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Old 10-14-2004, 01:32 AM   #31
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I gotta hand it to the Yanks ..... up 2-0 now. I don't know how they do it? I already realize what a great team they are but to beat Schilling and Pedro????? Remarkable on the Yankees part .... especially Jon Lieber's performance tonight.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:06 AM   #32
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Yah, that Yankee starting pitching is awful. Five ER combined by Lieber and Mussina the last two games.

If Schilling can't go, this series is as good as over. The Yankees win tomorrow night, the Sox squeak out some false hope Saturday and the Yankees take it on Sunday.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:10 PM   #33
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The only thing that can save the Sox is Pedro's little friend. Think about it, the Curse of the Bambino will be gone and on the Yanks it will be "The Curse of the Litte Friend".
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:16 PM   #34
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This one's over.
There's some blather about winning four out of five behind Arroyo, Wake, Pedro and Lowe up here, but it's completely unconvincing.

I honestly will be surprised if the Sox win a game. Really. I realize that Brown and (is Vasquez going in Game Four?) are question marks, but really. Arroyo will stand some chance, but the Sox bullpen will implode again (something no one in Boston wanted to discuss since the Sox eventually beat the Angels) and cost him the game, and Wake... he's just been pretty terrible down the stretch. And Lowe's been no better, assuming they get that far.

I'm betting they don't.

I'm ready to watch the Yankees get the snot kicked out of them by the Cardinals, though. That oughtta be a pretty decent WS.

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Old 10-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #35
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El Duque is going in game 4.

The Sox had to expect to win a game in NY. Their pitching staff isnt going to get it done for them the rest of the way. They need to out hit them. Brown and Hernandez should get roughed up. You have to figure Moose is going to hold them in check, but no way Lieber pitches this good again.
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #36
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I really believe the Yankees will take this series in 6. Arroyo may struggle in Game 3 and the Schilling injury could cost the Red Sox the series.
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:17 PM   #37
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I'm ready to watch the Yankees get the snot kicked out of them by the Cardinals, though. That oughtta be a pretty decent WS.
The Yankees are the Cardinals with better starting pitching. The Cardinals had four more wins than the Yankees during the regular season. If the Yankees hadn't been horrible in April they would've easily had a couple more.

I am not saying that the Yankees are a lock to win a Cardinals-Yankees series but in a Game 7 at Yankee Stadium who are you going to take? The Yankees with Brown or Mussina or the Cardinals with Carpenter or Morris?
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Old 10-14-2004, 03:22 PM   #38
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Ummm... I'm a Yankees hater even before I'm a Red Sox fan, Alex, so I'm taking the Cardinals.

That game from Mussina the other night was a fluke, and you know it. He rarely pitches that well in the playoffs.

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Old 10-14-2004, 03:22 PM   #39
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Oh, and btw... if Johnny Damon gets his stuff together, they might be able to steal a game, but I see this one over in five, minimum.

Esp., with El Duque on the mound.

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Old 10-15-2004, 08:08 PM   #40
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Ummm... I'm a Yankees hater even before I'm a Red Sox fan, Alex, so I'm taking the Cardinals.

That game from Mussina the other night was a fluke, and you know it. He rarely pitches that well in the playoffs.
He had a good game against Minnesota. Ok, the Twins' aren't the best offense out there. I give you that. But Mussina absolutely dominated Boston for six innings. You can't expect him to do that again but he'll pitch well. He's better than anything St. Louis has.
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But he's alone in that regard. You won't get from Lieber what you got from him in Game 2 EVER again, nevermind in the WS.
If El Duque's healthy, he's your almost Ace B, but whether he's healthy or not seems a question for which the answer changes on an hourly basis, so...

Personally, I'm looking forward to a Rivera v Pujols situation, just 'cuz I think it'll be fun to see.

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But he's alone in that regard. You won't get from Lieber what you got from him in Game 2 EVER again, nevermind in the WS.
If El Duque's healthy, he's your almost Ace B, but whether he's healthy or not seems a question for which the answer changes on an hourly basis, so...

Personally, I'm looking forward to a Rivera v Pujols situation, just 'cuz I think it'll be fun to see.

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Point taken on Lieber. You can't expect him to be THAT good again but he won't suddenly crumble to pieces.

El Duque can't be counted on until he pitches tomorrow and shows whether he's healthy or not. The Yankees should bank on Mussina, Lieber and Brown as the top starters with El Duque as an added bonus if he's healthy.
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Old 10-17-2004, 12:28 AM   #43
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Talk about takin' no prisoners.....

NY really doused any Boston ideas of this being a series. Stunning....19-8 still in the top of the 9th & going for more???

It's one thing to rip the heart out of a team, another to rip it out in their own house, & still another when you rip it out in their house & eat it in front of them.

This aughta renew the curse for another 80 years.....
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Old 10-17-2004, 06:43 AM   #44
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The Yankees have forced Boston to the point of no return. Hopefully El Duque is strong tonight and just finishes an already done deal. Tim Wakefield pitched last night and just like every other pitcher the Sox sent out there, he was bad. Now the Yankees get Derek Lowe whom they beat pretty badly at Yankee Stadium about a month ago.

While Brown and Vazquez were both subpar in their performances, Quantrill and Gordon looked good in their combined 2 2/3 innings allowing only three total hits. Neither looekd good in the series until last night. Rivera got an extra day to rest after working hard in the first two games.

Boy I can't wait to see what the pundits have to say about the Yankees after they finish of Boston. All we heard leading up to his was how superior the Red Sox were and look at them now, 19-8 losers at home in a must-win game.
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Old 10-17-2004, 10:52 AM   #45
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I think the Sox quietly folded up shop once it looked as though Schilling was done for the series.
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