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Old 12-18-2005, 10:35 PM   #16
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Make no mistake, if the Heat don't win the championship they are utter failures. And quite frankly, I don't like their chances. (did I just say quite frankly????)
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:54 PM   #17
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Sorry, but the Heat suck. It was a bad move to dismantle the team that was a game from the Finals last year. And to make matters worse, they added the wrong kind of players you need to win. It's just a bad combination. The Pistons will easily mow them over, and probably the Pacers, too. 18-3 and better than ever. It's going to be Spurs/Pistons again, IMO.

I agree. Riley made terrible offseason moves to acquire both Jason Williams and Antoine Walker.. with the latter being the worse of the two. James Posey was an excellent addition, however, he's just not playing up to par.

They should have just kept things intact -- it was working wasnt it?
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:45 AM   #18
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Shaq + Wade + Riley = championship, barring injuries. Shaq's notorious for only showing up when it counts, but when he does show up- look out.

Obviously, most of you don't think the Heat will do as well as I predict, but I'm happy with my prediction.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:10 AM   #19
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da12ken...

Agreed on the complete failures theory. Thing is, no one knows that more than Riley. That's why this whole thing might work after all. He's old school: there's winning and failure, no middle ground.

Anyone been watching these Riley post-game interviews? Man, the ego on this guy...LOL. Nothing you can say really though...he'll just throw one of his championship banners over your head and kick your butt.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:59 PM   #20
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Shaq + Wade + Riley = championship, barring injuries. Shaq's notorious for only showing up when it counts, but when he does show up- look out.
I definetely think I overrated this Miami team too, but I'll save any real further analysis on them until after the All Star break. But right now, there's no way they can beat Detroit in a 7 game series. No Way. But the funny thing is that even with their highly mediocre record so far, the new three-division playoff seeding system probably already makes them a lock for 2 seed because of a horrible Atlantic Division and not much competition coming from the SouthEast either.

And it's also really stupid that either Indy or Cleveland is going to be a 4 seed when Philly is the number 3 with homecourt advantage. This new system is David Stern's worst move in years if you ask me.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:33 PM   #21
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It is not necessarily a 'new system' it is done the same in all of the other major sports leagues. Division winners always get home field/court over non-division winners in the playoffs. He is merely doing what the other leagues do.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:49 PM   #22
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Shaq + Wade + Riley = championship, barring injuries. Shaq's notorious for only showing up when it counts, but when he does show up- look out.

Obviously, most of you don't think the Heat will do as well as I predict, but I'm happy with my prediction.
Well if Shaq does show up, it is only for one quarter. In LA, it was the same. Dominates for one quarter and slows down. In Miami it was the same, dominate the likes of the Wizards and Nets for one quarter, and slows down.

Granted, sometimes one dominating quarter is all they need, but this team doesn't have the same feeling like last year. Shaq was much more into winning and sticking it to the Lakers. This year, getting his contract and teammates, he is much more laid back.

And defensively, Payton and Jason Williams was much worse than last years point guards. At least Keyon Dooling can step in and stay in front of someone, neither of those two can.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:14 PM   #23
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Everytime I see Jason Williams play hes constantly trying to make plays by himself, and he hasnt been too successful.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:45 PM   #24
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I agree that Payton and Walker were bad additions but the thing i do like about the Heat is Alonzo Mourning....seeing him play takes me back to the good ole days of Michael Jordan....
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:06 AM   #25
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Alonzo Mouring and Michael Jordan in the same sentence? Do they both like puppies and long walks on the beach? Otherwise, I hope this isn't some kind of basketball comparison (in terms of talent or otherwise).

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MJ Haters still exist?
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