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TRAVIS13 07-17-2003 01:06 PM

sleeper teams
 
You better watch the dallas cowboys fellas. (notice i didn,t say boys) Yeah i,ve seen how bill parcels knows his business with the jets and eagels and patriots. He knew how to coach a winner and mark my words he will also make the cowboys to winners. He,s and old style coach who knows that he,s the boss and won,t take any crap from goofy players. It,s his way or the highway. He,ll get results. Dallas wins there diviison with maybe 11-5 or maybe better. Chad huntchinson will be good enough and you watch that to. he,s a pocket passer and you know how i think on that. I think parcels will make spurier cry and that will be cool. I hate that little mommas boy. I,ve never seen a whimp as much as him in the nfl. I wish they would kick him out of the league because it makes a bad name for pro football. What a girl. so dallas. Thats my nfc sleeper team.

The ravens will be good in the afc. There coach could whip the ass of about any other coach there i swear to god. Have you ever looked at his face?? You better believe that his players will listen to him. They have really good linebackers to and ray lewis will give a big beatdown to anyone not paying attention. They will rise up again and mark that down. they have no completiton in there division anyway. What the bengals?? HAhahahhahaha. NO no no, nobody can challenge them in there division. Pencil in dallas to play ravens in the super bowl and dallas wins 27-23.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I OWN THIS 07-17-2003 02:00 PM

Travis these are my thoughts and corrections on your post of sleeper teams...

1. Parcells never coached the Eagles. Parcells coached the Giants, Patriots, and Jets.

2. Parcells did not go to the playoffs with either the Pats nor the Jets in his first season with both teams. In the second year, Parcells did make the playoffs with both the Jets and Pats. See the trend here?

3. Dallas has the toughest schedule in the NFL this season if you base that on last season's winning percentage. If they don't have the toughest scheule, it has to be in the top 5 in the NFL. That being said, a tough schedule, plus the talent the Cowboys actually have will probably not result in an 11-5 record this season.

4. Spurrier won't be crying for Parcells, for you, or anyone next season. The Redskins should at least beat the Cowboys once if not both times they face them.

5. Travis do you know Spurrier's family? How do you know he is a mama's boy so to say? He might not even have a mother for all you know right?

6. "Ray Lewis will give a beatdown to whoever is not paying attention" was your quote. Who in NFL does not pay attention when Ray Lewis is on the field? And would it not be easy for Ray Lewis to beat someone down if they weren't paying attention? How about Ray Lewis beating somone down while they are paying attention?

7. The Steelers won the AFC North last season and went to the playoffs, so the Ravens are not home free in that division. They do have competition within that division Travis.

8. Dallas won't make the playoffs to get to the Super Bowl, and the Ravens might make a push, but I dout them being in the Super Bowl as well.

9. Travis this is how you type the word I've....not I,ve. Same goes for It's....not It,s. You should use an apostrophe instead of a comma in those cases. I have been noticing that you have been doing that in all of your posts, and just wanted to help you and suggest that you use an apostrophe instead of a comma in those instances.

Travis, you can find the apostrophe key right beside the enter key on your keyboard. That would be to the left of the enter key as well.

Good luck with that.

Joey

MountaineerDave 07-17-2003 03:32 PM

Well done, Joey. I have nothing to add there.

I like the Ravens in the AFC North, however, and have made note of this propensity on other occasions, often after Anthony claims they'll suck. Will they beat the Steelers? Not sure yet. I think they stand a better chance than the Browns and Bengals combined to knock off the Steelers, though.

I think this will be a bad year for the Cowboys, Joey, but I actually believe that Parcells will have the team properly geared to go out and win, if only two games, the two games against their most heated rival. I work on the presumption that Parcells, being in a pass-heavy division, will work hard on pass defense. The Redskins will continue to not run the ball, and that will be their undoing. Beating the Giants and Eagles will be tougher, because they have decidedly more respectable running games.

Dave

TRAVIS13 07-17-2003 04:45 PM

1. I forgot about that eagle part. sorry. yes it was the giants. don,t know where my brain went.

2. yes but i can make a predicition anyway. first year or not. parcels knows his business and that is the point. best coach going.

3. tough schedule? how do you really know that. you,re talking out of school joey. we don,t know that for sure now. teams never always work out good or bad like people say they will.

4. why do you say that? spurrier was a joke terrible coach last year and parcels is the best there is. just wait and see about it.

5. i know he,s a mommas boy by his face on the sidelines. have you ever seen another nfl coach look so much rediculous like that? come on now joey. i don,t know his family much but i know his dad did not do that boy right.

6. what i mean about lewis is that he,ll beat down his own guys in practice if they don,t get with the program. he,s hungry to win and he takes no crap.

7. steelers?? HA....never will they win a big playoff game with that coach they have. bill COWARD. LOL not scared of them.

8. ok then we,ll see about it.

9. maybe this keyboard is kind of broken joey. i know english is not my best anyway so bear with me on that.

I can see that if dave is agreing with you then you,ll be wrong about most of it joey. lolol.....just joking dave. i love you.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

poptart 07-17-2003 07:05 PM

Well............

t13 is a bit uhh......RAW in his presentation, but I agree with a number of his points.

Not sure what that says about me. :eek:

1. I like what Parcells brings to the table.

2. Dallas MIGHT be a lot better than people think. Their D-backfield will be real good and they "culture" of that team will make a dramatic switch with Parcells taking over for Mr Magoo, Campo.

3. Travis is right about the schedule thing. You can't guage strength of schedule at the beginning of the season. It's too unpredictable these days.

4. Hutchinson will be better than people think.

5. Not sure if Spurrier lacked strong male guidance lol, but he IS a weenie-to-the-max to look at on the sideline and he DID do a subpar job last year. I would not be surprised to see Dallas whip his behind a couple of times.

6. The Ravens will be better too. I don't agree with t13 that they'll be the AFC champ, but better, yes.

7. Brian Billick fighting Bill Cowher would be cool. ;)

8. The Ravens have a SCARY set of 'backers.

9. Travis needs a new keyboard.......or something.

9a. I love Dave too. :D

MountaineerDave 07-17-2003 09:26 PM

Holy crap, it's a lovefest!!

Travis, you realize that I agreed with you on the Ravens. If I'm wrong so often, you realize that they're doomed, then, don'tcha.

I agree with poptart (again!dammit) Billick v Cowher would be cool.

I wish my team (the Steelers) had a coach like Billick. He's a horse's ass, but that Ravens team last year was supposed to win four games. They won seven WITHOUT Ray Lewis.

Dave

Ellis 07-17-2003 10:35 PM

I think the Lions,Jags, and maybe dallas will do well due to there new coaches. Ravens will have the best d, but with the aweful offence they won't go anywhere. Dallas will have there ups and downs but and i don't see them winning more than 10 games.

Anthony 07-18-2003 03:03 AM

If you go simplistically by who will improve the most over where they finished last year, the obvious "sleepers" would be the Rams and the Bears - with a sharp drop in schedule difficulty (definitely) and less chaos at quarterback (hopefully), there is no reason why St. Louis (7-9 a year ago) can't literally go all the way in 2003; and with fewer injuries (it would be almost a miracle if they don't have fewer than they had in 2002), the Bears will be well within themselves to win at least eight games this year, which would be four more than they won last season.

But if you don't subscribe to this way of thinking, then what about the Chargers? True, the late-season fades have left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, but let's not overlook the fact that San Diego has gone from 1-15 to 5-11 to 8-8 in just two years; and with Bobby Beathard's calamitous quick-fix policies one year further in the rear-view mirror, this could be the year that the Chargers forget to stop down the stretch and hold on for at least a playoff berth, if not the AFC West title.

MountaineerDave 07-18-2003 03:33 AM

I'm actually with you on SD, Anthony. I think the AFC West has the potential for complete reversal this season, with Denver (probable) and Oakland (less likely, but an injured Gannon is a dead Raiders O) finishing in third & fourth, behind KC (less likely, but who knows?) and SD.

The Chargers have all the pieces on offense, now. Brees, Tomlinson, Boston. I'd be a little concerned about their D, though.

Dave

TexasNative 07-18-2003 09:09 AM

I'm as big of a Cowboy fan as anyone here. And the fact remains that you are not 5-7 two years in a row because of bad coaching, though they did have that.

Your 5-7 two years in a row because of talent. The talent on offense has been gone. No QB. No RB. No WR. No TE.

Dallas will get better under Parcells. No question about that.

Heathen 07-18-2003 12:22 PM

Seahawks will be in the Superbowl this year.

You heard it here first people.

MountaineerDave 07-18-2003 04:43 PM

Tex- I agree with you to a point. You really have to compare the 'Boys' talent to what they play, and while they are weak offensively compared to the rest of their division, their defense should be fairly good. That'll work in their favor. They definitely lack obvious talent at QB and RB. Antonio Bryant is as talented a second-year WR in the league, however. Only problem there is that if Terry Glenn is teaching him... well, Glenn's not the world's best role model. And I think Witten could be the right TE for a Parcells' team, so I wouldn't cash in on him just yet. The real problem will be up front. Johnson will be a part of the solution. Coaching will also be a huge plus for the guys up front.

Heathen-- There're just too many possibilities in the NFL these days. I think the 'Hawks have as good a chance as anybody from the NFC West (I fully believe that Warner will prove himself to be the fraud I've been claiming he was without health as an excuse; I don't think the Niners will be able to find the end zone, and may struggle to keep folks out of it, and, well, the Cards are the Cards.)

Dave

TRAVIS13 07-18-2003 10:09 PM

Seattle isn,t going to win didly squat and that is for certain. There coach is the same as denvers dud mike shanahan who can,t win with out john elway. well mike homlgren can,t win without brent farve. Never has and never will. take that too the bank. He looks like that fat golfer guy and nobody can really take him to serious. Farve was special and he won anyway. They don,t have anybody like that in seattle so forget that.
Dave you,ve said some things that were bad but nothing as bad as saying that warner is a fraud. He happened to be a league mvp buddy boy!!!!! Tell me any league mvp who was a fraud. man don,t be a dummy. warner has over a 98 qb rating for his life. He,s a classic qb and one of the best in the business. Are you just trying to say wierd things on purpose?

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!

Marc 07-19-2003 10:09 PM

A couple sleeper teams:

1. Seattle -- Yes, they have a couple receivers in Koren Robinson and Darrell Jackson who are really going to breakout. They were on a tear in the second-half of 2002, along with Matt Hasselback, who finished red-hot. If Shaun Alexander can give them more consistent running and their defense makes strides, they could win around nine games.

2. San Diego -- Assuming David Boston's injury woes are behind him, I really like the young nucleus of this team. They have the runner in Tomlinson, the passer in Brees, and the aforementioned Boston. Scary. Consider it the poor man's Manning/James/Harrison.

3. Baltimore -- They are recovering from salary cap hell and with the return of Jamal Lewis and Ray Lewis, I think they could win nine or 10. Billick practically got them there last year without anybody -- he's a great coach.

4. Cleveland -- I also think the Browns are going to continue their upward climb. William Green really came on late last year and is going to be a Pro Bowl-level player eventually. Their young receivers such as Quincy Morgan have a lot of upside, as well.

P.S. Travis: it's BRETT FAVRE, not Brent Farve. And keyboards are really cheap, like $10. Maybe you could get your mommy or daddy to pick one up for you. ;)

Fallfever 07-20-2003 02:40 AM

I agree about Seattle, but I would say that they won "about" 9 games last year while playing many games with no starting linebackers and many injuries to their offensive line as well. I think this team did very well to put together 7 wins considering that. This year they are fairly deep except at linebacker. They are better than they look an I would put them at 11-5 barring major injuries and somewhat hinging on Hassleback's performance. I sleep good at night knowing that we have Dilfer on the bench who can put up no frills wins, but if Hassleback can find the groove he was in last year, we could win 12 or 13. I know that's a BIG if.
But hey, I'm optimistic about the Seahawks every year, but in the NW its not like we have a lot of choice. Go hawks!!

Anthony 07-20-2003 08:41 AM

True, the Seahawks do take a big drop in schedule difficulty from what they faced in 2002 - indeed, they're getting the most favorable year-over-year change in the entire NFL - but unfortunately all three of their division rivals will see their schedules soften by almost as much (this is a feature of the new schedule format that accompanied the recent realignment). Until proven otherwise, both St. Louis and San Francisco clearly have better personnel than Seattle, so even a second-place finish in the NFC West - with or without a wild card - would have to be considered an upset.

TRAVIS13 07-20-2003 12:02 PM

Yeah ok thanks marc. I know i get his name messed up sometimes. I,ve never seen a name as wierd as it is. ok favre. Why did he put the v before the r anyway? Oh well. Yeah it,s brett to i know. sorry. I know you are a packer fan and i really do like favre a lot. He,s a great player.
I have on a budget at college so even if a keyboard is cheap i might not be able to get it. Beers and babes always comes first.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kornbix 07-20-2003 04:55 PM

You have got to be kidding me. Dallas go 11-5? HAHAHAHHAHAHHA that was about the funniest thing I've seen all day.

rickcoyle 07-20-2003 05:08 PM

first of all this is for you t13, i know how to spell favre and im not a packer fan. But enough with that. Bill Parcells may help the team this year, may or may not. Maybe theyll win a few a more games. Whoop de fricken doo! The fact is that a coach alone dont make a great team. You talent. The cowboys have no talent. I venture to say they are one of the least talented teams out there.


You have got to be kidding me. Dallas go 11-5? HAHAHAHHAHAHHA that was about the funniest thing I've seen all day.~Kornbix~

yeah kornbix i agree completely.

TRAVIS13 07-20-2003 09:45 PM

Ok kornbix and rick you laugh now but he who laughs hardest laughs last. There is a thng now in the nfl called parity. A great coach can make a great difference and if you don,t regocnize that you need a lesson on football. Dallas already had a pretty good defense last year and they will have one of thebest defenseive secondarys in the whole league. Defense gets it done in the nfl boys. Parcells will find a way. And when it happens guess who i,m going to be laughing at. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ellis 07-20-2003 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TRAVIS13
Ok kornbix and rick you laugh now but he who laughs hardest laughs last. There is a thng now in the nfl called parity. A great coach can make a great difference and if you don,t regocnize that you need a lesson on football. Dallas already had a pretty good defense last year and they will have one of thebest defenseive secondarys in the whole league. Defense gets it done in the nfl boys. Parcells will find a way. And when it happens guess who i,m going to be laughing at. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well first off, a coach can make a diffrence but you are acting like with bill as coach,the players will sudenly be good. You act like he is going to run on the feild and throw td passes and run for tds.

You wish they will be 11-5. try turning that around to 5-11.

They have no qb or rb. they stand no chance.

And by the way,i bet you could cut down on beer for one night to get a key board.

Kornbix 07-20-2003 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TRAVIS13
Ok kornbix and rick you laugh now but he who laughs hardest laughs last. There is a thng now in the nfl called parity. A great coach can make a great difference and if you don,t regocnize that you need a lesson on football. Dallas already had a pretty good defense last year and they will have one of thebest defenseive secondarys in the whole league. Defense gets it done in the nfl boys. Parcells will find a way. And when it happens guess who i,m going to be laughing at. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Travis the retard, Dallas has absolutely NO talent. They let their legend go in Emmit Smith. Who is their QB? Quincy Carter who throws about 5 picks a game? And Chad Hutchinson did no better. Best defense? What have you been smoking?

And lord help me if your the starting QB for your team. Lord help me if you ain't a 40 year old beer belly guy sitting at home making these lies.

k bix is out !!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony 07-21-2003 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kornbix
Travis the retard, Dallas has absolutely NO talent. They let their legend go in Emmit Smith. Who is their QB? Quincy Carter who throws about 5 picks a game? And Chad Hutchinson did no better. Best defense? What have you been smoking?

And lord help me if your the starting QB for your team. Lord help me if you ain't a 40 year old beer belly guy sitting at home making these lies.

k bix is out !!!!!!!!!!!


Personally I couldn't agree less with Travis about the Cowboys, but could we please refrain from name-calling on this forum? [Of course I'm referring to name-calling directed at fellow posters; doing it to some lousy player - or coach, or owner - is another matter entirely!:lol:]

TRAVIS13 07-21-2003 09:00 AM

Emmitt is washed up anyway so it,s good that he is gone. Hutchinson will be pretty good and the defense will be one of the better one,s in the nfc. Those are to answer your questions kornbix. My dad is in his middle fortys not me.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rickcoyle 07-21-2003 09:41 AM

Okay t13 explain to me why you think Hutchinson will be okay. He absolutely sucked. So if sucking means that next year you turn out to be great then why arent the bengals winning the super bowl? Ive only been here one month and I already have realized that you are the biggest moron in this community. Everytime you say something you just get ripped apart. Take a hint.

TRAVIS13 07-21-2003 10:27 AM

Remember when everybody said that trent dilfer sucked??? Yeah, nod your head. Ok. LOLOLOL Dallas will win with defense and parcels knows how to coach quarterbacks. Look at his history that way. Hutchinson will be pretty good and that is all they need. He barely had a chance last year anyway and dave campo didn,t know anything how tocoach. Nobody in the nfc east is any good anyway. Eagles are going down hill now and anthoney already talked about that. Giants same. Washington sucks and their coach is a girl and sucks the very most. Nope it,s all dallas this year. They have the coach. It,s my predicition. so sorry if it bothers you to much.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony 07-24-2003 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TRAVIS13
Remember when everybody said that trent dilfer sucked??? Yeah, nod your head. Ok. LOLOLOL Dallas will win with defense and parcels knows how to coach quarterbacks. Look at his history that way. Hutchinson will be pretty good and that is all they need. He barely had a chance last year anyway and dave campo didn,t know anything how tocoach. Nobody in the nfc east is any good anyway. Eagles are going down hill now and anthoney already talked about that. Giants same. Washington sucks and their coach is a girl and sucks the very most. Nope it,s all dallas this year. They have the coach. It,s my predicition. so sorry if it bothers you to much.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry Travis, but there is no comparing Trent Dilfer, a first-round draft choice, with Chad Hutchinson, who wasn't even drafted at all the year he came out. And of course Dilfer "sucked" in his early years - he came out of a small college, and these guys almost always need more time to develop than a quarterback who played his college ball at say, Miami of Florida. If Hutchinson is so great, then why did he go into baseball instead of least trying to catch on in, say, the CFL or even Europe? With him, what you see is what you get - and I for one see absolutely nothing!

TRAVIS13 07-24-2003 01:25 PM

Ok that is fine anthony then. I,ll bring up this topic again about half way in the seaon at week 8 or 9 or something and we can talk about it some more ok? Oh and why did bo jackson play baseball? Maybe he liked it.

t13 is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cowboy22 07-24-2003 06:53 PM

HOLD ON! I'm 'bout sick of all the cheap shots you people are throwing on Dallas.

I'm not a huge Hambrick fan (however, I like him just because he is a Cowboy). But the man is good. He carried for a 4-yard average last year, after heading a 5.1 average in 2001. The man can run. If you can't see that, than you are blind! But his stamina is the main concern here. Add in Richie Anderson, a brutal blocker, third-down back Michael Wiley and the new back Aevion Cason and the Maurice Carthon (Off. Line/RBs coach) can easily turn this into a dangerous backfield. You can add H-Back Dan Campbell to that list too, I suppose.

Every one is hating Chad Hutchinson. I can't figure out why. He sucks? No...no he doesn't. If anyone even watched this player, you would know that he doesn't suck. Look at his history....look at the stats....look at the situation. They would all suggest that Hutchinson was put in at QB at a bad place, bad time. A 66.3 rating may have come from the casualties of the Offensive Line who was one of the worst in the league. 34 SACKS! Nobody can endure that and remain a good QB. Secondly, Hutchinson had not played since 1997! Thirdly, he was not a mature player and was pushed on the field too soon. Last season, Dallas should've stuck with Q. Carter. If you still deny Hutchinson's ability, look at his flashes of brilliance....the 49ers game...the Jacksonville game. Look at the fight in this kid. When the Giants were brutally laying a whooping on the Cowboys, Hutchinson refused to give up. So before you nay-sayers dare to criticize this man, I ask you to look at him.

The defense is indeed one of the best in the league...no one can deny it. If Ebenezer Ekuban ever reaches his potential and take away the double-teams from Ellis, they can bring some more pressure to the QB. Not to mention La'Roi Glover, a Pro Bowler, and a decent starter in Michael Myers. The linebacking squad is one that Parcells has little love for, but is good. Dat Nguyen is a very solid linebacker...but small. Dexter Coakley is a Pro Bowl-calibur player who gets INTs as well as tackles. And they get Al Singleton...an upgrade from Kevin Hardy who was disappointing.

The secondary is realling one of the best with a young secondary with one veteran leader. Derek Ross comes off a 5-INT year alongside Terrence Newman (can anyone deny him?). Roy Williams is a very VERY good player...possibly the league's best safety this year. And Darren Woodson...the only link to the Cowboys 3 Rings in 4 Years Team.


AFTER SAYING ALL THAT: I still disagree with the Cowboys having a good season. Maybe a 5-11, 6-10, or if a good season, 7-9. I have some beef though...I always thought the better teams played the better teams and worse-off teams played the worse-off teams. If that's true, then why does Dallas play the New York Jets (returning playoff team), Atlanta Falcons (or should I say Michael Vick), Buffalo Bills (with a better defense), New England Patriots (SB champs from two January's ago), Miami Dolphins (always a playoff contender), New Orleans Saints (should've made the playoffs), and worst of all...THE RETURNING SUPER BOWL CHAMPS...TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS!!!

MountaineerDave 07-24-2003 11:08 PM

The schedule is no longer based on position of finish anymore, with the exception of two? games. Six games in division. Four games against a division in conference. Four games in a division from the other conference. One game against a similarly positioned team from each conference for the other two games. Parcells "lucked" into playing against two teams he coached in the AFC East, since the AFC East plays the NFC East this season. While I'm not familiar with the Cowboys' schedule off the top of my head, looks like they play the NFC South. Gonna be a bad time in Irving, TX.

Meanwhile, 22, I agree that Hutchinson will have a slightly better opportunity to show his stuff this year, with some coaching going on around and toward him. Last year was a joke. Campo, as a head coach, is a joke. And Coslet as an OC is a joke. Fortunately, they're gone (did Coslet end up somewhere, btw?; if he did, I need to bet the under on that team).

As for Hambrick: Parcells is going to have to want to give him the ball. The 'Boys report tomorrow, right? Is he going to come in at the weight Parcells wants him at? Parcells will bench him just to prove a point, let's see if Hambrick can respond to some real coaching, or if he hightails it for the locker room.

Dave

Cowboy22 07-27-2003 01:44 AM

I've never liked Hambrick's attitude but if there's a head coach in the NFL to get it under control, Parcells is the man to do it.

By the way, Dave, excellent point on Bruce Coslet. I had forgotten him...(or maybe blocked him out of my head.) Giving Emmitt 8-10 carries in a couple games was just horrible coaching. Man, I hate Coslet...

Anthony 07-27-2003 03:59 AM

If Parcells has told Hambrick to report to camp at a certain weight, then Parcells is a narcissistic idiot. If someone is playing effectively at a certain weight, then what's the big deal - Babe Ruth was, clinically speaking, at least 50 pounds "overweight" at the peak of his career.

Which brings up one of my favorite jokes: Bengals fullback Pete Johnson once told a reporter that he was going to show up at training camp the following year at 230 - prompting the scribe to ask him, "Would that be A.M. or P.M.?"

MountaineerDave 07-28-2003 01:48 PM

I'm not quite sure I understand the jab at Parcells, Anthony. He's the coach. He has a much better idea of what's effective, and I would certainly understand if he declared Hambrick as ineffective. Add to that the fact that Hambrick came to spring camps HEAVIER than he was during the season last year, and I think you can take your jealous jabs at Parcells, who is somewhat likely to dethrone your Eagles by 2005 (if the Gints can't do it before then), off the shelf and pull something down that means something.

Dave

Anthony 07-29-2003 12:20 PM

Dave, if a player is productive on the field, who cares what some stupid scale says? (Although personally I'm not convinced that Hambrick will ever be an elite runner is this league, at any weight.)

And second, they're not "my" Eagles - it's just that my parents (and older brother) have stuck it out with this team for 25 years, and I don't want my dad to go the way of a close personal friend and former neighbor of his who was a lifelong Giants fan: He died of a heart attack in December of 1986 (he was in his late fifties); one month later the Giants finally won their first Super Bowl (they beat Denver).

Of course with the current bunch running the show in Philly, I'll be lucky if I live to see the Eagles win a Super Bowl, let alone my parents!

poptart 11-14-2003 01:33 AM

Brought this thread back for "entertainment purposes" only.

11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5 11-5............


:D


Enjoy


:)

Ellis 11-14-2003 02:26 PM

lol. good times


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