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Old 02-20-2007, 12:01 PM   #1
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Shortly after school began in September, the teacher told his sixth-period students at Kearny High School that evolution and the Big Bang were not scientific, that dinosaurs were aboard Noah’s ark, and that only Christians had a place in heaven, according to audio recordings made by a student whose family is now considering a lawsuit claiming Mr. Paszkiewicz broke the church-state boundary.

This story comes from New Jersey. This teacher should be fired and even thrown in jail, in my opinion. He is teaching a history class and he turns it into church. Not only that, he decides to descredit every scientific theory he can think of.

Read the story, and be affraid, be very affraid!

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss
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Old 02-20-2007, 12:48 PM   #2
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This teacher should be fired and even thrown in jail, in my opinion.
Thrown in jail?

I think a good debate could be spawned from this topic of whether or not the teacher should be able to keep his job, but I see no reason why he should be thrown in jail.

Usually it takes more than just being a foolish person for someone to receive a sentence behind bars.
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I know, I was using a bit of hyperbole. But what do you think would happen if a radical muslim was preaching his views and telling the students that Christians are going to hell? I think there's a good chance that teacher would go to jail.

I think the best punishment would be to put this guy on a corner of a busy intersection and make him wear a sign that says, "I am a bigot who tries to force my views on others."

At the very least he should be fired.

And for all of those who will call me a Christian-hater. I would say the same for any teacher who did this. If a homosexual told the child to eb homosexual, I would call for him to be fired. If a Jew was preaching, I'd say the same thing. It's not his views, it is the fact that he is forcing them on the children and telling them if they don't agree with him they are going to hell. It is simply wrong.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:02 PM   #4
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Usually it takes more than just being a foolish person for someone to receive a sentence behind bars.

Exactly...InTheNet would have been incarcerated long ago if that were the only criteria :lol:
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Shortly after school began in September, the teacher told his sixth-period students at Kearny High School that evolution and the Big Bang were not scientific, that dinosaurs were aboard Noah’s ark, and that only Christians had a place in heaven, according to audio recordings made by a student whose family is now considering a lawsuit claiming Mr. Paszkiewicz broke the church-state boundary. url]
So?

Secular progressives have been selling the other side for decades... (the My Daddy Is a Monkey crowd)... A little variety is good for students...

Give the teacher a raise and move on.

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Secular progressives have been selling the other side for decades... (the My Daddy Is a Monkey crowd)... A little variety is good for students...

Give the teacher a raise and move on.

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Would you be ok with with a radical Muslim telling your children IN THE CLASSROOM, that all Christians are going to hell?
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That's because public school is A SECULAR ENTITY!

What do you expect? School is meant to be secular. If you want to learn religion, go to church, if you want to learn science, go to school.

Why is that a problem?

Before you answer that, answer the first question:

Would you be ok with with a radical Muslim telling your children IN THE CLASSROOM, that all Christians are going to hell?
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That's because public school is A SECULAR ENTITY!?
Horsecrap! Show me that in writing? And don't you dare cite the U.S. Constitution because it says nothing about seperation of Church and State!

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A canard! Take your secular progressive nonsense elsewhere!

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If you want to learn religion, go to church, if you want to learn science, go to school.
I submit that your premise is flawed; fundamentally so.

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Would you be ok with with a radical Muslim telling your children IN THE CLASSROOM, that all Christians are going to hell?
If this nation was 83% Muslim yes. It isn't.
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If this nation was 83% Muslim yes. It isn't.
Does the constitution say anything about freedom of religion?

If so, wouldn't these actions be infringing on that right?

If our people are free to believe whatever they want, they shouldn't be told they are going to hell for those beliefs by a person who is paid with public tax dollars.

You're an idiot.
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You believe in freedom of religion and freedom of speech as long as those exercising that freedom agree with you.

That's the point, these freedoms apply to MINORITIES as well. I guess we should just use the educations system WHICH IS FEDERALY FUNDED to preach one religion and oppress others.

Sounds a little bit like the situation our founding fathers fled in order to establish freedom of religion.

Freedom of religion also = freedom FROM religion. If you are not free to believe whichever religion you like, you do not have freedom of religion.
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catman, detmurds, where are you?

I need a sensible conservative to tell IntheNet that this is wrong.

Can we all agree (aside from IntheNet who is nuts) that public high school teachers should not being telling students of other religions that they are going to hell? Can we all agree that public high school is not the place for a teacher to recruit for his religion?

Please, show me that the right hasn't completely lost their mind. I know IntheNet is on the fringe of society and represents about 1% of the population, but come on.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:36 PM   #12
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Would you be ok with with a radical Muslim telling your children IN THE CLASSROOM, that all Christians are going to hell?
"Radical Muslims" are teaching our children, ...well, they might as well be since our schools are not teaching responsibility.

Self esteem is pushed way too much and now our youth can't do a single thing wrong in thier own minds.

I don't know, they have taught the Koran, and call it "culture", but even mention the word "bible" and everyone will only consider it as pushing "religion"! I say teach both,...they are both about history!

Teacher to student: "Is that a bible in your desk? Mr., I don't ever want to see that thing here again,...now here, have some condoms and be a good boy!"

Some things are so jacked up!
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I say teach both,...they are both about history!
I agree, but this guy wasn't teaching ABOUT Christianity, he was telling the students, "If you are not Christian, you are going to hell!"

Please tell me you think that is wrong.
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Why did the kid have a tape recorder. It's HS there is no reason to have a taperecorder.
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I agree, but this guy wasn't teaching ABOUT Christianity, he was telling the students, "If you are not Christian, you are going to hell!"

Please tell me you think that is wrong.
Yes, it is wrong, and for any kid, it was probably pretty scary as well. This isn't old day England when one was forced upon the King's religion, it is the USA where we have freedom of religion, therefore we all have the right to our own choice of what we want to believe in. This teacher needs help to be honest.
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