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Old 11-12-2002, 04:23 PM   #1
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Exclamation To Tom Brady

Valley of Death

Yeah, so I walk into this valley of death
I don't fear
so its a pain path down thru here
I don't scare
I sharpen blades of life inside
to slash my way thru the walls of dark weeds
blocking the light out of this world
many years away
its far - far from where I stand
I walk
I move
I have loads of spirit pushing out
driving my fate deep up the throat of this valley of death
eating the light out of this world

minute by minute
I die some here
moment to moment
I kill more fear
step by step
I see light clear

Yeah, so I bleed thru this valley of death
I can heal
so its a wild hard time up out of here
I can climb
I grab the stuff of life inside
to spread my path with signs of me
echoing the light out of this world
just breaths away
so close - close to where I am
I feel
I reach
I have tons of visions pouring in
pulling me from flowering down in this valley of death
living in the light out of this world

minute by minute
I died back there
moment to moment
I killed the fear
step by step
I reached light here

WELCOME TO OAKLAND!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-12-2002, 04:56 PM   #2
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If you're saying that T. Brady will have a most unpleasant Sunday night in Oakland, I am in total agreement.

Hmmmmm..............

52-3 sounds about right.
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Old 11-12-2002, 05:17 PM   #3
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Why do Raider fans have to be so strange? And better yet unrealistic as well? Ok, I also think the Raiders are better, but 52-3....your not playing the weak Titans this time! I am sure your just exaggerating the score there......and to the poet guy, try to tone down your deep poems.....us rednecks down here have a hard time comprehending the meaning you know?

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Old 11-12-2002, 05:59 PM   #4
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Time to wake up, buddy. 52-3? Please. The Raiders have one of the worst passing defenses in the league and with the way the Pats run their offense, they should have no problem keeping the Raiders offense off the field for extended periods of time. Brady will have no problem picking apart the Raiders 'D'. And when the Raiders offense is on the field, there's absolutely no way they're going to put up 52 points on the leagues second rated pass defense. And sure, you can argue all you want about the Pats soft run D, but how will the Raiders be able to take advantage of that when they never run the ball?

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Patriots: 27
Raiders: 20
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Old 11-12-2002, 06:16 PM   #5
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I ain't going to gurantee the Raiders will win, but the Patriots chances are kind of slim... They're at Oakland, and the fans will go all over Mr. Brady and his Patriots (I might be one of them their), going back to the Snow Bowl. And the Raiders DOES NOT have the worse passing defense, and they proved it last night!! They COULD run the ball, Garner leads the league in yards per carry for starting RB.

(A tip for Tom: When you score a TD, do not get so excited and jump into the crowd full of people in the right endzone that's known as the "Black Hole", you might get sucked in and never get out...)
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Old 11-12-2002, 06:24 PM   #6
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I ain't going to gurantee the Raiders will win, but the Patriots chances are kind of slim... They're at Oakland, and the fans will go all over Mr. Brady and his Patriots (I might be one of them their), going back to the Snow Bowl. And the Raiders DOES NOT have the worse passing defense, and they proved it last night!! They COULD run the ball, Garner leads the league in yards per carry for starting RB.

(A tip for Tom: When you score a TD, do not get so excited and jump into the crowd full of people in the right endzone that's known as the "Black Hole", you might get sucked in and never get out...)
You act like Brady has never played an away game in his life. I don't think a bunch of people swearing and yelling at him will have too much of an effect on him or any other Patriot; just like it would have no effect on any of the Raiders if the game was at Gillette. That type of thing happens every week at stadiums all around the NFL. Players feed off of it.

And you're right, the Raiders don't have the worst pass defense in the league. Only the 27th.
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Old 11-12-2002, 07:01 PM   #7
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Damn straight I'm right!

What you talking about? Remember during the 1st half of last night's game, the crowd was going all over the Raiders at Denver, it was so loud that he needs to take a timeout in order set the play up.
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Old 11-12-2002, 08:35 PM   #8
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Old 11-12-2002, 08:41 PM   #9
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Damn straight I'm right!
Yes; in that the Raiders don't have the worst passing defense in the league. 27 out of 32 gives them ONE of the worst, which is what I originally said.

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What you talking about? Remember during the 1st half of last night's game, the crowd was going all over the Raiders at Denver, it was so loud that he needs to take a timeout in order set the play up.
What am I talking about? I think the question is; what are YOU talking about? That type of thing happens all the time in the NFL.
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Old 11-12-2002, 08:44 PM   #10
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Oakland may beat New England, but please don't put all your marbles on Oakland because they won their first game in five tries lol
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Old 11-13-2002, 02:19 AM   #11
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What am I talking about? I think the question is; what are YOU talking about? That type of thing happens all the time in the NFL.
Yeah and you say the fans won't be a problem with the Patriots, come on, if the Denver fans can make Gannon call a timeout, what do you think the home of the NFL's craziest fans will do to Brady?
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Old 11-13-2002, 02:41 AM   #12
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Yeah, on second thought, 52-3 may be a bit harsh, boston-spunk-fan.

Oakland will certainly jam the pill down the gullet of the limp-wristed patsie defense repeatedly, there by chewing up the clock and reducing the number of possessions in the game.

Fewer possessions = less gleeful Raider jaunts to the end zone = fewer Raider points.

See how that works?

With all that in mind, will 45-3 work for you?

From your point of view I am very sad to say that wimping out and simply phoning in a DEFAULT to King Paulie Tags is NOT an option here.

*chuckle*

No, no, no.....you gots ta go on the field and takes yer medicine like good little bo.....err.....GIRLS.

http://images.eyewire.com/dspl/dv/ph...4/377005-1.jpg

*gulp*

Third straight roadie for the ALL-AMERICANS does not bode well.......AT ALL.

Oh yes sir reeeeeee bob, make no mistake, a major league ASS TORCHING is coming your way.

This has been your storm warning.

Take cover.

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Old 11-13-2002, 02:47 AM   #13
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I hope the results will be 52-3 or 45-3, I hope.

But it's unlikely since all Tom Brady's fumbles will be ruled incomplete passes.
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Old 11-13-2002, 12:35 PM   #14
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Well I'm a die hard Pats fan and I doubt there will be a blow out either way. I think its gonna come down to who wants it more, the Pats are gonna come out swinging cuz they know they got lucky last week, the Raiders I dont think will play with as much urgency coming off a huge win against the Broncos. I'm gonna go 24-17 Pats. I think special teams is gonna play a big part in this one.
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Old 11-13-2002, 12:51 PM   #15
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Well I'm a die hard Pats fan and I doubt there will be a blow out either way. I think its gonna come down to who wants it more, the Pats are gonna come out swinging cuz they know they got lucky last week, the Raiders I dont think will play with as much urgency coming off a huge win against the Broncos. I'm gonna go 24-17 Pats. I think special teams is gonna play a big part in this one.
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