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Old 11-14-2008, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Will Vince Young ever play football again?

On the sideline, Young passes up chances to learn

While the Titans try to achieve a perfect 10, I keep wondering what to make of an imperfect No. 10 — Vince Young.

These days, the most prominent questions about Young are not about his health (The knee's fine, thank you) but about his attitude.

Specifically, fans and those in the media keep noticing Young's conduct and body language on the sideline during games. He seems detached. He participates in pregame warm-ups then appears to retreat into his own little world after kickoff.

When the offense comes off the field, you see starter Kerry Collins huddling with offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger as they examine photos of the opposing defense that are transmitted from the press box to the sideline. No. 3 quarterback Chris Simms is an interested participant.

Young? He's usually found several steps away, uninvolved. He either doesn't want to be part of the process or is not invited. And I seriously doubt it's the latter.

This makes a strange situation even stranger. During practice sessions, Young works extensively with the second-team offense. Since returning to good health, he has been listed as the No. 2 quarterback on game day.

But even though he is just one snap away from being the Titans' quarterback again, he seems a million miles away during the game.

At Titans Central, the party line remains that Young is merely doing what he should have been allowed to do as a rookie — observe how a veteran quarterback conducts his business.

But from the outside looking in, you must wonder if Young is maximizing this opportunity. Yes, looks can be deceiving, especially on TV, but Young certainly appears detached from this team.

He needs to get with the program. There is a lot to learn.

As an NFL game evolves, defenses make changes to counteract what the offense is doing. There are new alignments, new stunts, new blitzes. That's why the photos are such valuable learning tools.

Look at it this way: If a 14-year veteran quarterback like Collins thinks it's important enough to study the photos and discuss them with his offensive coordinator, don't you think a third-year pro with 30 career starts like Young could learn a thing or two?

Some have suggested that Heimerdinger come up with a hybrid Wild Titan formation as a change-up. Why not insert Young into the game, line him up in the shotgun and run some sort of run-pass option?

In theory, this would add a new wrinkle to the offense. Beyond that, it would give Young the motivation to stay involved and engaged during the game.

Sorry, but it's not going to happen.

First off, Heimerdinger isn't big on such things. Second, you wonder if this somehow would disrupt the Titans' karma. Collins is their quarterback.

Besides, with everything that has transpired over the past two months, I'm not so sure the Titans are interested in going out of their way to appease Vince Young.

They shouldn't be.

David Climer,Tennessean.com

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...811140384/1027


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Interesting article. Is Young really interested in restarting his career? Will he even play another down of meaningful football again?
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:29 PM   #2
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The question is is Young detached from the team, or from the game itself? I think it's the ladder. He has mental issues ruining his career, but all the physical talent in the world. It's sad to see that go to waste.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:06 PM   #3
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Ownership still sees Young as the future of the franchise:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3768472

It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the summer, especially if the Titans make a deep run into the playoffs. Do they come back next year with the guy who psychologically imploded this year or stick with the guy who is leading the franchise to one of its best in team history?

I wonder how many veterans on the team would embrace Vince Young being the starter over Kerry Collins next summer?
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But is Kerry Collins really LEADING the franchise to this record? Sure, hes the man playing QB, but I dont see him leading this team anywhere. He is managing the game, and trying his best not to screw up, but the defense and offensive line/RB's are the ones leading this team. If the Titans were depending on Collins to lead them and put the game in his hands, they wouldnt be near 12-1 right now, he just makes too many mistakes.
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The same can be said about Young though and ultimately the point is Collins gives them the best chance to win ballgames. Young was not showing any kind of progression in terms of his game management.
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Well I guess we'll see Young out there Sunday in Indianapolis - and if the Cardinals are smart, we'll see a lot of Matt Leinart as well, not only to protect Kurt Warner, but to showcase Leinart for a possible trade this spring?

Remember that the mess in Detroit makes it far more likely that Sam Bradford, Matthew Stafford etc. will stay in college, leaving Matt Cassel as the only game in town for any team looking for an immediate upgrade at quarterback (unless Leinart - and/or Donovan McNabb - are put on the block).
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I Quit finally trying to figure these players out long ago.:lol:
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V. Young was drafted so highly purely based on potential.
His upside was huge, but a gamble.
Not a draft bust yet, but looking that way.
V.Y. supporters will point out early careers of great QB's that struggled their 1st few seasons. For every one of those though, their are 10 others who also struggled and became draft busts.
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I think the difference with those QBs though is that while they struggled early on they also showed signs of improvement along the way while Young seems to be stagnating to regressing at times and the way he has reportedly handled the benching is sending up red flags all over the place.
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Weren't both Vince Young and Akili Smith the third overall selections in their respective drafts?
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