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Old 07-23-2006, 09:22 PM   #1
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On Baseball Tonight they had a rather heated discussion as to whether it is time for the Yankees to move A-Rod.

Harold Reynolds and Steve Phillips contend that the backlash from the media and fans is getting to be too much for him and that he looks mentally spent out there on the field. Neither Reynolds or Phillips think he is mentally tough enough to make it back to where he was in NY. They think he should be moved to a team where he can move back to his more comfortable position of SS. Every at bat and play he makes on the field seem to be dissected by the media these days and the fans boo him every single time he makes an error or strikes out. Heck, they even have fans complaining about him wandering around Central Park on game days without his shirt on catching some sun.

Now, to a degree, I get why he hears it from the fans. He is the highest paid player in the game and is hallowed as the best in the game in some circles so the fans are going to expect him to be a Triple Crown threat every season given the amount of money he is making.

John Kruk, on the other hand, maintains that he didn't get to be the best by being a mental midget and that all guys go through rough stretches in their careers. He also says those who want the Yanks to dump him are jumping the gun a bit as he is just having one bad week and in the end he will have the numbers we are used to seeing from him. He says if A-Rod can't handle the pressure of NY fans expecting him to win then he needs to go to Tampa or KC where there is no pressure to win.

I tend to lean towards Kruk's train of thought on this one. You don't just dump a guy who is going through a rough couple of weeks just because the media and fans are all over his case. He deserves the chance to try and dig himself out of this stretch and prove once again that he is one of the game's elite players. However, if the Yanks think his head is scrambled, it may be in the team's best interest to see what they could get in return for him.

The only problem is I am not sure who would be willing to take that contract on straight up and they may have to throw a significant amount of cash into the deal to make it work. There are only a handful of teams willing to take that kind of contract on with two of them being the Mets and the Red Sox. I can't see the Yanks swallowing their pride and trading him to Boston and there is no way they want to give the Mets the player who might put them over the top. They almost have to get at least one bonified star player and a legit prospect or two in return. The problem is most teams looking to get a guy like A-Rod are doing so in hopes he puts them over the top and I don't know that they would be willing to give up an All Star in return if the production A-Rod brings in return is not a significant impact on the lineup.

Ultimately, even if the Yanks wanted to move him I don't know if they will be able to during the season given that a majority of teams are still in the playoff hunt and are not going to be looking to make major changes to their lineups at this stage of the season. The Yanks are probably better off letting him play out the season and re-assess at the end of the year what to do with him. He is, after all, the reigning MVP and deserves the chance to get back to that level.
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It would be good for ARod to leave New York. If he were to go to a West Coast team, he could relax -- maybe even the Braves?
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I don't get why the pressure of playing in New York would just be catching up with him now when he won the A.L. MVP with them last season. Granted he was miserable in the playoffs but nonetheless, that's obviously a great achievement. I say the Yankees wait until he gets through this rough patch before making any big decisions.
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Old 07-24-2006, 12:10 AM   #4
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It would be good for ARod to leave New York. If he were to go to a West Coast team, he could relax -- maybe even the Braves?
Hmm, except that the Braves aren't inclined to take on that big of a contract and that would pretty much require them to trade Chipper who is one of the more popular Braves' players and they can't very well put Renteria in there as he plays SS. In recent years the Braves have been more inclined to let some of their higher paid talent go rather than sign them to big deals.

You are right he would probably be better off on the left coast or somewhere like Atlanta or St. Louis where the media scrutiny is not quite so harsh. But, like I said unless the Yanks are willing to help pay out the balance of the contract I am not sure they will be able to find a taker for him.

Jay, the backlash has never been this intense in the middle of the season for A-Rod in NY as it is now. They got on him when he went in the tank in the infamous Boston series in the playoffs a couple of years ago but he had a monster season last year so there was not much to be said until he had another so-so post season. This year is different as they are really digging into him now with over two months to go.
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I hate the Yankees and I don't like A-Rod either, but the Yanks can afford him and he is an incredible talent. I think it would be foolish to trade him. Like doublee said it would probably put another team over the top as well which I'm sure the Yanks don't want to do.
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I agree it would be a dumb move to trade him, but NY is a weird town. They boo the guy... He's just not fitting in there - they expect too much from him.
I don't care how bad a slump he's in - how can you trade A-Rod (as a top contender)? That said, I do believe he needs to get out of NY.
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I agree it would be a dumb move to trade him, but NY is a weird town. They boo the guy... He's just not fitting in there - they expect too much from him.
I don't care how bad a slump he's in - how can you trade A-Rod (as a top contender)? That said, I do believe he needs to get out of NY.
Expect too much of him? Expecting a $25 million a year player to be able to throw the ball from third to first without committing an error is a rudimentary skill.

The Yankees can't trade him. I doubt there is a team out there willing to give up a top end starter and a third baseman for him in addition to taking on the majority of his salary. Also, he is in a slump and I think he'll break out of it soon. If not, the Yanks can explore what might be better trade offers at the end of the season when half the teams in both leagues aren't in play off contention.
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I say expext too much because the guy wins the MVP and they boo him. Yeah, he's in a huge slump right now, but even still... I watch a lot of games, I've seen him get charged with an error on what should of been a base hit... anything off his glove is an automatic error.
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I say expext too much because the guy wins the MVP and they boo him. Yeah, he's in a huge slump right now, but even still... I watch a lot of games, I've seen him get charged with an error on what should of been a base hit... anything off his glove is an automatic error.
That's New York fans my friend. They can boo you all game for playing crappy but if you come up and hit a walk-off home run, you're everyone's favorite player again.
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and lets not forget 26 championships.... this town EXPECTS to win... no excuses. Papi goes 0-4 w/ 4 K's he still gets applauded.... he and Schilling can do no wrong in Boston for bring the championship there. NY is a different story, they're used to winning, remember when Jeter got booed last year? That was crazy - he was so cool about it though... he said he deserved it and then he got right out of that slump. I dont think ARod will ever do enough... jhe needs to hit the walk off GS in game 7 of the WS or s'thing.
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For everyone who says A-Rod can't handle the NY pressure, what about his MVP last season? He's proven he can perform, so I say it's all overreaction. I agree it's horrible fans boo their own players, they should be supporting them and encouraging them, but NY fans are pretty pathetic. You don't boo one of your own! No loyalty, no patience, disgusting.
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For everyone who says A-Rod can't handle the NY pressure, what about his MVP last season? He's proven he can perform, so I say it's all overreaction. I agree it's horrible fans boo their own players, they should be supporting them and encouraging them, but NY fans are pretty pathetic. You don't boo one of your own! No loyalty, no patience, disgusting.
Like Alex said, when a player is getting paid the crazy amount of money that A-Rod is, 3 errors in one game deserves some boos.

And no loyalty? That's an interesting generalization. Derek Jeter and Bernie Williams, two guys who were both brough up from the Yankees organization, are two players who still get the loudest cheers and have almost everyone in the crowd clapping when they come up to bat.
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I've never booed any of my own team's players, and if it got really bad, I wouldn't attend the game in silent protest (UK football). If NY fans find it acceptable to boo struggling players instead of support them, fine. Three errors in one game is not acceptable, but isn't booing him making it worse? And yes, they have shown loyalty to a few favorite sons, but look at all the players they ran out of town, i.e. Jose Contreras, who is now an ace.
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I know it seems harsh, but that's just how New York fans are and always have been, as far as I can remember. That's why those who can take the pressure seem to thrive off of it because they know if they continually play well that they will be cherished by the fans. And if a player can't handle it, it doesn't mean they aren't good players, it just means they need to play for a team that will not jump on them if they do bad, like the Contreras example. When a player gets booed in New York, such as a A-Rod, it doesn't mean the fans don't like him. They're just saying that, come on you play for the Yankees and we know you can do better.
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For everyone who says A-Rod can't handle the NY pressure, what about his MVP last season? He's proven he can perform, so I say it's all overreaction. I agree it's horrible fans boo their own players, they should be supporting them and encouraging them, but NY fans are pretty pathetic. You don't boo one of your own! No loyalty, no patience, disgusting.
As I pointed out earlier this year is totally different than his first two seasons. He didn't get the crush of criticism during the season that he is now. His first two years he had the pressure of just living up to the contract and the fans and media left him alone until he flamed out in the post season.
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