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Old 03-18-2008, 10:55 AM   #1
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Default Propaganda in high gear...

What % of published reports/stories, telecasts does the public believe? How does the public decide who's credible & who's not? Are you a lemming racing off the cliff with the masses or a sheep waiting for the Shepard? Are you quick to come to conclusions like it's some kind of time sensitive goal instead of waiting on the facts to come clear?

Well, I'll do my part by throwing a spotlight on an example of what the masses are putting up with as a rule on supposed accredited publications who do nothing more than pander to the weak minded, dirt hungry, Reality show mentality public who continue to support their piss poor excuse for journalism/news/scoops.

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Exhibit A

An attack on Tupac Shakur launched a hip-hop war

n 1994, Tupac Shakur was ambushed, beaten and shot at the Quad Recording Studios in New York. He insisted that friends of Sean 'Diddy' Combs were behind it. New information supports him.

Tupac Shakur had been beaten, shot and left for dead at the Quad Recording Studios on New York's 7th Avenue. As he was borne to a waiting ambulance through a swarm of paparazzi on Nov. 30, 1994, the rap star thrust his middle finger into the air....

It was a portentous moment in hip-hop -- the start of a bicoastal war that would culminate years later in the killings of Shakur and rap's other leading star, Christopher Wallace, better known as the Notorious B.I.G.

The ambush at the Quad remains a source of fascination and frustration to music fans and law enforcement officials alike. No one has ever been charged in the attack...

Now, newly discovered information, including interviews with people who were at the studio that night, lends credence to Shakur's insistence that associates of rap impresario Sean "Diddy" Combs were behind the assault. Their alleged motives: to punish Shakur for disrespecting them and rejecting their business overtures and, not incidentally, to curry favor with Combs...

FBI records obtained recently by The Times say that a confidential informant told authorities in 2002 that Rosemond and Sabatino "set up the rapper Tupac Shakur to get shot at Quad Studios." The informant said Sabatino had told him that Shakur "had to be dealt with."

The records -- summaries of FBI interviews with the informant conducted in July and December 2002 -- provide details of how Shakur was lured to the studio and ambushed. Others with knowledge of the incident corroborated the informant's account in interviews with The Times and gave additional details....

Combs, whose business empire includes Bad Boy Records and clothing and fragrance lines, also declined to comment.

The FBI documents do not name the informant. The Times learned his identity and verified that he was at the Quad on the night of the assault. When contacted, the man said the FBI records accurately convey what happened, and what he told investigators. He and the other sources interviewed for this article discussed the events of Nov. 30, 1994, on condition that their names not be published....

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Exhibit B

Diddy Denies LA Times' Tupac Story

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Sean "Diddy" Combs has denied a report by the Los Angeles Times that his associates were responsible for the 1994 robbery and shooting of Tupac Shakur at a New York recording studio, and that he knew about the attack in advance.

"The story is a lie," the hip-hop mogul said in a statement Monday. "It is beyond ridiculous and completely false. Neither (the late rapper Notorious B.I.G.) nor I had any knowledge of any attack before, during or after it happened. ... I am shocked that the Los Angeles Times would be so irresponsible as to publish such a baseless and completely untrue story."...

The Times said its story was based on FBI records, interviews with people at the scene of the 1994 shooting, and statements to the FBI by an informant. None of the sources were named. The story said that Combs who was overseeing B.I.G.'s white-hot career at the time and others lured Shakur to the studio because of his disrespect toward them.

The story said that talent manager James Rosemond and promoter James Sabatino arranged the assault. They and Combs declined to be interviewed for the story, which appeared on the Los Angeles Times Web site but not in its paper publication.

Rosemond called the story a "libelous piece of garbage."

"In the past 14 years, I have not even been questioned by law enforcement with regard to the assault of Tupac Shakur, let alone brought up on charges," he said in a statement. "Chuck Philips, the writer ... has reached a new low by employing fourth-hand information from desperate jailhouse informants along with ancient FBI reports to create this fabrication. I simply ask for all rap fans and fans of Tupac to analyze this fiction for what it is."

The story, written by Chuck Philips, was the first investigative report published as a Web exclusive, said Meredith Artley, editor of LATimes.com.

"This piece was perfect for the Web," Artley said. "The Web audience skews younger. We had all these great multimedia elements, and we said we really don't need to wait to fit this in the paper."

A "smaller version" of the story may still run in the paper, she said.

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A perfect example of propaganda from the LA Times where the cry of "newly discovered information" acts like it's cracked the case yet has done nothing except write a fictional account due to their 'sources' not wanting to be identified.

I like how the excuse of using the web cuz it "skews younger". Oh, you mean it's easier to reach the more gullible who wouldn't be spending money buying the printed version of the LA Times.

So the FBI & law enforcement couldn't get enough to charge anyone for this but it's OK for the press to hide behind unnamed sources to make a buck without proof. That's this great information age in high gear.

I'm not a Combs fan by any stretch but I hope there's no loopholes that the Times can use to get away from having their asses handed to 'em...

End of rant....
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Old 03-18-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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I like how the excuse of using the web cuz it "skews younger". Oh, you mean it's easier to reach the more gullible who wouldn't be spending money buying the printed version of the LA Times.
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So the FBI & law enforcement couldn't get enough to charge anyone for this but it's OK for the press to hide behind unnamed sources to make a buck without proof. That's this great information age in high gear.
*Sigh

Ya know, I'm getting a little sick and tired of this routine... old man.

Asking for verifcation, promoting the notion that experience and wisdom are valuable commodities, pointing out hypocrisy in the name of financial gain.

Damn, what century are you in?

Forget all that...fire up your dotcom...believe everything and anything so there's no accountability...and keep tellin' yourself that these new values will sustain us as a people.

This is your last warning...:thumbdown:
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Old 03-18-2008, 05:31 PM   #3
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:lol:

I've decided that instead of having to give directions come funeral time, I'll just leave an easy to follow wake of destruction to the grave site. :thumbup:

Of course, that's assuming any will come...
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What's funny about this story is how detailed the article without naming sources is.

You know these so-called promoters of truth love the fact they can spin their b.s. to this level without being accountable.

Always cracks me up how brave folks get when they don't leave their name at the door.

It's the American way. :thumbup:
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East Coast........

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LA Times Apologizes for Shakur Story

The Los Angeles Times apologized for using documents that were apparently fabricated in a story implicating associates of Sean "Diddy" Combs in a 1994 assault on rapper Tupac Shakur.

"The bottom line is that the documents we relied on should not have been used," Editor Russ Stanton said in a story posted Wednesday night on the newspaper's Web site. "We apologize both to our readers and to those referenced in the documents ... and in the story."

Pulitzer-prize winning reporter Chuck Philips, who wrote the story, and his supervisor, Deputy Managing Editor Marc Duvoisin, also apologized.

The apologies followed an investigation launched by Stanton after The Smoking Gun Web site reported earlier in the day that the paper was conned by a prisoner who doctored the documents.

Combs denied that he had any prior knowledge of or involvement in the robbery and shooting of Shakur at a New York recording studio. He and other subjects of the story claimed they had been defamed by the newspaper.

The Smoking Gun said the documents seemed phony because they appeared to be written on a typewriter instead of a computer and included blacked-out sections not typically found in such documents, among other problems.

The Web site claimed the documents were fabricated by a prison inmate with a history of exaggerating his place in the rap music world.

The Times said its March 17 story was based on FBI records, interviews with people at the scene of the 1994 shooting, and statements to the FBI by an informant.

None of the sources was named.

Philips said Wednesday that a former FBI agent examined the documents in question for him and said they appeared to be legitimate.

But Philips said he wished he had done more to investigate their authenticity.

"I now believe the truth here is I got duped," he said.

Marc Lichtman, an attorney representing rap manager James Rosemond, one of two men the story linked to the Shakur attack, had earlier demanded an apology.

"I would suggest to Mr. Philips and his editors that they immediately print an apology and take out their checkbooks or brace themselves for an epic lawsuit," Lichtman said Wednesday.

The story and related features on latimes.com attracted nearly 1 million hits more viewers than any other story on latimes.com this year, the newspaper said.

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You mean it was all bull****??? You mean I ran all the way home to get a bigger spoon to help gobble all this crap down & you say it's all a lie??? *sigh*



& from a 'major' newspaper & a supposed Pulitzer prize winning reporter.....
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