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Old 11-18-2003, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default Doc Rivers fired by sad Magic.

Full Story here.

No great shock here. The team has been really bad since the start of the season. Even with T-Mac.
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Old 11-19-2003, 12:04 AM   #2
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The greater shock is the apparent confidence in their General Manager. Give Doc nothing to work with and nothing is going to happen.

They have T-Mac and....T-Mac....and T-Mac seems to only play when he wants to, which is only going to get them so far.
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Old 11-19-2003, 11:44 AM   #3
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And to imagine that they stink in the Eastern conference. That means they are REALLY BAD! At least his team would have an excuse in the Western Conference. They are bad. And T-Mac is not a great player. T-MAC-IS-OV-ER-RA-TED!
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Old 11-19-2003, 04:36 PM   #4
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Come to New York Doc
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Old 11-19-2003, 06:23 PM   #5
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They got rid of Britten Johnson too. That guy is from my hometown..... he went to my highschool.... he came to my house for christ sake. Anyone know what they did with em?
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Old 11-20-2003, 09:20 PM   #6
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They got off to a rough start. Having Gilicik or w/e his name is hurt and Grant Hill being a bust he didn't have much talent to work with. T-Mac is the "Orlando Magic". If he was a better defencive player they might have a better chance.
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Old 11-21-2003, 06:32 PM   #7
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I think the Magic are more talented than people give them credit for. I may be crazy, but Drew Gooden and Juwan Howard are pretty capable NBA starters. What they lack is a PG, and I don't know if drafting Reece Gaines, who is not a true PG, was a smart move.
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Old 11-22-2003, 01:38 PM   #8
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Living just outside of Orlando, I get to see all of the Magic games and to tell you the truth, they aren't that bad. This year's Magic team may be one of the best 1-12 teams in the history of the NBA. Last season I saw Drew Gooden and Gordan Giricek, both rookies at the time, help lead the Magic down the stretch and almost to a first round upset over the #1 seeded Pistons. The injury of 3-point shooter Pat Garrity and the absence of the team's emotional leader, Darrel Armstrong are HUGE losses. Juwan Howard and Tyronn Lue were key additions, but the team is just under achieving right now. Doc Rivers was a scape goat, the GM, as was said earlier, never gave Rivers the players needed to advance in the playoffs. I think that when the Magic come home from this west coast swing they are on, you will start seeing more and more wins.
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Mike Lovecchio, welcome! :wavey: We need a Magic fan here, so stick around. And it's great to have an eSports writer here, as well.
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Old 11-25-2003, 01:14 PM   #10
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I agree with the firing and the firing of the Bulls coach.
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Old 11-29-2003, 02:24 PM   #11
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McGrady would've been a lot happier had he stayed in Toronto.... don't really feel sorry for him or their team. I hope he likes being the one-man show down there and still losing every night.
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McGrady would've been a lot happier had he stayed in Toronto.... don't really feel sorry for him or their team. I hope he likes being the one-man show down there and still losing every night.
He's led his team to the playoffs the last few years, something Carter can't claim (yes, I know he was injured, and I know he led them before he was, but that was when T-Mac was there, so it's a moot point). So Raptors fans will always hate T-Mac ... get over it. You just wish he stayed for your team's sake, not his!
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Old 11-30-2003, 02:05 AM   #13
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Marc, i don't think you get it.

How can Vince Carter lead the Raptors to the playoffs when he was injured? VC took the Raptors ONE INCH away from the Eastern finals in 2001 without Me-Mac, so I don't know what you mean when you say "T-Mac was there". 2001 was the Raptors greatest run and it was headlined by Vince Carter, while Me-Mac hit the links after the first round.

Now that Vince is healthy, who exactly is the better player now?

VC's 8-8 Raptors, compared to Me-Mac's 1-15 Magic. Hmmmmm...

And Vince does this all with the WORST offense in the league, yet he's gathered his team to a .500 record. T-Mac could have won something if he stayed in Toronto, but oh well, it's been talked about a billion times before. Same with this topic, but when people want to bring it up you have to remind them.

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LOL, hahahahhahahahahaha.... I had forgotten about this thread, so I went back to see if there were any replies to my post.... but... hahahahah, "Me-Mac" :lol: ...never heard that one before. You made my day, Brian.

And ya, Mr.Me.Mac has led the Magic to Round ONE many times... but the Raptors, with Vince in the line-up, have improved each year they've been there.

And... ummm... Marc, you missed the period of time from 2000-2002 period, when Mr.Me.Mac was NOT in Toronto and Carter was NOT injured, and the Raptors had their best postseason ever... so it's not a "moot" point.
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Old 12-07-2003, 10:23 AM   #15
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19 straight now.....


But on a another note, how do conditional draft picks work??? Did the Raptors already get it from the McGrady sign-'n-trade deal?? And if not, is it possible for Toronto to get the #1 overall pick this year the way things are going for Orlando??
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