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Old 10-13-2004, 09:10 PM   #1
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Default Cowher: will not name Big Ben reg. starter

So what does Roethlisberger have to do to get the starting job? I saw on TV today that Cowher announced he will not name B.R. (his name takes too long to spell, so from now on, I will call him B.R. ) the starter for the remainder of the seaon. Why not? The kid has proven that he is the real deal, and if I recall, Dave and Myself had a couple of discussions where we thought he was the best QB coming into the league this year. So maybe he's ready to start now. Why is Cowher intent on putting Maddox back in?
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:11 PM   #2
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Ah-ah-ah! Not so fast, my friend.

What Cowher did (and I've just been reading the papers in and around the 'Burgh, so I've got this firmly in my ever-shortening memory) was laugh at the question: What happens when Maddox is ready.
He said nothing more than that.

Rich Eisen (NFL Network) also brought up the question of Roethlisberger's status, and Cowher kind of chuckled and said that Maddox was four or five weeks away from throwing a football, so what happens in six or seven weeks wasn't on his radar yet.

And that's the right answer.
Roethlisberger has been impressive (I marveled while watching NFL Replay --NFL Network On Demand ten-minute highlight packages-- and the play Big Ben made on both the Plax deep throw while getting crushed AND the Plax TD pass; the former pass being the one he wiggled from the D lineman's arms and planted a perfect ball downfield for Plax just before getting creamed, the latter being another scramble right, throw from the wrong foot a la Favre--after looking off Staley, who had an easy six yards ahead of him-- and flung the ball downfield for Plax. Yeah, Plax had to turn for the ball, but Henry (defender) had no play on the ball) but he has yet to face a defense or secondary like the ones he'll face in his next three starts: Dallas, New England, Philadelphia.

If he survives those without looking like a complete amateur (which will be a tall order), the local (Pittsburgh) sentiment is that Big Ben won't be replaced if/when Maddox returns 100%.

I don't blame Cowher, honestly. If Roethlisberger continues to show some play-making ability without costing the team wins, he keeps his job. But, let him play against some finer defenses in regular circumstances first.

(The Miami D is the best he'll see for a time, but, given the hurricane situation, he wasn't really able or allowed to do much.)

Besides, maybe Maddox doesn't recover, and there's no debate.

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Old 10-13-2004, 10:45 PM   #3
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I am not saying Ben is not off to a good start or anything, but is there anyone better at coachspeak hyperbole than Parcells:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1901431

I love the part about Parcells saying that he is not just saying that because he is an opponent.
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Old 10-13-2004, 11:09 PM   #4
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I like the part where Roethlisberger says, yeah, whatever, in so many words.

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Old 10-14-2004, 01:38 AM   #5
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Mike...Big Ben will do for a nickname.

Dave...I got offered season tickets for the rest of the Steeler games today for free. Just thought I'd tell ya and rub it in...LOL.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:42 AM   #6
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Big ben is having the greatest rookie season since Marino. How could he not be the starter?
It will be good for him to keep playing as Maddox is pretty old.
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78... You bastahd! Well, if you take 'em, do enjoy 'em.

Panthers... let's not get ahead of ourselves. Big Ben is doing well, he's been solid, but let's not compare him to a legend of the game just yet, please. He's nowhere near as productive as Marino's rookie Dolphins was, and don't forget, Marino didn't start his entire rookie year. He and David Woody shared the starter's role most of the season. Indeed, didn't Woody start the Super Bowl? Anyway...

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That's David Woodley.

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I was not comparing him to Marino, I am saying he is having the best since Marino. Marino started in the Probowl and I don't think anyone will touch marino for rookie seasons.
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Oops. Sorry Mr ARM and the deceased Mr Woodley.

I should have known that. I just saw a thing about him toward the end of last season on Inside the NFL.

Ah, well. I'm just gettin' older and older as the days grow shorter and shorter.

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He's dead?
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Yes. He was a highly depressed individual, and, if memory serves, took his own life, though I may be wrong about that. I'll be back.

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The only thing I could find on short notice was liver failure.
However, I think that liver failure was due to alcohol addiction. Like I said, he was a pretty unhappy dude, according to the ITN thing I saw on him last year. In fact, he died in May, 2003.

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I did take the tix Dave. I have to share them with my brother. The seats are pretty bad, but it's a new stadium, and even the worse seats aren't THAT bad. I saw a few Pitt Panther games in there the first year. It's going to be interesting to see the team the stadium was built for because the aura of the Pitt games was terrible. Then again, you're talking to the Big Ten snob here. But you know that Dave...LOL.
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Yeah, I don't know about the feel for the Steelers. I think I've heard complaints that it didn't provide the same feel as Three Rivers.

But, Pitt doesn't belong in a stadium that big. 40-45,000 tops.

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