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Oakland A's 3 27.27%
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Old 04-08-2002, 09:04 PM   #16
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Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, Barry Zito. Gotta give it to the A's. They're young AND good. I just hope they stick around long enough to bring a pennant.
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Old 04-08-2002, 09:26 PM   #17
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they are definetly good enough to win a pennant...as long as they and the Oakland offense stays healthy.
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Old 04-09-2002, 03:03 PM   #18
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I voted for Oakland (Hudson, Zito, Mulder) because they are young and could get even better. The Yankees are getting long in the tooth although Mussina is still one of the top pitchers in baseball. The Braves lost Smoltz to the bullpen so we will have to wait and see how Marquis and Moss perform to evaluate their staff. The D-Backs have an incredible 1-2 but I like to go with 3 pitchers and Brian Anderson is too inconsistent. The Cardinals have a good top to bottom rotation and Morris is very good. Also the Twins with Radke, Milton, and Mays are pretty good.
Supposedly the Reds have a good bullpen, but it has been poor so far. The Braves oddly enough have a good bullpen this year with Reed, Remlinger, Lightenberg, and Smoltz.
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Old 04-09-2002, 05:00 PM   #19
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The D-Backs have an incredible 1-2 but I like to go with 3 pitchers and Brian Anderson is too inconsistent.
The D-Backs number 3 guy is Todd Stottlemyre. He was injured all of last season, so it is a question how he will perform this season (making his first start of the season today, against my Padres). He's not much better than Anderson, though he's prolly better then most team's number 3 guy.
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Old 04-09-2002, 08:59 PM   #20
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The A's will win the World Series this season. I can put up a good argument for it.
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Old 04-09-2002, 10:23 PM   #21
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What kind of narcotics are you on? lol Seriously please compare each player from the A's to the Yankee players. See what that equation says or compare Oakland to each Mariner player. I agree they have a great pitching staff, but they must have have some great hitting too.
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Old 04-10-2002, 01:42 AM   #22
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Keith don't go there...

I will compare them... and your hunch is right, the Yankees have a superior roster. However, last year, when the Yankees beat the A's, the A's had a significantly better roster offensively and defensively.

As Rob Neyer from ESPN says, anything can happen in short series.

The comparo (NY player listed first):

C:

Posada & Hernandez - Advantage Posada (bairly, lots of experts are predicting big things from Hernandez and are saying this could be his breakout year.)

1B:

Giambi & Pena - Advantage Giambi, while Jason has a clear advantage - that advantage isn't as big as you might think and Pena is clearly the better defensive player.

2B:

Soriano & Menechino - Advantage Soriano

SS:

Jeter & Tejada - Adv. Jeter, like the commentary on the catchers' postion, the gap isn't as big as most east-coasters might think.

3B:

Ventura & Chavez - Hude advatage for Chavez. Someone (Billy Beane?) said he could be the next Barry Bonds... Take it with a grain of salt, but Beane isn't know for hyperbole.

OF/DH (I'll compare each team's best):

Williams & Justice - I'll give the nod to Bernie, b/c he's younger, a switch-hitter, and plays a solid CF.

White & Dye (Dye should be compared to Bernie above, but since he is guarrenteed to miss a month+ he drops into the 2nd slot) - Adv. Dye, White will miss at least this much time and is not quite the hitter Dye is nor anywhere near the defender.

Spencer & Giambi - Adv. Giambi, sure Shane's the better defender, but with Jeremy's .400+ OBP, even Torre would find a place in the lineup for Giambi's bat.

Johnson & Long - Adv. Johnson - same arguement as previous just switch the teams' players.

Starting Pitchers:

Mussina & Hudson - toss-up, Yes, Yankees fans, Tim's that good.

Clemons & Zito - Adv. Zito, compare today's Zito to Clemmens circa 1990 and it's a different story...

Pettitte & Mulder - Adv. Mulder. Pettitte walks too many, and has an ERA the hoovers too close to 4.00 in a pitcher's park to be thought of as better than Mark.

Hernandez & Lidle - comparable, but with Lidle's youth, I give him the slightest edge.

Wells/Hitchcock & Hiljus - the Yankee hurlers are "proven veterans" and former studs, but how much is left for either? Toss-up

Closer:

Rivera & Koch - Rivera (best ever)

Closer than you thought?

7 games doesn't seem like a short series, but the best team often loses...

Are the Yankees the favorite? Yes, because of Rivera and the rest of the 'pen. But they match up better than you might think.

Here's my axiom for the season: starting pitching gets you to the playoffs. Your hitters and your bullpen bring home the hardware.
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I think you kinda stretched that a bit...i mean, who the hell is Hiljus to be a "toss up" in comparison with David Wells...same with Lidle and El Duque. Maybe these guys are young with great potential, but that doesnt make them superior (or even equal to) proven, quality players...and in Wells case, a three time all star.
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Old 04-10-2002, 07:10 PM   #24
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You have to admit the Yankees havea good staff though. They went 20 plus innings this season with giving up a run. That's pretty amazing. Plus they're always known to be good in the clutch. Just remember Jim Leyritz...
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Old 04-11-2002, 04:39 PM   #25
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Yeah I remember him...before he stabbed the Padres in the back
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Old 04-11-2002, 05:54 PM   #26
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Why not??? The Padres werent going anywhere. And Jimmy got a ring, good for him.
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Old 04-12-2002, 04:16 PM   #27
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Hiljus will be healthy all year, Wells, how many starts would u bet on? 10? 15? 20?

Thats why I called Hiljus and Wells a toss-up.
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Old 04-15-2002, 01:19 PM   #28
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I have to take back what I said about the Reds' pen. They happen to be going pretty stong now.
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Old 04-15-2002, 11:12 PM   #29
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Yankees no question about it, Id die for that pitching staff.

Clemons, Musina, El-Duke, Wells, Peditte & best closer RIVERA!
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Clemens hasn't started off too well and Pettitte is inconsistent. But I still think they have the best 5 in the game.
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