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Old 06-14-2009, 09:52 PM   #1
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What is Rocball?

Rocball is a game derivative of volleyball with its roots of play founded the in the Meso-American sport of Tlachtli. The actual game of Tlachtli involved passing a ball from side to side over a low wall without it touching the ground. If the ball fell to the ground, a team would win a point and vice versa. If you struck the ball with an incorrect part of the body, you could lose points for your team.

However, the real purpose of the game was to get the ball through the hoop on a wall above either side of the court. The team that did this won, irrespective of the current score of the game. As a game, Tlachtli has often been described as a combination between volleyball and soccer.

After the creation of volleyball in 1895 and prior to 1980, athletes who played this kind of team net sport played under two different restrictions. In volleyball, players were not allowed to hit the ball with any part of the body below the waist. In the Asian sport of sepak takrau players were not allowed to use their arms or hands to touch or hit a ball.

In the Micronesian sport of Rocball, players are allowed to hit the ball with any part of the body as long as a player doesn’t carry or hold the ball. And, as in Tlachtli, there is a situation in which a team can lose a point and both sports have scoring areas other than the court floor: The sport of Tlachtli had vertical loops 8 or 10 feet high on a wall above either side of the court, and Rocball has vertical areas for scoring with six by twelve foot goals located ten feet behind each court.

The serve is the catalyst by which this kind of sport operates. The beginning of the game starts from a serve and the beginning to the end of the game starts with the serve. When a player from a team in offense, serves a ball over the net, the receiving team, the defensive team, has two hits to return a served ball. When a served ball is successfully returned over the net, the offensive team has the first five hit play on the ball. And, thereafter, each team is allowed up to five hits to score point/s.

*** Variation: After two hits off a served ball, subsequent plays are five hits for the offensive team and three hits for the defensive team until point/s is scored. This system of play gives the serving/offensive team more of the benefits of the side-out system of play, where the team with the serve had scoring advantage and the receiving team worked against the score for the advantages of the serve.

1. The team with service is the offensive team and points scored by a team with the serve are defined as volley points: Volley = discharge and attack

2. The team receiving the serve is the defensive team and points scored by the defensive team are defined as rally points: Rally = mobilize and recover.

*** By identifying a team’s points as either volley or rally points, the game incorporates a different perspective and fosters diverse innovative relationships between the sport, its players, and teams.

3. Only the team with service, the offensive team, scoring volley points has closure. A team playing defense, the receiving team, scoring rally points cannot win a set/game. Whichever team scores a point/s serves the ball to start the next play; another remnant of the side-out system of play where there was a balance of challenges between teams.
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:59 AM   #2
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Rocball’s Prominence & Dominance

In the sport of Rocball, a team has to completely dominate their opponents in quarter-sets of play in order to win a game.

In what has been described as a variation of volleyball or a volleyball/hybrid sport, Rocball’s deviant and rogue rules of play are based on a balance of challenges that clearly defines teams in either the offensive or defensive situation of competition.

Rocball “Saipan’s Own Sport” is the first game in the world to implement offensive and defensive scoring in this kind of team net sport, and it is now the only sport of this kind which maintains that the serve is the catalyst by which competition is best served: A team cannot win a set or game without the serve.

Whereas, volleyball was designed as a soft impact sport for middle age men back in 1895 and adopted the rally point system for softer competition in 1995; Recall’s development was based on the Maya/Aztec warrior’s sport of Talachtli with the unimpaired, hard-drive components of the pre and post puberty syndromes of young athletes, fueled by natural human growth hormones.

Whereas, volleyball’s equation of profit per play is limited to one point executions off any possible athletic skill, at any level of difficulty, from any area on court by simply grounding the ball on an opponent’s court, Rocball implemented multiple point scoring techniques that identify the different degrees of difficulty of grounding a ball on an opponent’s court, and a Rocball court includes three dimensional vertical areas of play, goals, at either end of the court.

Whereas, volleyball is bogged down in a monotonous bump, set, spike three hit numb-lock repetitious mind set, Rocball play includes five hit plays to allow more diversity in game strategies, more spontaneous active and reactive scenarios in both offensive and defensive scoring, and has implemented more unpredictable dramatic activity in this kind of team net sport than volleyball.

What is Rocball? You can read and/or down-load the rules, regulations, and graphics of how Rocball is played on the internet. The Rocball homepage has been recently revised and you can connect to it by using Google, Yahoo, MSN etc. or find more materials in news releases on forums of volleyballforums.com in general discussion under “Wooden Stakes, Silver Bullets, and Hemlock, or about.com volleyball in general discussion under Rocball, or volleyball.com.au in general discussion under volleyball/soccer all by Feger.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:36 AM   #3
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Rocball News:

In Rocball news, there were several games completed last week. The Fanians defeated the CPC in four sets with a juice out win 66 to 59 and No-Mercy won their Thursday game by juicing out the Islanders in four sets 60 to 45.

The Fanians defeated CPC in every set 15 to 4, 10 to 17, 16 to 8 and 16 to 10. The heavy hitter of this game was Typhoon Saito of the Fanians with four aces and three kees for 14 points. In the game between No-Mercy and the Islanders Myron Laniyo of No-Mercy with three aces, three xunks, eight kees, and one goal for 31 points. But, for No-Mercy, Jason Limes has scored the final kill, last point/s in all of No-Mercy’s victories so far.

In the game between No-Mercy and the Islanders, there were 10 aces, 5 xunks, 13 kees, and 1 goal scored: An aces is a two point serve, a xunk is an optional two point serve where a team can add two points to their score or subtract two points from their opponent’s score, a kee is a two point backcourt play made by either team’s goalie, and a goal is a three point play made by any player who hits a ball into their opponent’s goal.

On Saturday, there were three games played. The Islanders were able to juice-out the Soul Rebels 53 to 43 in a game where the teams won two sets each. The Soul Rebels won sets two and three and the Islanders came from behind after losing the third set to outscore the Soul Rebels 17 to 3 and win the game 53 to 43. The heavy hitter of this game was Tito Francisco of the Islanders with four aces, 1 xunk, and one kee for 12 points, and teammate Jerry Saures scored two goals in support of the Islanders victory.

In the second game of the week for both No-Mercy and CPC, No-Mercy juiced-out CPC in four sets 671 to 52. No-Mercy won the first set 18 to 10; CPC won the second and third sets 17 to 10 and 18 to 17. No-Mercy came back and won the fourth set and was able to juice-out with a win by with Jason Limes scoring the game winning point again. Myron Laniyo was again the games heavy hitter with three aces, three xunks, and eight kees for 28 points.

Ben Lisua is this year’s first player to score in all of Rocball’s scoring techniques. Ben has scored aces, xunks, kees, goals, and the most difficult play in Rocball, a one point defensive play where a front line player can “jam” down a served ball. Myron Laniyo of No-Mercy is one play away from earning Rocball’s Master Blaster title. Myron needs to score a “jam” to earn Master Blaster. :thumbup:

The Kagman Projects came, they saw, and they shocked the MHS Gym Rocball players and spectators with a never give up attitude and tenacity. The first year team from Kagman were up against one of the better veteran teams, One-Way with well established and respected players like J.R. Gechig, Rodney Rosario, Dean Mathew, Jordan Marciano, and Chris Yug. And, team One-Way had their way in the first three sets defeating the Projects 16 to 8, 16 to 14, and 16 to 14 and had a comfortable 12 point lead after the third set 48 to 13.

But, in each of the first three sets the Projects lost, they did lead One-Way at one or another in each set.
In order for One –Way to win the game, all they needed to do was win the fourth set by any margin of victory. The Projects, on the other hand, had what seemed an almost impossible task for a first year, high school student team to complete. In order to win the game, they would have to either win the fourth set by a thirteen point margin, or win the fourth set by any margin less than thirteen point s and force the game into overtime. Because, Rocball rules state, a team cannot win a quarter/set game in a losing set regardless of team scores after four sets of play.

And, the Projects did it the hard way. They almost scunked One-Way with a 16 to 1 win in the fourth set that gave them their 13 point margin and with another two extra points to spare, for a shocking up-set juice-out victory 52 to 49. The heavy of the game was J.R.Gechig with three aces, one kee and one goal for 11 points. Alfredo Guevara of the Projects was his team’s heavy hitter with one ace and four kees for 10 points, and teammate Josh Jones scored two aces and his team’s only goal of the game for 7 points.
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Old 11-21-2009, 12:07 PM   #4
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I've never heard of Rocball. Is this a fairly popular sport in places?
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I've never heard of Rocball. Is this a fairly popular sport in places?
Rocball is a team nat sport derivative of volleyball with its roots of play founded in the Meso-American warrior sport of the Aztecs. It started in 1979 and has been an annual sporting eveny here in Saipan since 1983. Rocball is the first team net sport of its kind to implement offensive and defensive scoring and preceeded the rally point system of the FIVB rules for rally point scoring.

I have recievwed corrspondence about Rocball from Australia, India, Japan, England, Mexico, and the MIVA (Midwest Intercollegiate Volleyball Association), but it is mainly of sport of Micronesia where genrations of players from Chuuk, Palau, Kosrae, Marshalls, Yap, Pohnpei. Guam and other out lying isalnds have been palying the sport for since 1983.

You can "Google" the Rocball homepage and get all the basic rules of play with graphics and photos.

What Rocball isn't, is that it isn't the sissy game of rallypoint volleyball!!!
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Sand-Roc Tournament

In 2010 Rocball will temporarily move its court of activity from the MHS gym floor back to a sand court. On January 1st thru the 3rd, Rocball is going back outdoors. The first Rocball sand tournament since the late 1990s and the early part of this century will take place on the sand court of the Pacific Islands Club.

The rules for the “sand-roc” games will basically be the same as the rules for indoor Rocball except, teams will have four players and not five on court, the person serving will also be the goalie, the goalie/server will be allowed to charge the net, and only the goalie/server will be allowed to play-off court in the service area and in front of the goal behind the court’s end lines.

Individuals interested in forming teams to compete in “Saipan’s Own Sport” need a maximum of five and a minimum of four players to register: Teams that register for the sand-roc games will need at least one current Rocball club member on their roster to waiver a twenty-five dollar entrance fee.

If you are an individual who likes a volleyball skills type of sport and is not familiar with Rocball’s rules of play, you can “Google” Rocball and read up on the latest rules and regulations of the sport on the Rocball homepage with graphics, news releases of past games, and the synopsis on “Fools Fire”.
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News release: I wrote a statement that rally point scoring scoring is for sissys and posted it for a volleyball forum on the internet. The original statement read as follows:

Is Volleyball’s rally point scoring for Sissys ?:

Give the serving team in volleyball closure and eliminate the two-point margin win rule. Volleyball had a balance of challenges when the serving team had set and game closure.

It doesn't make any sense to allow a set or game to be won if a team cannot serve a ball over a net. That kind of rule may be okay for tennis or ping-pong where rackets and paddles are used, but volleyball shouldn't have to be subjected to this kind of inactive and default system of closure.

Volleyball used to be a game where a team had to have the courage to serve a ball over the net and challenge their opponents for the score. In fact, volleyball used to be a game where a team couldn't score a point if a ball wasn't served over the net. And, a volleyball game couldn't be won unless the service team scored a point off a ball served over the net.

The existing rules of closure for rally-point scoring, has sissified the sport.

In response to the above statement, one or more rally point advocates posted their arguments supporting volleyball's rally point method of play and I responded.

Forum: Rally point scoring makes for better, more precise and consistent players.

Forum: If each player is accountable for their actions and plays by earning or losing a point they will become better ball players.

Feger: Players on the team in service, have the responsibility of securing the scoring advantages for their team. Players on the receiving team try to win service for their team for the scoring advantages of the serve, have no less an important objective. When teams understand that a set or game cannot be won without service, the importance of their individual skills and teamwork takes on more difficult and different tactical purposes.

Forum: Serving is a basic skill and I can understand an error if trying for placement or an advanced serves, but getting it over the net should not be an issue.

Feger: The serve is the catalyst of this sport. It is the one competitive feature of this team net sport that separates it from other team net sports. In table tennis, the serve involves two bounces for a game to get started and at least one bounce thereafter to maintain competition. In tennis, the serve involves one bounce for the game to get started and one or two bounces to maintain competition. Volleyball doesn’t need a bounce serve or any feature associated with a sport that has a bounce serve. The rally-point scoring system and the let serve h origins of play are imbedded in the two-bounce game.

Lets take out the ping-pong plays and put the courage back into volleyball. A team must serve the ball over the net and challenge their opponents for set or game point. If you are on the service team, this is when you want your best server in action. If you are on the receiving team, this is when you want your best ball handlers in position.

Forum: To many coaches overlook the value of the serve. Rally scoring lets the outstanding servers earn their place on the court.

Feger:
I agree with the concept of incorporating offensive and defensive scoring, either team can score off the serve or during volley, but every serve need not be a point. With specific rules and under certain conditions, a penalty would be awarded for a bad serve.

I’m not a person to defend the side-out rules of play, But the side-out server had an immense responsibility to his teammates and their effort for winning a game. If a team in a game of side-out volleyball lost the serve, they give up the scoring advantage and the possibility of winning a set or game.

And, there is absolutely no reason why the service team of either system of play should not have set or game closure.

Once again, remarks that rally-point scoring makes better volleyball players, sound like a rote response. It isn’t a logical conclusion based on facts and its something that seems to have been memorized as a “learned knee jerk” reaction to avoid producing empirical evidence and clarification.

It is a well known fact, that the Federation International de Volleyball (FIVB), the world governing body of volleyball, did not develope or introduce offensive and defensive scoring in volleyball. In Canada, officials and coaches are arguing for service team closure under rally point scoring. And, in Arizona, a women's league is experimenting with two point backcourt scoring. It sounds and feels like Rocball is in the making to me.
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:52 PM   #8
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Fanians top regular season

Veteran team Fanians topped the regular season of the 2009-2010 World Organized Rocball Community League with a 6-1 win-loss record.

Rookie team Kagman Projects gave a good account of itself in its maiden year in Rocball, coming in at second place after the eliminations with a 5-2 record.

Third place was a two-way tie between One Way and No Mercy as they both finished with identical 4-3 cards.

Ghasias Brothers, Soul Rebels, and Islanders, meanwhile, crowd themselves in fourth place with their 3-4 slates.

Rocball creator James Feger said only Fanians and Kagman Projects have slotted themselves for the playoffs with One Way and No Mercy needing a play-in game to determine third place.

The loser will then take on Ghasias Brothers with the winner playing the victor of the Soul Brothers-Islanders encounter for the fourth and final playoff spot,

In the Final Four, Fanians will be the top seed and will duke it out with the fourth place team, while Kagman Projects is the second seed and will square off against the third place team.

The winner of the semifinals will then play in the best-of-five championship for the 2009-2010 World Organized Rocball Community League diadem.

Playoffs will start in January after the outdoor version of Rocball at the Pacific Islands Club set from Jan. 1 to 3, 2010.

In other Rocball news, three players earned Master Blaster status for the season-Ben Lisua and John Nekaifes of Soul Brothers and Myron Laniyo of No Mercy.

Feger said the trio distinguished themselves after registering all five of Rocball's heavy hitting, multiple-scoring techniques.

Laniyo went on to average 22 points in heavy hits per game. Ben Pelisamen of Ghasias Brothers, for his part, scored a whopping eight goals for the season, which translated to an average of a goal a game.

Feger said the 2009-2010 season is also memorable because of how well Kagman Projects players have adopted to Rocball rules.

Kagman Projects are made up of volleyball players that helped Kagman High School win the inter-scholastic volleyball championship.

“The first-year Rocball players have learned well the rules of Saipan's indigenous sport and in the process stunned players and teams with their amazing come-from-behind victories and overtime wins,” he said

The Rocball SandBlaster Tournament will usher in the sport in 2010 and Feger is inviting Rocball and volleyball players alike for the competition.

There will be no entrance fee in the SandBlaster Tournament for teams that have at least one registered Rocball player. But those who don't have a Rocball player need to pony up $25. (Saipan Tribune)
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Did the league go out of business? I hope not. Ben sounded like a hell of a Rocballer. A real jammin' mofo.
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Rocball is el and fine. Started our second season of the year this week and have been busy with the new Rocball Federation of India. I''l be posting soon. Thanks for the interest.
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High school Rocball starts today; community league underway
FRIDAY, JANUARY 21, 2011 12:00AM BY CHRISTIAN V. CRUZ - FOR VARIETY

TODAY marks day one of the high school Rocball league’s regular season, as six teams vie for the top spot.

The Kingz are this semester’s defending champions, taking on teams Krownerz, Fly High, Underdog, Chiefs, and Watch Ur Face.

The Kingz trumped Yo Face in last month’s best-of-five finals series. They will play Watch Ur Face today, 12:45 p.m. at Marianas High School’s gymnasium. Games will take place every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday during MHS’ lunch time.

Other scheduled matches include Krownerz vs. Chiefs (Monday, Jan. 24) and Fly High vs. Underdog (Wednesday Jan. 26).

To prepare for their match, high school Rocball participants held practice sessions with community league players last Wednesday. During their ‘clinic’ as Rocball coordinator Jim Feger calls it, community league players assist their younger counterparts with the sport’s rules and basics.
“As for the community league, right now we’re still trying to found out which teams will join,” added Feger.

After gaining interest in the sport, India adopted Rocball last November. The Rocball Federation of India, established by Chetan Sports’ Chetan Pagawad, is currently forming teams across the country.
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Good to hear, seriously. It'd been about 10 months. Just making sure you're still alive and kickin'.
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Good to hear, seriously. It'd been about 10 months. Just making sure you're still alive and kickin'.
Good to hear also, James

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Friday, February 18, 2011 12:00AM By James Feger - For Variety

TWO undefeated Rocball teams met on court last Wednesday. The Kingz – 2010 defending champions – and team Fly High, a combination of last year’s players.

As what could be expected, the game between the undefeated was decided in overtime.

The Fly Highs came loaded with energy as they outscored the defending champs, 16-4 and 16-3 in the first two sets. They held their commanding lead in the final set with 32 points.

The Kingz – all veteran Rocball players – know the rules of the game. A team can’t claim the game in a losing set regardless of game points. The Kingz needed to win the last set and force the game to overtime.

By the third set, Fly High led 7-5 after the Kingz failed two serves and lost two points. Kingz’ Ben Olopai served a xunk and dropped the Fly Highs to even out the score, 5-5. Olopai served for a two-point ace, putting his team ahead for the first time.

The Fly Highs couldn’t break their foes’ rhythm and lost. Because they had the most game points at the end of regular play, they had to win only one more overtime set. The Kingz needed two.

In almost no time, Fly High defeated the Kingz and handed them their first loss of the season with a 7-5 win. (Teams must score seven points or make a goal in the overtime set of high school Rocball.)

Yesterday, the Kingz and Fly Highs played an exhibition game for visiting Seisa High School students from Yokohama, Japan. This year marks the 25th year for the Cultural and Sports Exchange Program between Seisa and Marianas High School. This also marked the 25th year MHS students have played Rocball as a part of the program. Seisa and MHS students played yesterday,
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Fly High leads Rocball Final Four cast

By Roselyn Monroyo
Reporter Saipan Tribune

Fly High and three others made it to the semifinals of the 2011 Rocball High School Spring League after last week's games at the Marianas High School Gymnasium.

Fly High clinched the first semis ticket after a 48-34 victory over Watch Ur Face last Friday. The win was fifth in as many games for Fly High, while Watch Ur Face bowed out of the competition with a dismal 1-4 record in the round-robin regular season

Ryan Ichihara led Fly High's sweep with his 11 points off two kees, one xunk, one ace, and one goal.

Joining Fly High in the semifinals were Kingz, Krowners, and the Chiefs.

The Kingz also played last Friday and juiced out Krowners in three sets, 33-26. The victory put the Kingz in second place in the team standings with its 4-1 slate.

Despite the loss, Krowners still advanced to the next round, as their 3-2 record was enough for a share of third place with the Chiefs. Jason Limes led Kingz' winning cause with his nine points off two aces, one kee, and one goal.

The Chiefs saved their season after surviving the Underdogs, 32-31. The Chiefs lost the first two sets, 15-14, 15-8, to fall behind, 22-30. In the third set, the Chiefs must win by nine point to steal the game and they succeeded, 10-1, to foil the Underdogs' upset bid.

In Rocball, a win can only be awarded to the team that prevails in the last set and has the lead. If the leading team loses the last set, the game goes in overtime with the trailing squad needing to win two sets and the former prevailing in only one set.

With the win, the Chiefs were given the No. 3 seeding in the semifinals and are scheduled to play the second-ranked Kingz in Game 1 of their best-of-three series today. The other semis pairing are No. 1 seed Fly High and fourth-ranked Krowners, who played Game 1 of their own semis series yesterday. Winners of the semifinals series will advance to the best-of-five title affair.
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