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Old 11-23-2004, 09:22 AM   #16
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Of course it won't help Vick's cause when he freezes to death at Lincoln Financial Field in the NFC championship game on January 23rd: No domed-stadium team has ever won a conference title game outdoors, and indeed, only one such team has ever won such a game on the road anywhere (the Falcons when they won the 1998 NFC championship game in Minnesota).

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Old 11-23-2004, 01:12 PM   #17
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All I know is that if you've seen this gy play live, he would not be saying he is overrated. I was at the Giants game on Sunday. I have never seen a player move as fast as him in my life. And he broke his leg too.
Sure, he runs real nice and has a pretty throw. But that pretty throw seem's to have a problem targeting receivers, from what I saw of sundays game.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:34 PM   #18
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BIG BEN is over rated

Just has a good over all team that keeps him winning.

Doesn't put up much for #'s
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:08 PM   #19
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Who do you guys think is the most overrated player in the Nfl

Im goin with Mike Vick and im sure many people will disagree with me

Yes he can run and has a cannon but he dosent help his team as a true Qb. He jus runs around and gives us a bunch of top 10 spotscenter plays. Hes a great athlete but in my opinoin there are a whole lotta other qbs in da league that i would take over him.
you're right about everything if you'd just taken out the words:Im goin with Mike Vick and im sure many people will disagree with me

then you said, "Yes he can run and has a cannon but he dosent help his team as a true Qb. He jus runs around and gives us a bunch of top 10 spotscenter plays. Hes a great athlete but in my opinoin there are a whole lotta other qbs in da league that i would take over him."
we'll that makes it seem like we think he's god, we think that he is a QB that can win games single handedly, that's all
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:21 PM   #20
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Big Ben has a great team but when he played NEw England ha was very calm and played well against one of the best defenses in the league. If you want to talk about a guy who is overrated and only wins because he has a really great team around him its Tom Brady. In my mind he is not the qb people make him out to be. He is a solid Qb who dosent bite under pressure. But cmon take away that fumble call against the Raiders in the playoffs and the wouldnt have won that super bowl and nobody would even know who this kid was if it wasnt for the Jets because the injured Bledose and he came in and took over. That was the year the won their first super bowl.
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but all that stuff did happen, and can you name four of his recievers in 15 seconds?
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:20 PM   #22
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8-2 Falcons
VICK DA MAN
And Crump too
I'm gonna be laughing when all you Vick haters see the Falcons get a first round bye because he and his team is doing so good.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:46 PM   #23
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Tom Bradys recievers Terry Glen was there
David Givens
Troy Brown
David Patten
Dieon Branch
and no I didnt look these up
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I don't think Brady and Glenn ever played together.

There is also Bethel Johnson but he mostly returns kicks.
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Old 11-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #25
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did you look those up?


hehehe JK, bomby you get so serious
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New England is my most hated team. Yes, Hate! I HATE HATE HATE THEM!

On the other hand Brady is not over rated. WHat happen VS Raiders was a few years ago and he has had time to get better and has.
"That Raiders game is the reason I hate New England by the way".
You can't say any player is over rated when they have a background like Brady.

2 SB, ok 1 was BS that the Raiders should have been in but in that case they still made the AFC Championship game.
longest winning streak. That done by every player on the team. Maybe one week the DE wins the game and another week Brady but whatever happens Brady is the QB and leads his team. Even the BEST QB EVER have not had a longer winning streak.

When he starts to suck like Warrner.....

You can't say "well what if he was on this team". He is on the team he is and he is winning.

Just like Big Ben but I will take it back if Big Ben and the Steelers win the Super Bowl. Sure the Steel DE has won games for Big Ben just like NE but some of those games Big Ben won. An entire team makes every player. Except the Colts DE and MAnning just covers with enough TDS that the De only worries about the Passing game. That is why Manning should be the MVP, he covers for the whole team "credit the great hands of the WR and blocking from the O-line.

Would Big Ben, Brady, Vick, or any other QB win with a 31st rank DE? NO, JUST MANNING!
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vicks not overrated he is probably the best ahthlete in the nfl and i think if he had some recivers he would be alot better he runs because he has noone to hrow to.
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Athletic wise he is not overrated and is probably the top athlete inthe nfl. But when people say who are the elite qbs of the league his name should not be mentioned with the likes of Manning and Farve.
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Id have to say Brian Urlacher would be the most overrated player. Maybe its cause he is white, but I just don't see how he is that top 3 linebacker most say he is. Not great in coverage, a good tackler, and good instincts. Maybe it is because he is hidden away on a terrible team I don't notice his greatness, but I just don't believe he is GREAT. Ray Lewis is just a TAD overrated as well, with people making him 2nd only behind LT. They never point how he has gotten steam rolled against the Chiefs.
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Id have to say Brian Urlacher would be the most overrated player. Maybe its cause he is white, but I just don't see how he is that top 3 linebacker most say he is. Not great in coverage, a good tackler, and good instincts. Maybe it is because he is hidden away on a terrible team I don't notice his greatness, but I just don't believe he is GREAT. Ray Lewis is just a TAD overrated as well, with people making him 2nd only behind LT. They never point how he has gotten steam rolled against the Chiefs.

Race has nothing to do with it, edgar - and not for nothing, but have you noticed how Chicago's run defense has done an absolute disappearing act since Urlacher went out with his latest injury? Julius Jones - 150 yards. Good grief!
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