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Old 04-10-2005, 07:50 PM   #1
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Question RB pro track records Big 10: Bad, SEC: Good

Here's an interesting piece (and quite controversial) on which conference produces the best RBs. I think this is particularly interesting:

No Big Ten running back taken below the 40th pick in the draft over the last 10 years has ever had more than 200 carries in a single season. Meanwhile, the SEC has produced such second-day draft gems as Terrell Davis, Stephen Davis, Rudi Johnson and Domanick Davis.

What do you think?

Here's a round-by-round comparison of all the running backs taken from these two conferences over the past 10 years. The further down the draft board you go, the more absurd the difference becomes. But the parade of Big Ten running back busts starts right at the top, with the last running back ever chosen with the No. 1 overall pick.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...=schatz/050405
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Old 04-10-2005, 08:19 PM   #2
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Well, you know the top Big Ten back last year was Larry Johnson with the Chiefs and he ranked 35th in the league in rushing last year.
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Larry Johnson will be a 1000+ yard running back once he obtains a starting job be it with Kansas City or elsewhere. It took him until his senior season at Penn State to break out and it seems that his adjustment to the NFL took only one season. His numbers from last season aren't bad for a guy who had problems with his coach and was the third string back behind Holmes and Derrick Blaylock.
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Hey, at least the Big Ten has sponsored the Super Bowl winning quarterback the last two seasons!

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Unfortunately, other than Brady, there haven't been many Super Bowl winning quarterbacks from the Big Ten. Just off the top of my head, some of the recent/past winners include Brad Johnson (Florida State), Trent Dilfer (Fresno State), Kurt Warner (Northern Iowa), John Elway (Stanford), Brett Favre (Southern Miss), Troy Aikman (UCLA), Steve Young (BYU), Mark Rypien (Washington State), Jeff Hostetler (West Virginia) and Joe Montana (Notre Dame). You have to go back to the 1973 Miami Dolphins to find the last Super Bowl winning quarterback from the Big Ten, Purdue's Bob Greise.
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Actually, I believe Bob went to Purdue. Brian is the one who went to Michigan.
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Correct, doublee. I couldn't remember if he went to UM or not so I googled "Bob Griese Michigan" and thought I came up with something that said he did.
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Thanks for dredging this up, Detmurds.

Interesting analysis. I think Anthony Davis, 7th rd to Indy, could be an exception to the rule. He's faster than typical Big 10 backs, but he'll need to stay healthy... and he'll need a chance to play in the first place.
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My question is, "why ask about just the RB's?" Is this the only position one could find where the Big 10 isn't represented well lately? Let's open it up a bit and we can talk about players like Ty Law, and Amani Toomer?

Overall, good topic!
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Maurice Clarett could very well be a productive back......if he can stay healthy I could see him getting well over 200 carries.
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Clarett should be good in my opinion as well. As long as he is in shape, which surely will not be "football shape".
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That and if he keeps his head on straight. He certainly seemed a lot more interested in living the life of a superstar when he was at OSU than taking care of his obligations.
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Quote:
Originally posted by DETMURDS
My question is, "why ask about just the RB's?" Is this the only position one could find where the Big 10 isn't represented well lately?
I wondered that, too. What does it mean that the SEC kicks the tail off of the Big Ten....er, when it comes to running backs....er, that were drafted in later rounds. That's too many asterisks for it to be a good trump point for the SEC, or even an worthwhile article or topic of conversation. If anything, it reveals that the SEC is feeling some p*nis envy of the Big Ten, football-wise. Marc, who started this thead (and is going to tear me a new one for this insinuation I'm making in 3...2....1....) is, naturally, attending an SEC institution. I couldn't find the college of Aaron Schatz, the author of the piece, but he might not be an SEC guy as all of his articles seem to be about, "Check out this bizarre stat or trend I dug up!" and seems to be more than the football version of sabermetrician Rob Neyer than an SEC partisan.
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Wow, now all I hear is, "crickets"!

Here are some facts:

Most Players in NFL by Conference. (1998-2002)

1. Pac 10
2. Big 10
3. Big East
4. SEC
5. ACC
6. Big 12

Independent Schools are actually #1, but they aren't really in a conference now are they?


Now, if you want to talk about players that actually got a degree (didn't quit school), the best from the SEC is Clemson in 7th place, and the Big 10 has Illinois at #3.


Source: M.J. Duberstein, NLFPA Research Dept

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