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Old 11-09-2009, 11:56 PM   #1
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1. Ricky, if you read this, please log on and check your private messages. I hope that you still lurk around here.

2. On the animal debate (I briefly read the comments and article), other animals lack the conceptual scheme that humans do. Luckily, humans are members of a linguistic community that uses a very sophisticated language.

I read Chomsky say somewhere that some animals are estimated to have a higher IQ humans. The only thing they lack that holds them back is a sophisticated conceptual scheme. (I'd suggest reading McDowell on this; Mind and World has a whole section dedicated to this.)

Does this make humans better than animals? I'd need a better definition of better. But I do sympathize PETA to some extent. Even if animals don't have a concept of pain, life, or death, I think it's fairly easy to say that they do feel pain-- even if they can't conceptualize it.

Saying that it's okay to kill animals is like saying it's okay to kill retarded people-- both lack the conceptual capacities of normal human beings. (Note: They still receive the same sense data as normal human beings.) The latter happens to be less palatable than the former, but to take a leap to one is to take a leap to both.

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Bertrand Russell looks like an old Sherlock Holmes.

4. On Message Boards:
I'm really starting to feel that the message board is dead. The only message boards that seem to still be thriving are ones that have a niche topic that attract a group that can't find anyone else in the real world to talk about that niche group with. (Or, in the case of porn, need anonymity to talk about their topic.)

Places like ESPN and Gridiron may still do fairly well (I haven't been on either in a long time), but they tend to have an audience that talks about more topical things (like specific teams).
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4. On Message Boards:
I'm really starting to feel that the message board is dead. The only message boards that seem to still be thriving are ones that have a niche topic that attract a group that can't find anyone else in the real world to talk about that niche group with. (Or, in the case of porn, need anonymity to talk about their topic.)

Places like ESPN and Gridiron may still do fairly well (I haven't been on either in a long time), but they tend to have an audience that talks about more topical things (like specific teams).
Point taken. I think social media has taken a lot out of old-fashioned message boards. I personally check things like Twitter and Facebook more than message boards. I only frequent a few message boards these days; I used to spend a lot more time years ago.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:02 AM   #3
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Nice to see you pop back in again, ellis...

On point 4: I think you're mostly right. Honestly, as much as I love SCMB, I find it easier to post at message boards specifically designated to the teams I follow. I sometimes find it hard to talk generally about a sport and I know no one else here feels as strongly about the White Sox as I do, for example.
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On point 4: I think you're mostly right. Honestly, as much as I love SCMB, I find it easier to post at message boards specifically designated to the teams I follow. I sometimes find it hard to talk generally about a sport and I know no one else here feels as strongly about the White Sox as I do, for example.
That might be a major flaw. For a broad, general forum concept to work, you need it to be really popular so every fan of a team can talk with other fans of said team. But when everyone has a different team, it can be a downside. Though, come to think of it, it can also be a good thing. If everyone has a different perspective from a different team, discussions can be less biased from one team viewpoint...

I think forums work best as help sites. They can be very helpful when people use them to solve problems, i.e. tech help or something where there is a steady stream of questions. Here, it's just opinions...
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:32 PM   #5
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Well, it is a catch-22 really. Having different forums for individual teams does not work well if you only have one or two fans per team who frequent the site, but, having a forum for each team could attract more traffic and vice versa where people do not hang out there because there are no forums for their specific teams.
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