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Old 07-07-2008, 08:54 PM   #61
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As I have said, I let the left do whatever they are doing and clean up the mess they leave behind them.
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:01 PM   #62
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If you're willing to take a 1/2 and listen this through, this absolutely
nails this issue dead-to-rights, and how we NEED to drill for
oil in the US now, and why the Democrats in congress are basically
leading our country to the brink of an economic meltdown.

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Media...0-5ee6558b2d72
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:12 AM   #63
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The environmental extremists differ only in degree, not in kind, from the Islamic extremists, in that both are striving to force the world to return to a - thank G-d! - bygone era: The goal of the environmentalists is to quite literally undo the entire Industrial Revolution - indeed, they constantly cite the onset of the latter as when global warming commenced - so that everyone ends up living the same the way people did in those "flashback" portions of the 1960s cult TV series Dark Shadows.

The Islamists, of course, want to drag the entire world back much further - to the 7th or 8th Century.

And exactly how "crazy" is it to believe that these two movements are in cahoots with one another?
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:08 AM   #64
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The environmental extremists differ only in degree, not in kind, from the Islamic extremists, in that both are striving to force the world to return to a - thank G-d! - bygone era: The goal of the environmentalists is to quite literally undo the entire Industrial Revolution - indeed, they constantly cite the onset of the latter as when global warming commenced - so that everyone ends up living the same the way people did in those "flashback" portions of the 1960s cult TV series Dark Shadows.

The Islamists, of course, want to drag the entire world back much further - to the 7th or 8th Century.

And exactly how "crazy" is it to believe that these two movements are in cahoots with one another?
:lol::lol::lol:

Does anyone live in California?

Phil? Can you make trip up to San Fran? I'm pretty certain that Anthony has lost his damn mind!

But he did provide me with the best laugh I've had in years.

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Old 07-24-2008, 09:31 AM   #65
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I suppose it's just a bizarre coincidence that Earth Day happens to fall on the same date as Lenin's birthday (April 22nd).

The environmental wackos did all they could to prevent our side from winning the first Cold War - so why should we assume that they are any more loyal to us in the second?
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I suppose it's just a bizarre coincidence that Earth Day happens to fall on the same date as Lenin's birthday (April 22nd).

The environmental wackos did all they could to prevent our side from winning the first Cold War - so why should we assume that they are any more loyal to us in the second?
Yes, Anthony, it is a coincidence...

Please elaborate on how "Environmental Wackos" tried to prevent "our side" from winning the first Cold War...

And what makes someone an environmental wacko? When does one stop being an environmentalist and start being a wacko?

You really sound like Karl Rove.

"If you oppose any action by the American government, you are helping the enemy."
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I suppose it's just a bizarre coincidence that Earth Day happens to fall on the same date as Lenin's birthday (April 22nd).

The environmental wackos did all they could to prevent our side from winning the first Cold War - so why should we assume that they are any more loyal to us in the second?
Great post Anthony!

WE ARE NOW REALIZING THAT WE MUST CREATE OUR OWN ENERGY! This will be known as the "OBAMA FAILURE"!

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Yes, Anthony, it is a coincidence...

Please elaborate on how "Environmental Wackos" tried to prevent "our side" from winning the first Cold War...

And what makes someone an environmental wacko? When does one stop being an environmentalist and start being a wacko?

You really sound like Karl Rove.

"If you oppose any action by the American government, you are helping the enemy."


The whole environmentalist movement was a Communist plot to retard economic progress in the U.S. so that the Soviet laggards could someday catch up - and before you laugh, show me evidence of so much as one incident of "green" activism that ever took place anywhere behind the Iron Curtain in the 1970s or '80s.

And the damage these cretins have done just happened to manifest itself at the hotel where I work, twice in the past week, as we had to take two rooms out of order due to bedbugs - bedbugs which were on the brink of extinction before the greenies got DDT banned 35 years ago.
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The whole environmentalist movement was a Communist plot to retard economic progress in the U.S. so that the Soviet laggards could someday catch up - and before you laugh, show me evidence of so much as one incident of "green" activism that ever took place anywhere behind the Iron Curtain in the 1970s or '80s.

And the damage these cretins have done just happened to manifest itself at the hotel where I work, twice in the past week, as we had to take two rooms out of order due to bedbugs - bedbugs which were on the brink of extinction before the greenies got DDT banned 35 years ago.
If you really believe this, then we can stop talking about the subject...

Let me guess, anti-war activists are working for Bin Laden?

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And exactly how "crazy" is it to believe that these two movements are in cahoots with one another?

Very crazy.

I understand your next move is to sight the book ""Arab Agricultural Revolution" as being the earliest written work on environmentalism but it's just a coincidence.

Simply get over it.

This random A = B = C over large segments of time,space and other social/economic/political factors is more of an internet crossword puzzle exercise than actual sound debate.
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But isn't the far left's continued adamant refusal to extract America's own copious energy resources - and even to be as nuclear-power-friendly as the French! - lining the pockets of our enemies, and giving them the leverage to utterly destroy our economy any time they want to?

So the enviro-weenies are aiding and abetting the enemy - even if they don't regard themselves as doing such.
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If the current oil crisis is a national emergency, why won't Bush release some from the strategic reserve. It is for emergencies is it not?
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Bush may not have done that, but he did declare an end to the federal moratorium on off-shore drilling (which won't actually accomplish anything unless the individual states lift their ban on same, which none of them seem to have the slightest interest of doing) - and look at where oil futures prices have gone since that announcement.

Now imagine how the speculators will react if any drill bits physically make contact with any rock formations or ocean beds.
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But isn't the far left's continued adamant refusal to extract America's own copious energy resources - and even to be as nuclear-power-friendly as the French! - lining the pockets of our enemies, and giving them the leverage to utterly destroy our economy any time they want to?

So the enviro-weenies are aiding and abetting the enemy - even if they don't regard themselves as doing such.
The oil drilling you speak of won't reach maximum production for at least 20 years. At maximum production, the oil production will barely make a dent in the price of oil.

By then, there will be more drivers and a much higher demand.

In other words, drilling accomplishes nothing.

The problem is demand, from within the US and in places like China.

The only hope we have is to move away from oil and be oil independent within 20 years.

Then, we won't have to worry about all the oil the Chinese are using, we'll be driving on other fuels.

"More drilling" is the intellectually lazy "solution" to a problem that requires much more thoughtful consideration. It wouldn't solve anything other than adding to the pockets of oil executives.

It is a knee-jerk reaction that doesn't address the problem for 20 years, and does so with a minimal impact on the price of gasoline.

Just like the war in Iraq, it is a thoughtless answer to a very complex problem.

And people wonder why the intellectual community is overwhelmingly liberal...
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:58 AM   #75
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Fresh, how about the oilfield under the Dakotas and Montana? Why is the left not allowing a refinery to be built there? The promoters of the refinery have jumped through all the hoops that were there, only to find that more have been erected. They are attempting to jump through those hoops, but where does the red-tape end?
We need more refining capacity and these people are trying to build it. The loeft is standing squarely in their way.
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