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Old 11-03-2004, 07:26 PM   #1
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Not all that surprising, I thought he was going to win. Was very close though
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:56 PM   #2
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Great great win for Bush and all Republicans. Boy they kicked ass in the Congress.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:36 AM   #3
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I guess great is a matter of perspective.
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:48 PM   #4
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Yeah Democrats did get their ass whooped in pretty much everything
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:22 PM   #5
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I think this is good for Western Canada. Kerry would've tightned up the border even MORE and make it harder for people like my parents and family to sell our cattle back to the states after our singelton BSE "crisis" last summer... Bush has had open discussions with our government and is working on resolving that and the softwood lumber issue between Canada/USA.

Some things I don't agree with Bush on... a lot I do though. No one's perfect; I'm glad he won.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:53 PM   #6
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Bix...

By modern standards, and most polticial scientists' standards, this thing was a blowout.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:07 AM   #7
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Republicans will have the president for a long time to come.

Look at the democrats best candidate(or should I say most likely candidate) is Hillary Clinton.

If Clinton ran, no chance in hell that she will win.

And look at the Republicans candidates. Guliani, Powell, and some of the other crazy Bush Administration members.

Let us hope that someone like Remsfeild doesn't run next election.

The dems best chance in 08 is probably Dean, who ruined his reputation.

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Old 11-05-2004, 12:25 AM   #8
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Oops...'scuse me....(Damn, talk about a misleading thread title...)
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Old 11-05-2004, 04:43 PM   #9
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Ellis---Guliani is definitely a possiblity, but I doubt, after he serves in W's 2nd cabinet, that he'll continue to want to serve at the federal level at his age. (Presently, I have $100 says he replaces Powell in the State Dept)

Powell may not have the taste for it anymore, either, after this most horrific four years of his.

I doubt strongly that Rumsy has the desire to be president. Not enough power. He may also be ready to return to private life for the remainder of his days.

And if Ashcroft is "exhausted from fighting the domestic terrorist threat" it's exceedingly unlikely he'd be willing to take it on globally. Three cheers for the fact that he's exhausted. Perhaps he'll return to that shell he abandoned four years ago.

I haven't given much thought to '08 on either side of the aisle, however. Jeb can't be discounted fully yet, but it seems like he'd want at least one term between he and W before he "takes his rightful place."

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I tried finding a southern Democratic senator or governor who could run for in 08, but hell, there aren't hardly any. That's about the only person who could win at this point for the Dems.
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I bet if Bill Clinton ran again he would win but that kinda can't happen...but a thought...for you democrats out there
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The Dems have a couple years to gather themselves, focus on getting back some losses in the House and make advantage of whatever vacancies appear in the Senate in '06, etc., before they need to get overwrought finding the right candidate for the '08 run.

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Old 11-07-2004, 02:49 AM   #13
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Do I detect a little dissention Dave with Jackson's Party? I'm sure they will go right as well. Always room to join another, more left party. Do what I do...1/3 Socialist, 1/3 Green, 1/3 Anarchist.

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For 2008, look for Senate majority leader Bill Frist (R-Tennessee) to make a push for the GOP's nomination.

As a political science major (and a republican), I study this stuff all the time, and Frist seems like a solid candidate.

Here's why Guiliani probably wouldn't win (even if he ran, because he might not even run): 1) Guiliani is a moderate republican- he is in favor of gay marraige, and pro-choice. This would make it increasinly difficult for Guiliani to win in the primaries, where conservative republicans would not favor his stances. 2) Guiliani has a sketchy background when it comes to mistrisses and women while major of NYC... It would be a hell of a topic to defend in a presidental campaign.

Besides Frist and Guiliani, another top candidate in 2008 may be John McCain, and he has big popularity... his problem is that he's also a moderate republican, part of the reason he couldnt beat Bush in the 2000 primaries. ALSO- McCain will be 72 in 2008, making him almost too old to serve in office, or if he did, it would be like Reagan.

On the Democrat side, you obviously have Hillary (would never win-- republicans DESPISE her), John Edwards (he has nothing ELSE to do besides run for President), Howard Dean again.

I've heard the Democrats re-strategize and say that in order to possibly win the Presidency in this day in age would be to nominate a southern democrat, to "hopefully" steal some Southern states from the Republican-dominance. Northern democrats do horribly in the South.

Glad I could throw in my two cents.

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Old 11-07-2004, 10:17 PM   #15
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Frist is a good guess.

I argue that Guiliani will be too old. Besides, he's going to spend the next 4 years in the White House.
Potentially, Mr McCain will also be spending the next four years in the White House. (Defense is a position, with State and Atty Gen., that seems a lock to be available in the W II term.) McCain is also likely too old in '08 to make a solid, blood and guts run.

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