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Old 06-22-2004, 02:01 AM   #1
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I guess I'll post the greatest basketball player ever thread for the heck of it. So go ahead and put your guy up and why he's the best ( and could someone on here please pick a player other then Jordan to make this atleast somewhat interesting ).
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Old 06-22-2004, 02:11 AM   #2
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I guess I'll post the greatest basketball player ever thread for the heck of it. So go ahead and put your guy up and why he's the best ( and could someone on here please pick a player other then Jordan to make this atleast somewhat interesting ).
But, it is Michael Jordan, and if anyone has anything else to say about anyone else I will gladly debate them about it.
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But, it is Michael Jordan, and if anyone has anything else to say about anyone else I will gladly debate them about it.
That already makes two of us.

While there have been many great players throughout the history of the NBA and basketball, nobody has been like MJ. Nobody.
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Dr. J. He revolutionized the game more than any other player that ever stepped on the court. That is why Julius Erving is the best player ever.
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Michael Jordan revolutionized the game as well...but revolutionizing the game alone doesn't make one the greatest basketball player ever. It's what happens on the court that is most important. Six rings and six playoff MVP's speaks for itself.
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Ok, this isn't going according to plan...LOL. Where's Tarkus on this one BTW? Anyway, I knew almost everyone on here would pick Jordan, so I was hoping someone could pick another great to make things interesting. Guys, basketball wasn't invented in 1991, and I know I may be senile in my old age compared to you youngsters, but believe it or not, life did exist before Jordan and there were some pretty " decent" hoop stars too.

Ellis picks Dr. J., a solid choice. And I'll put The Doctor's case up for everyone...

Dr. J. came out of UMASS, averaging 27 points and 19 boards a game as a JUNIOR. He played 5 seasons in the ABA, dominating the upstart league during his time there winning 3 MVP awards, 2 ABA Titles,and 2 playoff MVP awards. He also led the ABA in scoring 3 times in his 5 year reign there, averaging nearly 32 points and 22 rebounds in only his second year ! Don't be fooled into thinking the ABA was a lesser league. Guys like Billy Cunningham, Mel Daniels, Connie Hawkins, and George McGinnis all got their start there. The league was NEARLY as solid as the NBA on the talent front.

Dr. J. moved to the Sixers after the ABA folded, leading the Sixers to 4 Eastern Conference Championships and 1 NBA Championship. Along with Boston and L.A., the Sixers were a dominate team during the first half of the 80s under Dr. J. Every year, the Celtics and Sixers would battle to see who got to play mostly L.A. in the Finals. Considering the toughness and height of the NBA at this time, winning 3 Eastern Conference titles and 1 NBA Championship would be the equivalent of winning 5 to 6 straight NBA Titles today, IMO. He was NBA MVP in 1981 and was a first team all star 5 times.

Well over 30,000 career points, a FG% ABOVE 50%, over 11,000 career rebounds and 5,000 assists, Dr. J's place as the most versatile and most dominate rebounding small forward in basketball history is quite secure. His electryfing dunks, COMBINED WITH THE SOLID FUNDAMENTALS OF DRIBBLING AND SHOOTING ( a career 78% FT and 51% FG), make him the forerunner of what was to come when Jordan arrived. And while Jordan added several spectacular athletic plays to his arsenal, make no mistake, Dr. J., along with Connie Hawkins and David Thompson, gave rise to the game being played " above the rim", with The Doctor being able to incorporate the high flying style best into actual game action.

While it has been said Jordan " transcended" the sport, it is widely regarded that Dr. J. was the first to do so. And in fact, all of Dr. J.'s strides are quite positve, compared to those by Jordan. Dr. J.'s play opened up the game, while NOT compromising the fundamentals and team concept, which built the league. Dr. J. never had a " learning process" like Jordan had. Erving understood what it took to win as soon as he turned pro, while it took Jordan many long years to understand the team concept. Likewise, Dr. J. sacrificed his offensive stats GREATLY in his Sixers days to accomadate WINNING. By his unselfish attitude, he allowed Maurice Cheeks, and later Moses Malone to help him create a winner in Philadelphia immeadately.

Dr. J's popularity helped make the ABA-NBA merger possible, in fact, some would say he alone made the event a possibility. Widely considered as the game's greatest ambassador during the 70s, it was Dr. J's play that kept pro basketball viable during it's lowest point in history ( until now).

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Old 06-23-2004, 03:04 AM   #7
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Michael Jordan.... for the 1 millionth time.
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uuuuh, Michael Jordon Even if you tell me to leave Jordon out, it's still Jordan.
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Another vote for Jordan.
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Old 06-23-2004, 03:29 PM   #11
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Guys, basketball wasn't invented in 1991, and I know I may be senile in my old age compared to you youngsters, but believe it or not, life did exist before Jordan and there were some pretty " decent" hoop stars too.
No doubt about it.

Basketball has been around quite a long time (much before 1991, when the Bulls beat the Lakers I believe...), and like I've already said there have been some fantastic players before Michael Jordan. Bird, Kareem, Magic, Dr. J...the list goes on.

But on the other hand, basketball did continue after 1991. Jordan solidified himself as the greatest by taking a low-end franchise and building it into a dynasty, his dynasty.
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:43 PM   #12
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Old 06-23-2004, 06:24 PM   #14
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Erving invented being "airborne" and played the game "above the rim." His dunks changed basketball forever.

And oh yeah, he is also #3 on the all time scoring list.

Need I say more?
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Yeah Ellis, props to Dr J, but how many championships did he win?
It's hard to argue against the true best man: Michael Jordan.

But Buckeye can do it! Buck, I know you started this thread just waiting for the spot to jump in and present a very convincing case for your boy Magic Johnson, so go ahead! unleash...
(and by the way I got nuthin but love for Magic, I just think Jordan's the best)
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