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Roy Halladay 0 0%
Josh Johnson 2 40.00%
Ubaldo Jimenez 2 40.00%
Adam Wainwright 1 20.00%
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:33 PM   #1
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Who do you think should win the 2010 NL Cy Young?

I think Roy Halladay will win it, although Josh Johnson and Adam Wainwright might deserve it more.

If the vote took place today though, and I had a vote, I'd vote for Wainwright, who has the lowest July ERA (0.31) since 1913, and has a season ERA of 1.94, to complement 14 wins and 136 strikeouts.

Josh Johnson would probably be my second choice. Even though his ERA is lower than Wainwright's, I think Wainwright has been more valuable to his team's success than Johnson.
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Josh Johnson, why? Because hes on my fantasy team. But no in all seriousness, 10 wins 1.61 ERA, 141 K's only 29 Walks, 0.97 WHIP?

Thats what Mr. Young was all about.
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Its really tough to say. If the Phillies get to the playoffs, Halladay gets the award. If the Marlins do (and the Phillies don't), Johnson has a very good chance. The Cardinals have underacheived as a team, but Wainwright has been very good. Jimenez is going through a "tired arm" time and needs to get back into top form if he is to get consideration for the award.
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Voted for Jimenez. If he gets back to early season form he will win it going away.
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Remember when ESPN had the Bob Gibson watch on with Ubaldo? That went south rather quickly.

It may be just a bit too close to call just yet.

I think Wainwright is going to end up leading the league in wins.

Halladay may need to go on a run where he does not lose too many more starts. He is currently on pace to go 18-13. If he were to lose that many games it would mark the first time since 1976 a pitcher with that many losses won the Cy Young Award. Only twice has a pitcher with double digits in losses won the Cy Young Award and not won 20 games.

Johnson is going to have the K's and ERA but will he have enough wins?

Jiminez should have the wins but will he get his ERA low enough to knock Johnson and Wainwright out of the running?

Don't count Chris Carpenter out of the mix either. He has a history of getting into August and September and running off eight to ten starts where he is absolutely lights out. If he gets on a run like that he could end up with 18/19 wins and a sub 2.50 ERA.

Same goes for Lincecum.
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I think Josh Johnson will finish with 17 or 18 wins, the most K's and the ERA...how does that not qualify him to win it?

Like Zach Grienke last year, it doesn't matter how good your team is, CY YOUNG goes to the best pitcher period. Josh Johnson is the best pitcher right now...period.
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I think Josh Johnson will finish with 17 or 18 wins, the most K's and the ERA...how does that not qualify him to win it?
Because Jiminiez and Wainwright have legit shots at winning 22 or 23 games this season.

It depends by how much he leads by. Say Johnson ends with a 2.00 ERA and someone like Wainwright ends the year with a 2.30 ERA but wins 22 games and gets his team into the post season while Johnson ends up with 18 wins and the Marlins are sitting at home. Wainwright will beat him in balloting.

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Like Zach Grienke last year, it doesn't matter how good your team is, CY YOUNG goes to the best pitcher period. Josh Johnson is the best pitcher right now...period.
It depends. One of the main reasons Greinke won last year was because nobody from any of the front runners had terribly strong seasons in comparison to Greinke's. If Sabathia's ERA were half a run lower or the Mariners had stayed in contention into September then C. C. or Felix Hernandez probably would have won it.

Wins are the equivlaent to home runs when it comes to voting for the Cy Young. Voters love a pitcher who wins 22 or 23 games even if his ERA is not the greatest.

Pitchers who pitch for teams in contention down the stretch will get the edge if two guys are close stats-wise.
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See I look at it like this, put Johnson on the same team as Jiminez, who has the better season? Johnson does, you can not fault a pitcher if his team doesn't help him win.
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Okay, but the point is that when you have pitchers who are close enough statistically voters will give the edge to the pitcher who is pitching in meaningful games down the stretch. Much the same way that hitters who come through in the clutch down the stretch pick up MVP votes.

Voters respond to guys who are putting up numbers in meaningful games down the stretch. There is an argument to be made that it is easier to pitch well in games when the pressure is off and there is nothing on the line.
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I understand thats how voters think, I just disagree with it, I also think pitching in less meaningful games down the stretch might be harder, your team is already out of contention and you dont want to go home with nothing. Pitchers who are pitching in meaningful games arent just pitching for the CY YOUNG award, they are pitching for seeding and wins and the playoffs.

One could argue all guys like Grienke or Johnson have right now is hope for awards.It'd be hard to pitch for that.
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One could argue all guys like Grienke or Johnson have right now is hope for awards.It'd be hard to pitch for that.
True but there is not the pressure to win those games and you might be willing to take more chances against certain hitters that you otherwise would not if the games were more meaningful.
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Well whatever the case I would prefer to see Johnson win it, hes pitching has been stellar all year long, I wish his team could pick him up several more wins.
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Wainwright's to lose right now.
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