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Old 08-26-2004, 02:13 AM   #1
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I hate admitting it, but at best the Bucs might get into but no further than the 1st round of the playoffs, and at worst be god awful. It all depends on our offensive line. If they are good we are decent. I do see hope for the future. Michael Clayton. Ian Gold, Jermane Phillips, Dwight Smith, and Mark Jones (as a returner) are all young and look good. We shall see.:uhoh:
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Old 08-26-2004, 02:30 AM   #2
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The Buccaneers should be fine this year. They hold a huge class edge over the rest of their division, and they will be far more focused this year with both Meshawn and Big Mouth Sapp gone.

However, I doubt if they can get past either T.O. and the Eagles or the Rams in the playoffs.
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:41 AM   #3
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The Buccaneers should be fine this year. They hold a huge class edge over the rest of their division, and they will be far more focused this year with both Meshawn and Big Mouth Sapp gone.

However, I doubt if they can get past either T.O. and the Eagles or the Rams in the playoffs.
Anthony can we go 1 thread w/out you pimping "T.O. and the Eagles"?
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:18 AM   #4
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I am curious about the direction of the Bucs I think they are a bit of a question mark. Gruden would rather run Simms out at QB, but he knows the Bucs probably will not win with him right away and the team has not officially entered a 'rebuilding stage'. Losing Sapp and John Lynch is a definite hit to the leadership of the defense. Derrick Brooks is rumored to be on his way out after this season because of his big contract.

I agree that they could easily win the division or fall flat on their butts. I think the same can be said for every team in that division. They all probably have the talent to win, but they also have recent histories, except the Panthers, of not living up to expectations.
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I think the day the Aints replace Haslett will be the day they become serious contenders for the South. That team has a load of talent, but he seems to hold them back every year.
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Well in fairness to Haslett his teams always seem to be fighting injuries to key players. But, I agree that it is probably about time for a change there. It just does not seem to be working with him as the coach.
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Old 08-26-2004, 02:25 PM   #7
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Haslett has Bill Cowher Syndrome, to wit: He won the war of wills over GM Randy Mueller with the owner, and has stopped coaching.

Cowher won his war with GM Tom Donahoe, and the Steelers, aside from one good year that Donahoe established before his dismissal, have been a crap team.

The Saints have maybe the worst homefield DISadvantage that will exist in the NFL till a team opens shop in Vegas. N'Awlins being the party place that it is... if a team and its coaches lose focus, well, the only person to blame is the Head Coach.
(And then, when the owner does nothing to fix the matter, the owner.)

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The Bucs are in horrible shape, IMO. Lost Sapp, Keyshawn, Johnson is old, McCardell is holding out and old, Pittman is/was in legal trouble and not that good to begin with -- even guys like Lynch are getting old. This team is really on the downslide.
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Yeah, Lynch is getting old. Which is why they released him and he signed with Denver...

Wow, Marc. You're gonna hit 15,000 posts by the end of September. Nifty.

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LOL, that proves my point even more. Not only are the Bucs old, but they don't have any recognizeable players anymore. Aside from Brooks, who is still pretty darn good.

15K, huh? I honestly haven't noticed. I lost track after it hit five digits. That's what you get for no extended absenses in four years. Of course, if someone bashes Kentucky or Green Bay, I'll hit 15K a lot sooner...
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Yo Anthony, "class" edge? Just tell me you're talking about sportsmanship, and on the field behavior. Boy, I needed a serious chuckle today.
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The Sucs will be 8-8, give or take a game....or maybe two.....depending on a call or two the zebras do or don't see fit to make.

Toss 'em in with the rest of the mediocre slop the league's socialist agenda has jammed down our throat.

Lap it up, sheep.
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Yo Anthony, "class" edge? Just tell me you're talking about sportsmanship, and on the field behavior. Boy, I needed a serious chuckle today.

Actually no; by "class" I mean a proven record of consistent success - an area in which Tampa Bay has lopsidedly outperformed the other three teams in the division over the past seven years or so.

In short, the Bucs know how to win - the Saints don't, and you can't say the Falcons or Panthers do either as neither Atlanta nor Carolina have ever finished above .500 two years in a row in franchise history.

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The Foulcons are in deep trouble right now. The west coast offense they will be running this year is very complex to learn, and Vick needs some game experience running the system. He didn't play last night, and in the one pre season game he did play in, he looked sloppy. Meanwhile, rookie Schaub has come in looking like an all pro rookie, mostly because he ran this defense throughout college. And we all know the 4th preseaon game, the starters stay in maybe one series, if at all. It'll be interesting to see if Vick can come out on opening day and run this offense effectively.
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I like Schaub a lot. He got to run a pro style offense at UVA under Al Groh and had a great junior season where he won the ACC Player of the Year while completing 68.9% of his passes and throwing 28 TDs against only 7 INTs. He fell off a bit during his Senior season after he hurt his shoulder in summer practice but he still completed 69.7% of his passes. I am still not convinced that Vick has the accuracy to be effective in the West Coast Offense. I wonder how injured Vick really is. He and the team keep claiming it is nothing serious, but he misses this game and came up lame in last week's game.
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