school is a freshman WR for the Pride.

Looks like Minnesota may have found a nice successor for Marion Barber and Lawerence Maroney in Alex Daniels.

The Pirate Bob 09-01-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 190 Octane (Post 214337)
Had NAU beat Arizona State, that might very well have made the season for me.

Anyone know where this guy lives?

doublee 09-01-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinBeane (Post 214303)
*Central Michigan showed a lot of poise for an underdog, cutting a 31-10 4th quarter lead down to 31-24 against BC....had it in BC territory with a couple minutes left to try to tie but BC got the pick when CMich tried a gimmicky play that backfired.

It is a shame CMU's QB got knocked out on the first play of the game and had to go with a Freshman QB the rest of the way. They may have pulled that one out otherwise.

Miss States QB going down early certainly did not do them any favors.

suedon1970 09-02-2006 01:05 AM

Gosh darn it, why couldn't Fresno State beat the spread in their revenge win vs. Nevada?

Dublin Mike 09-02-2006 11:57 PM

UGA's offense was horrid today. I can't understand how Tereshinski is the starter. 7-17 passing. Let me rephrase that. 7-17 passing AGAINSY WESTERN FRIGGIN KENTUCKY!!!! No way do they beat South Carolina next week. Not only will they not win, they may get blown out.

BTW, the call for Stafford to start will get louder after today. Of the 3 QBs that played, he looked the best. The kid has a gun for an arm. Got some pics of him I took that I may be able to get up.

buckeyefan78 09-03-2006 12:31 AM

Ohio State was horrible too Mike...if that makes ya feel any better. They basically gave up 280ish yards to this Wolfe kid from N. Ill. Their linebackers didn't attack the ball. The kicking game sucked. Gonna be a long night in Austin next week.

Grade: F

Dublin Mike 09-03-2006 12:35 AM

The defense and special teams looked great, 78, but the offense. Ugh. I counted 2 passes that Tereshinski threw that, if he throws against South Carolina, will be taken back for 6. He has heart, but he doesn't have near enough arm.

buckeyefan78 09-03-2006 12:40 AM

Maybe we should combine our squads then Mike. Our offense looked great (though the play calling sucked) while our defense and special teams didn't impress. I don't give a sh** about offense though. That doesn't win you jack.

Maurice Wells fumbled...again. Tressel put Zwick in late during the middle of a series (why God?) and he fumbled. Horrible. Just horrible.

Larry Grant played well on defense for us...I guess a bright spot.

Dublin Mike 09-03-2006 12:45 AM

The defense for us was outstanding. Quentin Moses reminds me so much of Pollack. Just a non stop relentless pass rusher.

But again, this was WKU. We'll see how they fare next week vs a non-high school team.

buckeyefan78 09-03-2006 12:49 AM

The Pac Ten went 1-2 vs. the SEC...kinda expected it. Would have liked to seen Cal give the Vols a game though. That's a tough one. I had hope when I heard WSU was battling Auburn but the Tigers managed to pull away. All three games were in Dixie though. Southern Miss. played Florida tight briefly...more hope...but dashed as depth and fatigue factored in...I assume.

Dublin Mike 09-03-2006 12:51 AM

Speaking of Cal, how did they start the season in the top 10? That game was brutal, and the score could have been far worse.

buckeyefan78 09-03-2006 01:23 AM

I can't put too much lipstick on the pig that was the Cal-Tenn game but it was a million miles from home in one of the most intimidating stadiums in the country. Still...that will only get you so far when your ass was down 35-0 at one point. I was PISSED when we got a bite to eat after the game in Columbus and saw that score at the bar.

da12ken 09-03-2006 01:53 AM

Cal's secondary did them in. At least three TD's were from horrible mis-tackles. Also the WR's didn't do too much. I thought they were relying too much on Hawkins. I don't even know the guy, but I do know Cal has Jackson and Jordan, two of the better WR's in the PAC-10.

USC was fantastic. The 2nd half was a real treat.

LA sports 09-03-2006 03:28 AM

Went to the UCLA/Utah game today and I am pretty happy with my Bruins. 31-10 victory. Our defense looked better than it did last year already(which is not saying much), and can you say Ben Olson. Ben looked awesome. I was disappointed in our running game though but I think it will come together as well with Markey, Bell and Williams. We've got Rice next week and we need to win these early games because our schedule gets real tough later. (at Notre Dame, at Cal, at ASU and of course the SC game as well as a tough Oregon team)

Hawkeye crazy 09-03-2006 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 214430)
Ohio State was horrible too Mike...if that makes ya feel any better. They basically gave up 280ish yards to this Wolfe kid from N. Ill. Their linebackers didn't attack the ball. The kicking game sucked. Gonna be a long night in Austin next week.

Grade: F


Wow... Thats a different tune from most Ohio States view point. Most like to come over to the Iowa board and say how great they are. In all honesty, I thought they played well today(although the defense sucked at times).

doublee 09-03-2006 09:44 AM

Cal's defense in general did them in. They could not tackle anyone and their corners looked like they were running in mud. The Vols' receivers just ran right past them at will.

Tennessee looked like the Tennessee of old. They were getting after it on defense and were just laying the lumber to Cal every chance they got.

Cal is the early frontrunner for most overrated team coming into the season. Legit top ten teams don't get embarrassed like that on the road.

NY Jay 05 09-03-2006 10:50 AM

Penn State looked awesome vs. Akron yesterday. Morelli got to show off how strong his arm is, bombing like a 45-yard pass to Deon Butler on PSU's 3rd play of the game. The running game didn't get much going, but the defense played pretty well. They held Akron to 9 points until there were around 2 or 3 minutes to go and they gave up a quick touchdown. Looking forward to next weeks PSU/ND game in South Bend.

Noon 09-03-2006 11:20 AM

Colorado lost to a D-IAA team. Kansas State beat a D-IAA team by a point after one of the dumbest coaching decisions of the last 10 years. Kansas State also failed to score an offensive touchdown. No. 10 Oklahoma narrowly escaped against UAB. And Iowa State, a potential favorite to challenge Nebraska for the Big 12 North, went to triple overtime against Toledo.

Otherwise, a fantastic opening weekend for the Big 12.

Dublin Mike 09-03-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Noon (Post 214476)

Otherwise, a fantastic opening weekend for the Big 12.

I can't tell, but I think that post is dripping w/sarcasm.

Richard the Lionheart 09-03-2006 05:08 PM

I can't help but chuckle a little bit at buckeye's grade of F after Ohio State utterly dominated a solid MAC team, who was ranked at one point last year I believe, and is a favorite to take their conference. NIU's running back is one of the best in the country, and in the Ohio State D's first real game together, they struggled a little bit, giving up a couple big plays, but really the game was never in doubt, and for the most part NIU was kept off the scoreboard. Is this last year's D? No, at least not yet, but they weren't too bad all things considered. They will need to be a bit better if they expect to beat teams like Texas, Iowa, Penn State and Michigan...I agree with you there. But I'm quite confident they will be after they gel a little. Don't forget that the 02 and 03 Buckeyes were prone to some big plays as well, and gave up their share of yards, but they tightened up on their end of the field, and kept teams off the scoreboard.

The offense is as advertised, which I was a bit suprised about. I thought it was overhyped a little going in, but it looked fantastic...there is so much talent everywhere. Chris Wells looks like he is going to be an Eddie George-type bruiser back to accomodate Antonio Pittman's own speed and size. Ginn didn't screw up at all, and made his usual big plays. Smith was deadly accurate, and we haven't even really see him scramble yet.

I really disagree with your assesment that the kicking game "sucked". Nugent is gone, and people like him don't come around very often in the college game. I mean, the kid we have missed kicks of 50 and 45 yards, I believe, from opposite hash-marks. Those are though kicks, and few teams besides Ohio State have been making them in recent years. He seems to have a lively leg...he booted the ball for touchbacks on nearly every kickoff, and he didn't miss any extra points so he's not a headcase yet, hopefully he doesn't hear too much chatter from those who are so quick to criticize in Columbus...I think he'll be fine. The offense is for real, the special teams is above average (but a little below what we're used to here), and the defense is young, talented, fast, and a bit prone to a big play right now it seems. Overall, I give their effort a solid B, with plenty of room and potential for improvement. I'm more confident after watching them in this game than I was going into the season.

buckeyefan78 09-03-2006 10:12 PM

The Ohio State University has no excuse for not having a kicker who can't hit 45-yard field goals.

Offense...no comment...don't give a sh**. Just don't screw up and put pressure on the defense. They are seniors...act like it...and they did...just get back to work. We didn't see Smith scramble or an attempt to establish the run cuz Tressell wants to save that for next week...which I applaud. Still, I would have liked to seen more runs on 1st down to see what the backs had against a defense with 8 in the box.

Defense...sucked. No swarming...no gameplan to stop a one-man team.

Coaching was average/poor. All you have to do is spread the field against this defense and they will struggle...no matter who Tressel got out there over his tenure.

Hopefully Chris Wells is now #2 (as it seems to be) and Zwick sits on the bench for the rest of his life after this game. But those are two things anyone could have figured out before this game.

A solid F and little hope in Austin.

Dublin Mike 09-03-2006 10:13 PM

Michael Bush just went down with what looks like could be a very serious knee injury. He was having a monster game. That could doom Louisville's chances at a big season.

themush 09-03-2006 10:27 PM

Broken tibia will sideline Bush for the rest of the season. I wonder what that will do to his draft stock.

doublee 09-03-2006 11:16 PM

I doubt it would hurt his stock too terribly much as long as he is healthy by the combine. Broken legs are generally not as bad as busted up knees.

Alex 09-04-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NY Jay 05 (Post 214469)
Penn State looked awesome vs. Akron yesterday. Morelli got to show off how strong his arm is, bombing like a 45-yard pass to Deon Butler on PSU's 3rd play of the game. The running game didn't get much going, but the defense played pretty well. They held Akron to 9 points until there were around 2 or 3 minutes to go and they gave up a quick touchdown. Looking forward to next weeks PSU/ND game in South Bend.

Awesome wouldn't be the word I would use to describe it. Good for sure but there were a lot of troubling developments that will keep Penn State from beating the three elite teams on the schedule this season.

1. Run blocking. Horrible, absolutely horrible. Now Akron runs a 3-3-5 and basically sold out to stop Tony Hunt. It was sound strategy, force Morelli to throw the ball in the rain, because they didn't know he was going to play so well in his first start. However, it doesn't exactly give PSU fans a warm fuzzy feeling going to Notre Dame next weekend not knowing whether PSU can consistently run or not.

2. Stopping the run. Penn State did a good job defending the pass. Getsy is a good QB and he did very little to hurt the Nittany Lions. His lone TD pass came after the game had been decided. However, Dennis Kennedy had some nice runs despite his relatively low rushing totals (25 for 59, 1 TD, 2.4 ypc). Darius Walker is a much better back than Kennedy. If Penn State can contain Walker, stopping the ND offense will be much easier.

3. Tackling by the seconday. Donnie Johnson was excellent out there but Justin King and Tony Davis need to improve their tackling. Way too many missed tackles against Akron. The rain could've had a minor effect on it but the secondary will get torched if they can't consistently bring down Samardzija and McKnight next week.

4. Jason Ganter. He botched two field goal snaps when he tripped on a fake and then flat out mishandled another one. He has one job on the team and 50% of the field goals snaps were bobbled. This isn't something that would keep PSU from beating Akron but it is something that can't happen against Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc.

Some good things:
1. Pass rush, especially from the linebackers
2. All three starting wide outs looked good
3. Morelli played well considering it was his first start and in a rainstorm
4. Dan Connor looked like an All-American

NY Jay 05 09-04-2006 01:05 PM

^ Yes, they definitley have some flaws they need to fix. I was just excited to see them win their opening game.

suedon1970 09-04-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 214452)
I can't put too much lipstick on the pig that was the Cal-Tenn game but it was a million miles from home in one of the most intimidating stadiums in the country. Still...that will only get you so far when your ass was down 35-0 at one point. I was PISSED when we got a bite to eat after the game in Columbus and saw that score at the bar.

I hope you were able to keep your food down, Buckeye!:D

Seriously, I for one was not surprised of the outcome of the Cal/Tenn game, just at how much of a blowout it really was. Although it was the first game and there's still more to come, I am convinced that Tennessee's horrid season last year was a fluke, and don't look forward to the Gators visiting Knoxville in 2 weeks......

buckeyefan78 09-04-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by suedon1970 (Post 214625)
I hope you were able to keep your food down, Buckeye!:D

Seriously, I for one was not surprised of the outcome of the Cal/Tenn game, just at how much of a blowout it really was. Although it was the first game and there's still more to come, I am convinced that Tennessee's horrid season last year was a fluke, and don't look forward to the Gators visiting Knoxville in 2 weeks......

I just HATE the f***ing SEC. Hate 'em. Arizona is at LSU this weekend. You have no idea how bad I want this one.

Dublin Mike 09-04-2006 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by suedon1970 (Post 214625)
I am convinced that Tennessee's horrid season last year was a fluke, and don't look forward to the Gators visiting Knoxville in 2 weeks......

Nah Sue, just remember UT's theme song:

"Rocky flop,
You'll always be,
3rd in the SEC.
Good ole Rocky Flop,
WOOOOO!
Rocky Flop Tennessee."

:D

suedon1970 09-05-2006 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dublin Mike (Post 214664)
Nah Sue, just remember UT's theme song:

"Rocky flop,
You'll always be,
3rd in the SEC.
Good ole Rocky Flop,
WOOOOO!
Rocky Flop Tennessee."

:D

:lol: :lol:

So true.....so true......

suedon1970 09-05-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 214631)
I just HATE the f***ing SEC. Hate 'em. Arizona is at LSU this weekend. You have no idea how bad I want this one.

I just HATE the f***ing Big Ten. Hate 'em. OSU is at Texas this weekend. You have no idea how bad I want this one.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

buckeyefan78 09-05-2006 04:21 PM

Ya know Sue...it would be nice for Florida to meet Ohio State on the field to settle things once and for all but we both know that will never happen. It won't go down for 2 reasons...

1. Florida can't get win their way to a high bowl (like Ohio State...who is the only NCAA team with a 4-0 mark in the BCS).

2. The Gators will never schedule a squad from a state that doesn't have a Moonshine Day as well as a grits eating contest at the state fair.

Oh well. I guess that's why we sent down a boy from northeast Ohio to fix all your problems. You guys need the help. ;)

suedon1970 09-05-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by buckeyefan78 (Post 214722)
Ya know Sue...it would be nice for Florida to meet Ohio State on the field to settle things once and for all but we both know that will never happen. It won't go down for 2 reasons...

1. Florida can't get win their way to a high bowl (like Ohio State...who is the only NCAA team with a 4-0 mark in the BCS).

2. The Gators will never schedule a squad from a state that doesn't have a Moonshine Day as well as a grits eating contest at the state fair.

Oh well. I guess that's why we sent down a boy from northeast Ohio to fix all your problems. You guys need the help. ;)

No, I believe the meeting between the two schools won't happen for these two reasons:

1. OSU players & coaches can't read , so therefore can't locate Florida on a simple map of the USA....and

2. OSU will never schedule a squad from a state that doesn't have a neo-Nazi booth and cow-tipping contest at the state fair.

Oh, don't feel too sorry for the Gators Buckeye: a Southern boy DID fix some problems and led them to a National Championship 10 years ago. The jury's still out on your Ohio boy.......

Richard the Lionheart 09-05-2006 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suedon1970 (Post 214725)
No, I believe the meeting between the two schools won't happen for these two reasons:

1. OSU players & coaches can't read , so therefore can't locate Florida on a simple map of the USA....and

2. OSU will never schedule a squad from a state that doesn't have a neo-Nazi booth and cow-tipping contest at the state fair.

Number one isn't even worth discussing, and number two isn't true, doesn't make sense, and actually wouldn't really even prevent us from scheduling Florida. Ohio State and the Big Ten have consistenly proven their desire to schedule big time programs for their nonconference schedule, while the SEC has not...and I'm not even an SEC hater, I respect the conference, and happen to think it is damn good.

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Originally Posted by suedon1970 (Post 214725)
Oh, don't feel too sorry for the Gators Buckeye: a Southern boy DID fix some problems and led them to a National Championship 10 years ago. The jury's still out on your Ohio boy.......

All that can be said to that is Spurrier voluntarily left the university...let him go. If memory serves U of F was elated to land Meyer...I would think one year wouldn't change that. Oh but what am I saying? I'm sure you guys already hatched this all out in PM. my bad.

suedon1970 09-05-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky the Kid (Post 214726)
Number one isn't even worth discussing, and number two isn't true, doesn't make sense, and actually wouldn't really even prevent us from scheduling Florida. Ohio State and the Big Ten have consistenly proven their desire to schedule big time programs for their nonconference schedule, while the SEC has not...and I'm not even an SEC hater, I respect the conference, and happen to think it is damn good.



All that can be said to that is Spurrier voluntarily left the university...let him go. If memory serves U of F was elated to land Meyer...I would think one year wouldn't change that. Oh but what am I saying? I'm sure you guys already hatched this all out in PM. my bad.

Ricky, did you even read Buckeye's comments before you started attacking mine? No, I didn't think so........:rolleyes:

This is known as "playful banter" between somewhat friendly college football fan rivals, Ricky. But I guess you probably do think it would be logical that we have moonshine & a grits eating contest at the Florida State Fair.:rolleyes:

No S*** Spurrier left on his own terms - he wanted to try and coach in the NFL and his experiment didn't work out. UF fans (myself included) were elated that we got Meyer after the Zook experience. Buck, in his funny, teasing way:D , said that UF had to rely on an Ohio boy to get us out of our mess. I just said the jury's still out on that - too early to tell after one season and one game.

Geez, just having fun with each other Ricky. You need to stop taking everything so literal - it will add years to your life........

Edit: SEC not scheduling big time programs for their non-conference schedules?????? Did you NOT watch any games this weekend or in the last few years, Ricky??? Give me a break!!!!!


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