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Old 01-20-2004, 11:40 PM   #1
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The draft is about 3 months away, and I couldn't be more excited. Some people say the season hasn't even ended yet, but with this extra week between now and the Super Bowl for 30 teams in the league its time to start thinking about next year. I have lauched my own NFL Draft Page, featuring my Top 20 players and a Mock Draft. Click the www on the bottom of my post to link to it. I plan to update it weekly.

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Old 01-21-2004, 12:09 AM   #2
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The Skins will not pick a WR even if Fitzgerald is avaiable. Gibbs belives in the run so if he does not get a back in free agency that is the route he will go. Do not be surprised if he goes with Kevin Jones out of VT.
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Old 01-21-2004, 04:40 AM   #3
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There are so many hot receivers in this draft that any team that wants or needs one should have no trouble landing one in the second round.

As for the Redskins, their three biggest needs are running back, running back, and running back - in that order (and the offensive line after that).
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Old 01-21-2004, 09:30 AM   #4
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Washington has a lot of needs, but WR is not one of them. Laveranues Coles and Rod Gardner are an above-average 1-2 combination at that position, and if Gibbs wants a new #3, he can get one in free agency or the middle rounds of the draft.

Washington's top priority this offseason may well be running back, but as I wrote earlier, I see Gibbs filling that position through free agency, not the draft.

His top RBs in Washington were Joe Washington, John Riggins, George Rogers, Gerald Riggs, and Earnest Byner. Every one of those guys played with another pro team before he joined Washington. Only twice in his 12 years in DC did the team draft a running back before the 4th round: Richard Williams, a 2nd-round pick in 1983, was traded to Atlanta before the season began; and Ricky Ervins, a 3rd-round pick in 1991 who had a promising rookie season behind Byner but never amounted to anything in the NFL.

The only RBs drafted by Gibbs who amounted to anything at all were: Kelvin Bryant, after a stint in the USFL; Timmy Smith, for one game; Brian Mitchell, as a returner; and maybe Jamie Morris or Ervins if you're feeling generous.

I think Gibbs would be quite content to get someone like Duce Staley or Garrison Hearst in free agency and save his draft picks for defensive line help and maybe a stud tight end or pulling guard.
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Old 01-21-2004, 05:43 PM   #5
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I hate this week between the conference championships and the Super Bowl. I realize for the teams it's beneficial for them to get healthy and such but the season feels over with a Sunday with no football coming up.

Tommie Harris, the stud DT from Oklahoma, and Kellen Winslow Jr, the loud-mouth TE from Miami (FL), should both be available. Kellen Winslow has the talent but his personality sucks. C'mon, a Heisman pose against Louisiana Tech and then sounding off after the Tennessee game like it was war.

The Packers have another lousy draft pick. Nick Barnett was a huge steal last year but the team's needs probably won't be met. Getting a DE would be a solid addition since Joe "The Walking Injury" Johnson has done nothing with the Pack. In the end I think we could end up taking QB J.P. Losman from Tulane. He's a raw QB but from what I've heard he has some talent. If I were the Packers I would try to trade up near the tenth pick. We might as well give up the 2nd rounder and maybe another late pick to nab someone we actually need.
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Old 01-21-2004, 06:01 PM   #6
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I was just wondering who you guys think will get Shawn Andrews. The tough defenses of today's game make offensive linemen essential. I just hope Shawn goes somewhere he can have an immediate impact. He's pretty good.
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Speaking for my team, I think the Packers need to address two concerns: 1) a safety to play alongside Sharper. Anderson and Edwards are below-average and often vulnerable; 2) a pass-rushing DE because Joe Johnson is an injury-prone, old bust.
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Speaking for my team, I think the Packers need to address two concerns: 1) a safety to play alongside Sharper. Anderson and Edwards are below-average and often vulnerable; 2) a pass-rushing DE because Joe Johnson is an injury-prone, old bust.
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25th Pick for the Packers

B.J. Sander?!?!
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i never said it would have to be a first round pick but they just need to fix the situation
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Raiders need a bit of everything. If Eli is left after SD picks, I would hope a team pulls a Mike Ditka and gives them everything. As much as I like (not love) Eli and the Manning's being 2 for 2 in the pros, a high-pick QB is too risky. Besides there are QBs like John Navarre and Philip Rivers that are attainable in late first-second.
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the Dolphins are taking a good hard look at Philip Rivers.
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Old 01-22-2004, 06:38 PM   #13
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It's interesting reading different scouts' views of what's happening this week in Mobile. The senior bowl is Saturday, so if you want to see maybe one-third of the first round prospects in action, under NFL coaching...

Losman is impressing Great Blue North, but has been completely ignored by ESPN.

Meanwhile, GBN likes what they've seen of Navarre, while ESPN HATES him. Vice versa of Josh Harris, of whom ESPN is very lusty, while GBN doesn't see a starter in the guy.

The Fish would be doing well to take a look at Rivers. There's a but... in there, but I don't really want to make it yet. He had a good career at a school not known for offensive power.

As for my Steelers, there are many a question mark. They could afford to pursue a QB like Rivers or Losman, or a CB, but there are big questions about most of them at this point... Too early to know what they're going to target. How the early free agency period goes will tell some. The Steelers have major cap issues, and will be cutting some viable folks to make room. Rebuilding will begin in March.

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Losman is impressing [url=http://www.gbnreport.com] Great Blue North, but has been completely ignored by ESPN.

Meanwhile, GBN likes what they've seen of Navarre, while ESPN HATES him. Vice versa of Josh Harris, of whom ESPN is very lusty, while GBN doesn't see a starter in the guy.


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Losman is ranked 13th by Mel Kiper, who is basically the only ESPN's draft expert, so I don't see how you can say he had been ignored by ESPN (I'm not sure if you were saying that or GBN was but either way, I disagree.)

I'm not a big fan of John Navarre. He is a big, slow, QB and he lacks awareness. That's not a good combination.

I like Harris. He would be a nice backup QB to have. For some reason I think the Steelers will jump on him in round 2.
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dhav-- I was referring to their "buzz" scouting reports from the Senior Bowl. Sorry. Shoulda been more specific.

I won't start reading Kiper for content for another couple weeks, so...

I did notice that Losman was the latest Scouts, Inc. report filed for ESPN just a moment ago. Maybe he wasn't there when I wrote. Maybe I missed it. Either way, he wasn't mentioned in any of the scouting reports filed from the Senior Bowl...

I can understand the Navarre disdain, your being a Buckeye and all. I'm not sure I'd draft him, at least not early, but I'm not as big a Harris guy as I thought I was either. He disappointed against Northwestern. Been down on his prospects, since.

As for the Steelers, I think I don't know what they're going to do about their QB. I don't think Harris is a leap they'd make, but Cowher does like those sexy mobile QBs.

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