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Old 04-10-2007, 10:17 AM   #1
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Radio host Don Imus, suspended for two weeks for calling the Rutgers female basketball players "nappy-headed hos," called the punishment appropriate Tuesday but stressed, "I am not a racist."

"What I did was make a stupid, idiotic mistake in a comedy context," Imus said on his show Tuesday morning, the final week before his suspension starts.

Asked by NBC "Today" host Matt Lauer if he could clean up his act as he promised on Monday, he said, "Well, perhaps I can't." But he added, "I have a history of keeping my word."

The radio host tried to shift some of the focus from himself, saying, "that phrase originated in the black community. ... I may be a white man, but I know that these young women and young black women all through that society are demeaned and degraded by their own black men and that they are called that name."

Imus said his staff had been trying to set up a meeting with the Rutgers players to apologize, but he said he didn't expect forgiveness. Of the two-week suspension by MSNBC and CBS Radio, he said: "I think it's appropriate, and I am going to try to serve it with some dignity."

Members of the Rutgers team and coach C. Vivian Stringer planned to speak publicly about the comments later Tuesday.

The Rev. Al Sharpton also appeared on "Today" and called the suspension "not nearly enough. I think it is too little, too late." He said presidential candidates and other politicians should refrain from going on Imus' show in the future.

Imus, who appeared on Sharpton's syndicated radio program for two hours Monday, accused the minister of lacking courage for refusing an invitation to appear on "Imus in the Morning." Sharpton said he couldn't tell people not to watch the show and then appear on it. "It's not about courage," he said.

MSNBC, which telecasts the radio show, said Imus' expressions of regret and embarrassment, coupled with his stated dedication to changing the show's discourse, made it believe suspension was the appropriate response.

"Our future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word," the network said late Monday.

Imus, who has made a career of cranky insults in the morning, was fighting for his job following the joke that by his own admission went "way too far." He continued through the day Monday, both on his show and Sharpton's.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who marched with about 50 protesters Monday outside NBC offices in Chicago, said Imus' suspensions will not halt the protests.

"This is a two-week cooling off period," Jackson said. "It does not challenge the character of the show, its political impact, or the impact that these comments have had on our society."

Imus could be in real danger if the outcry causes advertisers to shy away from him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio. The National Organization for Women is also seeking Imus' ouster.

Imus isn't the most popular radio talk-show host the trade publication Talkers ranks him the 14th most influential but his audience is heavy on the political and media elite that advertisers pay a premium to reach. Authors, journalists and politicians are frequent guests and targets for insults.

He has urged critics to recognize that his show is a comedy that spreads insults broadly. Imus or his cast have called Colin Powell a "weasel," New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson a "fat sissy" and referred to Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado, an American Indian, as "the guy from `F Troop.'" He and his colleagues also called the New York Knicks a group of "chest-thumping pimps."

On Sharpton's program, Imus said that "our agenda is to be funny and sometimes we go too far. And this time we went way too far."

He started the firestorm a day after the Rutgers team, which includes eight black women, lost the NCAA women's championship game to Tennessee. He was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk and said "that's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ..."

"Some hardcore hos," McGuirk said.

"That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that," Imus said.

The Rutgers comment struck a chord, in part, because it was aimed at a group of young women at the pinnacle of athletic success. It also came in a different public atmosphere following the Michael Richards and Mel Gibson incidents, said Eric Deggans, columnist for the St. Petersburg Times and chairman of the media monitoring committee of the National Association of Black Journalists. The NABJ's governing board, which doesn't include Deggans, wants Imus canned.

"This may be the first time where he's done something like this in the YouTube era," Deggans said. Viewers can quickly see clips of Imus' remarks, not allowing him to redefine their context, he said.

On his show Monday, Imus called himself "a good person" who made a bad mistake.

"Here's what I've learned: that you can't make fun of everybody, because some people don't deserve it," he said. "And because the climate on this program has been what it's been for 30 years doesn't mean that it has to be that way for the next five years or whatever because that has to change, and I understand that."

Baseball star Cal Ripken Jr., who was to appear on Imus' show later this week, canceled the appearance, according to the Washington Times.

The "Today" show's Al Roker said Tuesday on his show's official blog that it was time for Imus to go. "I, for one, am really tired of the diatribes, the 'humor' at others' expense, the cruelty that passes for 'funny,'" Roker said.

Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), whose presidential candidacy has been backed by Imus on the air, said he would still appear on Imus' program.

"He has apologized," McCain said. "He said that he is deeply sorry. I'm a great believer in redemption."

Imus' radio show originates from WFAN in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both managed by CBS. The show reached an estimated 361,000 viewers on MSNBC in the first three months of the year, up 39 percent from last year. That's the best competitive position it has ever achieved against CNN (372,000 viewers).

Imus' fate could ultimately rest with two of the nation's most prominent media executives: CBS Corp. chief Leslie Moonves and Jeff Zucker, head of NBC Universal.

"He will survive it if he stops apologizing so much," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers. Imus clearly seems under corporate pressure to make amends, but he's nearly reached the point where he is alienating the fans who appreciate his grumpy outrageousness.

Even if he were to be fired, he's likely to land elsewhere in radio, Harrison said.

Imus was mostly contrite in his appearance with Sharpton, although the activist did not change his opinion that Imus should lose his job. At one point Imus seemed incredulous at Sharpton's suggestion that he might walk away from the incident unscathed.

"Unscathed?" Imus said. "How do you think I'm unscathed by this? Don't you think I'm humiliated?"

Associated Press writers Deepti Hajela and Jacques Billeaud in New York and Nathaniel Hernandez in Chicago contributed to this report.

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Political correctness at it again?

Don Imus = racist?
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:37 AM   #2
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Can u say "Freedom of Speech" He didn't say they were nappy looking hos, but they looked like they were. Big difference.

I'm tired of people apologizing for everything they say. If u mean it say it.

This is reallyb blown out of proportion. I will listen to him anytime.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:46 AM   #3
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We either do or do not have freedom of speech in this nation; it cannot be selectively employed. While I abhor what Imus is accused of saying, he has every right to say it and let listeners either tune in or tune out. That is capitalism. It is hypocrisy in the extreme to give Rosie O'Donnell a forum for her comments, and Anne Coulter a forum for her comments, then selectively castigate somebody else named Imus for his comments, simply because a race-baiting preacher named Al Sharpton somehow takes exception.

Do not misunderstand me; what Imus said is bad and I wouldn't say something like that myself. But in a free society, selectively voicing abhorance - a pick and choose mentality - is wrong too. It is truly politically correct, and wrong, to express outrage selectively.
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Can u say "Freedom of Speech" He didn't say they were nappy looking hos, but they looked like they were. Big difference.

I'm tired of people apologizing for everything they say. If u mean it say it.

This is reallyb blown out of proportion. I will listen to him anytime.
I like Imus, but this isn't a matter of free speech. He can say whatever he wants, but certain people may not sponsor or employ him anymore. These remarks were racists, any way you slice it. They used the word "jigaboo" and "nappy headed hos." That is unacceptable. His suspension is completely reasonable and I hope he learns from this. There is nothing wrong with being "edgey" but when you say racists or discriminatory remarks, you have to face the music.
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:51 AM   #5
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These remarks were racist.
So are tons of CD-ROMS by rap artists which use the N-word ad naseum. Shall we dispose of all these CDs in the record stores right now?

Where in the Constitution is free-expression defined with the limits you are making?
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So are tons of CD-ROMS by rap artists which use the N-word ad naseum. Shall we dispose of all these CDs in the record stores right now?
If you can't see the difference here you have some problems. If I use the word "cracker" to describe my white friend it is not racists. Just like African American's who use racial slurs to describe their own race is no racists. There is a double standard, sure, but that is for a reason.

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Where in the Constitution is free-expression defined with the limits you are making?
Where did the government step in? No one said he broke the law. Now one said he should be arrested. But if MSNC or the radio station wants to suspend him, that is their right. If sponsors want to stop supporting him, that is their right.

Who brought the constitution into this? This has nothing to do with government, law, or rights. It has to do with a private citizen and private business.
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If I use the word "cracker" to describe my white friend it is not racists...
And you are a hypocrite if you believe such foolishness...

We either do or do not have free speech in this nation and such attempts as yours to impose politically-correct labels smacks of hypocrisy and is wrong.
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And you are a hypocrite if you believe such foolishness...

We either do or do not have free speech in this nation and such attempts as yours to impose politically-correct labels smacks of hypocrisy and is wrong.
As far as I can tell, Imus has retained his free speech rights. Unless the government in some way was involved in his punishment, he retains the legal right to say what he did. His employer was under no legal obligation to suspend him. This was a PR matter.

I think the outcry is way overblown, but the people so upset by this have the right to state that opinion as well.
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We either do or do not have free speech in this nation and such attempts as yours to impose politically-correct labels smacks of hypocrisy and is wrong
When did I say he doesn't have the right to say whatever he wants?

Are you implying that his employers shouldn't be allowed to suspend him?
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As far as I can tell, Imus has retained his free speech rights. Unless the government in some way was involved in his punishment, he retains the legal right to say what he did. His employer was under no legal obligation to suspend him. This was a PR matter.

I think the outcry is way overblown, but the people so upset by this have the right to state that opinion as well.
Thank you montro, IntheNet can not see that this has nothing to do with free speech. Everyone agrees that he should be allowed to say whatever he wants.

The government is involved in no way, therefor the constitution is not relevant.

Is this over your head inthenet?
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Reporter ask the Rutgers girls what they thought of rap music and Comedy Central making racist remarks or calling girls hos.

They couldn't say much about that-why aren't they crying out about rap that bashes women of all colors?
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Reporter ask the Rutgers girls what they thought of rap music and Comedy Central making racist remarks or calling girls hos.

They couldn't say much about that-why aren't they crying out about rap that bashes women of all colors?
Rappers are artists, that are not held to high standards in terms of social implications. Imus is a political commentator and is held to high standards because of his type of program and audience. Just the facts of life. It is the same reason there is more of an uproar when a politician says something contraversial compared to when an athlete says something contraversial. It is about standards, and that will never change.
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Imus is a political commentator on occasion. But to label him as a political commentator soley is a bit silly. In terms of the bit he was doing about the Rutgers women team, he was doing something no different than rappers and comedians...
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Imus is a political commentator on occasion. But to label him as a political commentator soley is a bit silly. In terms of the bit he was doing about the Rutgers women team, he was doing something no different than rappers and comedians...
I didn't say he is ONLY a political commentator, I simply stated that he IS a political commentator.
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N_GGER - People that annoy you.

So whats the issue? He has the right to say what he wants. His employer has the right to terminate his employment if they believe what he says poorly represents them.

People say ignorant things all the time.
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