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Old 11-08-2006, 08:53 AM   #16
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Webb apparently pulled ahead of Allen late. FOX is calling it for Webb...
Yeah... all the leftists won last night...even Daniel Ortega won... a complete leftist liberal coup... a bad night for America...

The only good thing in yesterday's results that I can see is that hopefully, by letting the leftist liberals win now, America will see their true colors by the 2008 election to return to normalcy then...

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Old 11-08-2006, 09:45 AM   #17
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The only good thing in yesterday's results that I can see is that hopefully, by letting the leftist liberals win now, America will see their true colors by the 2008 election to return to normalcy then...
The democrats cast their net extremely wide for this election, a vast changed from 2004. McCain is already talking about the Republicans regrouping, and if they do, this could be possible. But, if they run like the democrats did in 2004, cocky and gung ho on the big issue, they might run into the same problems the democrats did in 2004.
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Old 11-08-2006, 10:13 AM   #18
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The only good thing in yesterday's results that I can see is that hopefully, by letting the leftist liberals win now, America will see their true colors by the 2008 election to return to normalcy then...
Always looking at the glass as half full, huh?



Although unlikely, if Hillary Clinton were to get elected President in 2008, and then Jeb Bush follows her into office, our countries list of Presidents will have gone:

Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush.

God Bless America!
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:48 AM   #19
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Now its up to the Democrats to actually do something with their majority. The last time they were in control of anything in Washington, it resulted in nearly nothing being done -- Senate, 2001-3. The result of that strategy was the defeat of the Senate Majority leader.
I congratulate the Democrats on running a superior campaign and hope that they will do something to move the country forward.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:25 PM   #20
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This was a pretty surprising election IMO.

Minimum wage was on the ballot in 6 states and got raised in all of 'em.

Affirmative action restrictions passed in Michigan...a blow to mainstream liberals.

South Dakota voted against the toughest anti-abortion legislation we've ever seen.

Dems took control of The House and perhaps The Senate.

Gay marriage was on the ballot in 8 states. "Traditional" marriage prevailed in 7 states but check the numbers out...

1. Virginia...57%...Simply amazing. Virginia is still the heart of the Confederacy. Only 57% were against it? Shocking.

2. Colorado...53%...Another amazing. Colorado is considered the "Confederate state of the West."

3. Idaho...63%

4. South Carolina...78%...expected.

5. Tennessee...81%...expected

6. South Dakota...52%

7. Wisconsin...59%...disappointing for an urbanized Union state esp. with the effort put in by the interest groups up there.

I believe Arizona said "No" to the ban with 51%. I'm not sure if that is official though.

Ohio and Pennsylvania also went left in many races (including governor and Senate)...a good development for the Dems in 2008 as they are the key northern states. Perhaps the Republicans in the southern and western parts of Ohio and in central PA are tired of the right. I'm assuming on ethical issues but really don't know.

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Old 11-08-2006, 04:28 PM   #21
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I believe only the recount in Virginia is standing between the Dems controlling the Senate, and Webb (D) has an 8,000-vote lead. In other words, mark it down as a sweep for the Dems. And I think it's just a preview of 2008.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:36 PM   #22
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Yeah...that's the way things look right now Marc.

Other notes...

Cheney fired Rumsfeld.

The Confederacy nearly elected their first African-American Senator since Reconstruction but Henry Ford (D) of Tennessee was narrowly defeated.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:42 PM   #23
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And Arnold won in a landslide, which is surprising because this was an election dominated by the Dems. Neither he nor Bush can speak English, but at least Arnold seems competent. I winced watching Bush's press conference today. I think Bush has a crush of David Gregory...
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:45 PM   #24
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And Arnold won in a landslide, which is surprising because this was an election dominated by the Dems. Neither he nor Bush can speak English, but at least Arnold seems competent. I winced watching Bush's press conference today. I think Bush has a crush of David Gregory...
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Actually Gregory and Bush don't get along very well so that explains the bantar.

Arnold is left on many social issues and came along when Californians desperately needed a Goldwater Repubublican on finances. Whether he's lived up to those stereotypes is up for debate but that is the perception and reason why he's done well IMO.
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I really don't like the politicians in either party right now, but thank god that America has steered away from Conservatism.
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I think one reason why I like Arnold is we are similar politically. In other words, we are not traditional liberals or conservatives. I am very liberal in some areas, and conservative in others. Arnold seems to be the same way, which makes him appealing to more people. He added a democrat as a top aid a while back when he realized his approval rating was dropping, and now he's popular again.

Ellis, we were never governed by conservatives to begin with. The Bush administration talked the talk, but ended up spending worse than democrats and as a result, our deficit is through the roof with only future generations having to pay the price.
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Old 11-08-2006, 04:52 PM   #27
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I really don't like the politicians in either party right now, but thank god that America has steered away from Conservatism.
I wouldn't go that far Ellis. Many races were decided by "ethics" and it just happens the conservatives got caught with their hands in the cookie jar this time around...esp. in Ohio (coin scandal, Taft convicted). The ethical issues in most of these cases were beyond your typical Democratic indiscretions (sex with legal chicks). That was the main problem as I see it.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:39 AM   #28
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Ellis, did you notice the Democrats that won elections yesterday? Most of them would be considered moderate to conservative, politically. Nobody really liberal was elected for the first time.
Conservatism is not dead, nor will it be any time soon.
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Ellis, did you notice the Democrats that won elections yesterday? Most of them would be considered moderate to conservative, politically.
Agreed. The Dems fielded only disallusioned conservative candidates or moderate Dems. Good campaign strategy actually. But the Dem party is still controlled from the hard left...

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Nobody really liberal was elected for the first time.
No but a Socialist took the reins...Gay Bernie in the Green Mountains.

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Conservatism is not dead, nor will it be any time soon.
The Liberalism Democrats will bring will simply rehabilitate the GOP for the 2008 elections; perhaps it is good thing that America gets a brief taste of it. Winning elections is a new thing for Dems. I simply believe that Pelosi and company are the enema that is needed by the nation; the best advertisement and campaign commericial for John Mccaine, Newt Gingrinch, and Jeb Bush in 2008 is Pelosi's San Francisan liberalism on display now...
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Not sure I'd include McCain in the "conservative" ranks. He is a bit to my left and I'm a centerist.
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