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Old 10-14-2004, 02:05 AM   #1
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but it should be interesting...

Should the US continue to institute the death penalty?
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:24 AM   #2
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Yes.

If a person is found guilty to a horrible, horrible crime, he should get his throat slit. If a person murder my entire family and my pregnant wife, I wouldn't want that SOB to have a care-free life for the rest of his days in prison living off my taxes.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:28 AM   #3
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I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but I am in favor of much harsher penalties for criminals who would normally be on death row.... give him solitary with a skylight and bare sustenance slipped under the door for a few years... yes, years. He'll either go totally crazy and kill himself in there or go totally sane.
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I'm not really a death penalty guy, surprise, surprise, BUT...

I do believe that certain types of prisoners should be forced to donate certain portions of their bodies and lives to science. In effect, this is a type of death penalty (I'm talking about doing all kinds of gross studies on body and brain and such that are usually reserved for animals of lesser stature in the food chain).

Of course, this would only be for those who would normally get the death penalty--rapists, multiple murderers, etc. It would be interesting to understand the differences in neurochemistry and brain structure between what we take to be normal folk and people who are multiply violent criminals.

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Of course, this would only be for those who would normally get the death penalty--rapists, multiple murderers, etc.
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They're giving the death penalty to rapists these days?

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Seriously, I look at reactions like Hero's (who advocates throat-slitting as a capital punishment vehicle), and it reminds me that a lot of people, perhaps the majority, don't want justice to be the only factor in dealing with criminals. They want emotion, fury, and revenge to be factors in sentencing as well. This is in spite of the fact that these things, all indiciative of bias, go against the basic philosophy of U.S. jurisprudence.

Anyone ever see that symbol of justice, the lady with the scales and the blindfold?

If I had any skill at all, I would like to make some sort of animated feature where she throws down her scales, rips her blindfold off to reveal glowing medusa eyes, gives a keening howl, and starts rampaging through the streets, ripping the heads off of criminals and bums and trying to blast the word "Mercy" off her own pedastal.

A lot of liberals would love it because of its parody value.
A lot of conservatives would love it because it represents how they think the US Justice system should operate.
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:19 PM   #6
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After spending over 16 years in Law Enforcement, this is easy for me.

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I'm goin' with Kevins animated statue thingy....
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I'm goin' with Kevins animated statue thingy....
Yeah what the heck is that..............in Kevins avatar?

And Tarkus, a quick glance at your avatar leads me to believe you are FOR the death penalty also!

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LOL, #47...

Having the Death Dealer as my avatar does kinda lead one to think that, doesn't it?? lol
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I am for it. Certain types of people must be brought to justice.



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I think years to life in solitary is a much better punishment than the 'easy out' of death.

Give the bastards some time to really think about how they have become a cancer cell to humanity....

Instead of instant death, and then boom that same malevolent soul pops out again in another body but with the same karma and eventually causes more problems. (if you're a believer in reincarnation like myself)

Even if you don't believe in reincarnation, don't you think years in solitary would be a worse punishment than "ooh, a needle.... and I'm out.... might as well be at the dentist's office except I never wake up."
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Old 10-15-2004, 06:51 AM   #14
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How can America "continue" to adopt a national-wide death penalty if they do not have one now?? States decide on their own if they want it or not, am I incorrect?

Anyway I guess the point of this thread was just to talk about the issue rather than the details of the specific question.

Sometimes there's cold hard evidence that the person did a crime without a doubt. But what if a defendant maintains his innocence and it turns out he actually WAS some years and years later when they find new evidence or something? There's been some long-standing cases in Canada over the past few years where obviously the defendant was innocent but the state HAD to put SOMEONE in jail for life so they just tried to frame someone. Now, 30 years later because of DNA testing it is obvious the person they decided to frame is not the case, even though the common person has known it for years. I just don't think it's fair if a defendant says he didn't do the crime, is put to death, then later found innocent.

Of course, where defedant doesn't claim innocence for certain crimes I am up for discussion but even then, a life of solidtude with no chance for paroll is better punishment IMO. No pain in death IMO. Big pain in sitting in an 8x8 square the rest of your life.
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How can America "continue" to adopt a national-wide death penalty if they do not have one now?? States decide on their own if they want it or not, am I incorrect?

Anyway I guess the point of this thread was just to talk about the issue rather than the details of the specific question.

You are correct on both counts. There is, however, a federal death penalty if you commit a federal crime.

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Sometimes there's cold hard evidence that the person did a crime without a doubt. But what if a defendant maintains his innocence and it turns out he actually WAS some years and years later when they find new evidence or something?
That's exactly why Illinois put a moratorium on the death penalty, they kept finding out people on death row (or people already excuted) were innocent.

Sadly though, a lot of lawyers, judges and governors believe the death penalty is so vital that it's worth having a few innocents put to death - it's not something that they lose a lot of sleep over.
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