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Old 09-05-2008, 03:20 PM   #31
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I still say he could have done more to upstage the NFL. Simply changing his name to Ocho Cinco was too self-orientated in the fight against the system.
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I still say he could have done more to upstage the NFL. Simply changing his name to Ocho Cinco was too self-orientated in the fight against the system.
On that point, I'd say I personally wasn't even thinking about 'upstaging the NFL' for exactly that reason. A pioneer in the fight against the system he ain't...
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:30 PM   #33
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Simply changing his name to Ocho Cinco was too self-orientated in the fight against the system.
I guess this is where I differ from the two of you. Yes, going to the media, b-tching about the Bengals, and demanding a trade (the latter of which he caved in on because of some sudden change of heart) during the off-season was self-centered and was Chad being an attention whore.

But I don't know... the beginning of this name gag started long before this off-season and like most of his other antics, this seems good natured.
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On that point, I'd say I personally wasn't even thinking about 'upstaging the NFL' for exactly that reason. A pioneer in the fight against the system he ain't...
That's my point.

Rob says he was trying to undermine the NFL. I'm all for that. But we both know he was simply fighting for himself.

What kinda cause is that?

Here's a better idea:

Yo Goodell! I change my name to Ocho Cinco and all jersey proceeds go to charity X. Then he does a commercial with children in the background.

:lol::lol:

Then Goodell and his henchmen are like "Oh shi-t! The Children!"

See (crazily points at head)...that's how you gotta do these things.

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Rob says he was trying to undermine the NFL.
See my post right above this, but...

I guess I shouldn't have said that Johnson was trying to undermine the NFL. But the great thing about this is that DOES undermine Goodell's power, which he uses way too much. You can only control players' character so much, and this is a triumph of character over the oppressing authority who wants everyone to be the same.

Anyways, whether it undermined Goodell or not, it still seemed good natured to me
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See my post right above this, but...

I guess I shouldn't have said that Johnson was trying to undermine the NFL. But the great thing about this is that DOES undermine Goodell's power, which he uses way too much. You can only control players' character so much, and this is a triumph of character over the oppressing authority who wants everyone to be the same.

Anyways, whether it undermined Goodell or not, it still seemed good natured to me
I hear ya Rob but he could have done more. See what I mean about the charity angle?

When you're sincere and wanna have fun it wouldn't be so self-centered as it has been.

If he's as free and easy as people want to paint him as...he would have went all out on this one.
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I hear ya Rob but he could have done more. See what I mean about the charity angle?

When you're sincere and wanna have fun it wouldn't be so self-centered as it has been.

If he's as free and easy as people want to paint him as...he would have went all out on this one.
I see the whole charity thing and it would have even made Goodell look like an even bigger dick, but this is Chad Johnson we are talking about here-- the same guy who wanted to bring a deer that he hit with his car on the field for a TD celebration. I wouldn't expect too elaborate of an idea from Chad Johnson

But I do agree with you to a point: if he was more well-natured, he would have gotten charity involved. But idk... I still think it was all in good fun.
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Now you're getting my point.

When you take his other b.s. into consideration it kinda makes him look selfish in doing this Ocho Cinco thing this way.

It's always about him.

I love a good caper Rob. I encourage total rebellion...but it has to be done intelligently.

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The saga continues...

NFL has not signed off on 'Ocho Cinco' jersey

BALTIMORE - Chad Johnson has changed his name, but his jersey remained the same Sunday.

The Cincinnati Bengals receiver legally changed his name from Chad Johnson to Chad Ocho Cinco, but the NFL decided against allowing him to put his name on his jersey.

"While the NFL has recognized the legal name change of Chad Johnson to Chad Ocho Cinco, the league informed the Bengals today that certain issues remain to be resolved before Ocho Cinco will be permitted to wear his new surname on his jersey," the league said in a statement.

"He will wear the name Johnson on his jersey today and will be referred to as Chad Johnson on the official play-by-play sheet," the statement said. "Further questions should be directed to the league office."

Contacted Sunday by The Associated Press, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said, "He has a financial obligation to Reebok, which produces the jerseys available to fans. That has to be resolved before the on-field jersey can be changed.

"The same obligation exists for any player that changes his number or name."
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So, Reebok doesn't want this name change so they can sell more jerseys? Or is Reebok just complaining so they look like they're not trying to squeeze more money out of the fans?
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Seeing that Johnson is probably a decent selling jersey, it probably has to do with guaranteeing that, whatever amount of jersey's that are already made, they don't end up dropping off the charts due to the Ocho jersey & ending up as lost revenue.

I'd say once that contingency is addressed, there will be a lift of that decision.

It's always about the money....
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Does not look like we will be seeing any Ocho Cinco jerseys any time soon:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,106605

Reebok says if Johnson is willing to buy all of the old jerseys then they will start making new ones. It is said that could cost upwards of $4 mil and if he is as hard up for cash as CK says he is then I doubt it will happen anytime soon unless his agent ponies up the cash.
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I don't get this. If Reebok just released the Ocho Cinco jersey, all the fans that bought the C. Johnson jersey would also buy the Ocho Cinco jersy, and they may even get new fans to buy the jersey.

This is just one more way the 'No Fun League' is takin the fun out of football.
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I don't get this. If Reebok just released the Ocho Cinco jersey, all the fans that bought the C. Johnson jersey would also buy the Ocho Cinco jersy, and they may even get new fans to buy the jersey.
True but then Reebok has to eat the cost of the other jerseys that they did not sell. They now have 100,000 jerseys that nobody is going to want because of the Ocho Cinco jerseys.

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This is just one more way the 'No Fun League' is takin the fun out of football.
I don't think this was the NFL's call as much as it was Reebok's. They are the ones who lose the most out of the deal since the NFL itself really does not pay them anything to make the apparel. The NFL makes its money off of the licensing agreement it signed with Reebok to be its sole provider of apparel.
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Those are good points, but the NFL originally said that he was good to go to wear 'Ocho Cinco' on his jersey and then changed that stance later, when they announced that he had a deal with Reebok he had to stay with. Why couldn't they have said he had a deal with Reebok from the beginning, instead of letting him wear it at first and then taking it away?

And Reebok can donate the jerseys to charity as they rake in the money from the Ocho Cinco jerseys. Thusly they look like good people, and not people trying to squeeze every cent they can out of other people.
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