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Old 06-26-2005, 11:38 PM   #1
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Default Best season ever for a pitcher?

I know I'm making a ton of threads (lol) but here it goes:

My pick? Pedro in '00. He was amazing.
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Old 06-27-2005, 03:24 AM   #2
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I'm not gonna argue there, but there are several other great years that deserve recognition. First, Bob Gibson's 1968 season. Though that was the biggest pitchers era ever, he still dominated like no other that year. Maddux also was amazing in '95 and '96. I'm too lazy to look up which, but I think Walter Johnson's best years were 1913 and 1918. Sorry if I'm wrong there. At his best, Walter Johnson was amazing. And just for the hell of it, I'm gonna say Satchel Paige's whole Negro League career was amazing.
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:54 AM   #3
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And just for the hell of it, I'm gonna say Satchel Paige's whole Negro League career was amazing. [/B]
They don't keep the stats for those anymore, do they
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Old 06-27-2005, 11:49 AM   #4
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First off, I welcome Mclaren to the boards. A fresh point of view is always good.
I have to agree that Gibson's season was amazing. A 1.12 ERA with 13 shutouts and 28 complete games in 34 starts was incredible. 22-9 record to boot. Had he been healthy the whole season (he missed 4 starts) and he could have had 300 Ks as well (he finished with 268).
Walter Johnson's career was filled with great seasons, as was Sandy Koufax's (the last 6 were the best I ever saw).
You could make an argument for Denny McLain's 1968 (31-6/336 IP/280 Ks/1.96) as well.
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Thanks for welcoming me

Many people can be fooled by Gibson's year in '68. Sure, he had an INCREDIBLE 1.12 ERA, but was it really good? 5 pitchers had an ERA under 2. League ERA was 2.90

Now, Pedro is my vote, since he had a 1.72 ERA when league ERA was at 4.97!!!!!!! Keep in mind he pitched in the AL, too, where he had to face an extra batter. His season was incredible.
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:15 AM   #6
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How about Johan Santana's 2004 season? He was 13-0 after the All-Star break (1.31 ERA) and was the pitcher of the month in July, August and September. 20-6 with an ERA of 2.61 -- leading the league in Ks. Not a bad season. The only thing Pedro has on him is longevity and continuity of quality.
Seriously, no one could beat the season Gibson had in '68. He was unbelievable (I saw him many times on TV).
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How about Johan Santana's 2004 season? He was 13-0 after the All-Star break (1.31 ERA) and was the pitcher of the month in July, August and September. 20-6 with an ERA of 2.61 -- leading the league in Ks. Not a bad season. The only thing Pedro has on him is longevity and continuity of quality.
Seriously, no one could beat the season Gibson had in '68. He was unbelievable (I saw him many times on TV).
Johan Santana? Sure, he was good after the all-star break, but his full season can't be considered one of the best... if he kept it up all season, it would probably be the best ever.
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give dontrelle willis some respect he leads the national league with 12 wins and is tied for the whole mlb with pitcher jon garland. he is 2nd in the nl with a ERA of 2.04. he is 12-3 with 4 CG and 3 shutouts. can u get better then that
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That's not the best season ever. Geez...
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Old 07-03-2005, 02:28 PM   #11
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The Guidry year stands out for me. Great one!!!
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Walter Johnson was amazing in 1913. Wooooooo-weeeee!!!
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Doc Gooden in 86 was a pretty great year to go along with a World Championship. I enjoyed his season of greatness.
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:35 AM   #14
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I CAN'T BELIEVE that in the ENTIRE history of baseball, ANYBODY would consider Pedro Martinez's 2000 season the best year ever pitched. Or Johan Santana. Or Dontrelle Willis.

What about the pitchers before!!?! Walter Johnson, "The big six" Christy Mathewson, Bob gibson, Guidry in 78 absolutely. Thank God some people were able to bring these pitchers and their years into this.
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Old 07-11-2005, 01:41 AM   #15
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BY THE WAY, look at some of Christy Mathewson's numbers before you defend Martinez...

1905 with the NY Giants
31-9 with a 1.28 ERA
37 Complete Games with 8 shutouts
206 Strikeouts

1908 with the NY Giants
37-11 with a 1.43 ERA
34 complete Games with 11 shutouts
259 Strikeouts

I mean just look at this guy's stats. I understand pitchers were suppossed to go longer back then, but DAMN!

And do I agree Gibson has the best season ever in 1968? Absolutely. But I'm just showing some other options here...
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