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suedon1970 05-06-2007 09:44 PM

Playoffs: (2) Suns vs. (3) Spurs
 
And round 1 goes to the Spurs:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6783330

Nash sustained quite a nasty gash on his nose after his collision with Tony Parker......

Marino13 05-08-2007 02:12 PM

That was disgusting

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...dynash_412.jpg

tobynosker 05-08-2007 03:01 PM

But not nearly as disgusting as the beatdown Nash experienced from Tony Parker in the game.

Marino13 05-08-2007 06:33 PM

Nash had just as good of a game as Parker, if not better. 31 and 32 points respectively, each with 8 assists....but Nash turned the ball over 3 times to Parkers 6 and Nash had 3 rebounds to Parkers 1.

He probably would have had even better numbers had he played down the stretch

Marc 05-08-2007 07:23 PM

Pistons/Spurs, here we go...

Stupid comment by Mike D'Antoni saying his team is more invididually talented, but the Spurs are better collectively. That's his job to make his players play better as a team...

tobynosker 05-09-2007 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marino13
Nash had just as good of a game as Parker, if not better. 31 and 32 points respectively, each with 8 assists....but Nash turned the ball over 3 times to Parkers 6 and Nash had 3 rebounds to Parkers 1.

He probably would have had even better numbers had he played down the stretch

I never said Steve Nash had a poor outing in game one, but isn't an MVP in the postseason expected to produce MVP-like numbers while limiting the production of the opposing player? Like Shawn Marion managed to do last night against Tony Parker?

Coming into last night's game, Parker was averaging 29 points per game this season against Phoenix, which is nine points above his season average. In every game this season against the Suns that Parker has managed to score over 20 points per game in, San Antonio has won. When Parker is held to his average or lower (like last night), the Spurs have lost.

Marino13 05-09-2007 01:08 PM

I don't necessarily agree with that comment that "an MVP in the postseason expected to produce MVP-like numbers while limiting the production of the opposing player"

Nash has been the MVP for his offensive contributions and getting his team to play better...distributing the ball and increasing tempo. He's never been known as a defensive point gaurd. Every team seems to have higher than average stats vs Phoenix because they shoot the ball so early in the shot clock and thus give the opposition more posessions...not to mention the fact that they don't put as much emphasis on defense.

bama4256 05-10-2007 01:56 PM

The bloody nose will become as famous as the bloody sock.:thumbup:

Pimpbot 05-11-2007 11:27 AM

What are your thoughts on Amare Stoudemire's comments about the Spurs dirty play? Having had the benefit of watching in slow motion, Bowen's kick of Amare's heels in game two, I have to agree with him, especially when I saw Bowen kick Nash in the head while stepping over him. I'm also sick of Tim Duncan and his constant whining!

da12ken 05-13-2007 12:23 AM

If officiating can range from a flawless 0 (2002 World Cup Final) to downright corrupt 10 (basketball finals at the 1972 Summer Olympics), I think game 3 a was 6 or 7.

Phoenix could very well have won that game if not the refs were more competent.

I've been a defender of Bowen for awhile but his latest antics, which include kicking Amare (CLEARLY intentionally) and kneeing Nashin the groin (incidental)... I mean, the circumstantial evidence has acculumated over the years for the "dirty player" label to be justified.

Marc 05-13-2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpbot (Post 245390)
What are your thoughts on Amare Stoudemire's comments about the Spurs dirty play? Having had the benefit of watching in slow motion, Bowen's kick of Amare's heels in game two, I have to agree with him, especially when I saw Bowen kick Nash in the head while stepping over him. I'm also sick of Tim Duncan and his constant whining!

It's more than an isolated incident. Numerous star players have made the same accusations and I think there is some truth to it. I don't like the Spurs one bit. There is video evidence, something should be done, especially since the league came down so hard on Kobe.

As for this series, I think it will go six or seven easily. I'm pulling for the Suns!

da12ken 05-14-2007 03:32 AM

The league is taking a look at Bowen's knee to Nash's groin from game 3. It'll be interesting to see if 1) the league imposes a fine/suspension on Bruce and 2) how Bowen's defense will be affected for the rest of the series now that he knows Stern and Co. are keeping a close tab.

boston_aloha 05-15-2007 01:48 AM

Horry's forarm tonight doesnt help either... I wonder if there will be any suspensions after tonight's game?

da12ken 05-15-2007 02:02 AM

Horry is definitely gone for game 5. I expect Amare and Boris to sit too, since they broke a dumbass rule.

Pimpbot 05-15-2007 10:37 AM

By the letter of the law, then yes, both Amare and Boris should be out for Wednesdays game, but it would be a harsh call on either imo. Sure, if Amare had got involved in the pushing and shoving then he deserves it, but he never got involved from what I saw. This is the NBA's fault for not stamping down on the earlier issues in the series.

HibachiDG 05-15-2007 07:33 PM

By the letter of the law, I'm not so sure Amare and Boris should be suspended. The letter of the law says they can't come off of the bench for an "altercation". Boris and Amare got up in response to Nash getting checked into the boards. Which is a foul, not an altercation.

Now, if you come off the bench and an altercation occurs, you're a catalyst for the altercation. In this case, they went back before taking part in or escalating the altercation.

By the letter of the law, they should not have been suspended. If the NBA wanted to stretch it in the most rigid manner possible, then they could choose to do so, but I don't think that is a good move...although they have done so.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...ory?id=2871615

Marc 05-16-2007 01:20 PM

I have to agree. And the worst part is it puts the Suns at a severe disadvantage that could alter the outcome of the series.

boston_aloha 05-18-2007 09:42 PM

This is why I have trouble watching the NBA. What are these stupid rules about leaving the bench?? They had footage of Duncan leaving the bench earlier and walking out to the 3 point line on a different play... so whats the rule? Or is it case by case?
Suspending Horry 2 games (a bench player) and Amare (a playmaker) one game is BS.
They should not of suspended anyone and just fined Horry for the forarm. Let them play!!
Just when I start giving the NBA a chance again, this crap happens...

doublee 05-18-2007 10:02 PM

See I tend to disagree simply because this is a rule that has been in place for several years now and everyone knows you do not leave the bench when an altercation is occurring on the floor. It is not as though this is some new rule that was just instituted before the playoffs.

Horry had to be suspended otherwise the league is setting itself up for a brawl by the end of this series. As for Diaw and Amare the rule is the rule it has been there for years and they know they are supposed to stay put in that instance.

boston_aloha 05-18-2007 10:44 PM

But then I ask why was Duncan not suspended when he left the bench on that other play?
To me it looks like the NBA is catoring to the Spurs. The Suns got hosed IMO.

da12ken 05-19-2007 01:28 AM

I wrote on this my blog and I'll repeat it.

According to the current rules if an NBA player leaves the bench during an altercation to perform CPR on a fallen teammate he would get suspended.

The league has to base penalties on intent and action instead of some arbitrary black and white guideline. Diaw and Stoudemire wanted to interject themselves into the fray but clearly and quickly retracted. Their natural reactions shouldn't warrant suspensions. What is the NBA actually penalizing in this instance: which players have the quickest Pavlovian response not to react?

doublee 05-19-2007 11:25 AM

And Duncan made no discernible action to interject himself into activity on the court which is why he did not get suspended. Let us not kid ourselves here if Amare had not been pulled back he would have joined into the fray. You see guys step over the sidelines around the bench all the time when the action is not over on that area of the floor.

da12ken 05-19-2007 02:51 PM

The reason Duncan didn't get suspended was because there wasn't an "altercation" during that play.

I agree Amare was going to join the fray if he wasn't pulled back and if there was no bench rule... but who knows what he would have done? Maybe he would've stopped at saying some harsh words to Horry and the Spurs. Does that warrant a suspension?

bama4256 05-21-2007 02:39 PM

it appears to me that SA is the strongest of all the teams in the playoffs.


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