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Old 08-13-2006, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default Best Players at each Position in the Bigs

Here is a chance for everyone to weigh in with their opinions. List a player or 2 in each league.
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:24 AM   #2
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Catcher --Atlanta-Brian McCann
1B --Philadelphia-Ryan Howard
2B --Houston-Craig Biggio
3B --New York-Alex Rodriquez
SS --New York-Derek Jeter
LF --Boston-Manny Ramirez
CF --Atlanta-Andruw Jones
RF --Atlanta-Jeff Francoeur
SP --Boston-Curt Schilling
set-up RP --Detroit-Joel Zumaya
Closer --New York-Mariano Rivera

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Old 08-14-2006, 11:50 AM   #3
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Second thought, I would have to place 2nd baseman Mark DeRosa on my team.:thumbup:
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Old 08-14-2006, 02:16 PM   #4
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What? How could you have DeRosa over Soriano? And Francoeur the best RF? How about Vlad or Ichiro?
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:09 PM   #5
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Well, Soriano is not technically an outfielder so I don't know that you could rate him as the best 2B in the game.

Francouer over Dye, Vladi, or Ichiro is lunacy.
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Old 08-14-2006, 08:04 PM   #6
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Let's see for best in baseball:

C- I'll go with Joe Mauer.
1B - Pujols. Howard may have more homers and RBIs but Pujols pretty much beats him in everything else and Howard does not hold a candle to Pujols defensively.
2B - Chase Utley. DeRosa has actually logged more innings in the OF this year than he has at second so Utley gets the nod.
SS - Jeter.
3B - I'll go with David Wright. A-Rod's defense is just killing the Yankees these days and that moves him a few spots down the list.
LF - Man-Ram.
CF - Carlos Beltran gets the slight nod over Jones. He just has slightly better all-around numbers and is a comparable defender.
RF - I'll give Dye the nod here.
SP - A tough one. I would have said Liriano but he is hurt and there really is nobody else who stands out as being dominant right now so I'll go with Brandon Webb.
Setup - Zumaya is as good a choice as any.
Closer - Mariano gets the nod until Papelbon shows he can get it done when it really matters.
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Well, Soriano is not technically an outfielder so I don't know that you could rate him as the best 2B in the game.
True, but he did play 2B for a few years when he was with the Yankees and Rangers.
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:42 AM   #8
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AL
C-Ivan Rodriguez, Joe Mauer
1B-Paul Konerko, Mark Texeira
2B-Brian Roberts
3B-Alex Rodriguez, Eric Chavez
SS-Miguel Tejada, Michael Young
LF-Manny Ramirez
CF-Carl Crawford, Johnny Damon
RF-Vlad Guerrero, Ichiro Suzuki
DH-David Ortiz, Travis Hafner, Jim Thome
SP-Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling
RP-Scot Shields
CLOSER-Bobby Jenks, Papelbon

NL
C-Russ Martin
1B-Albert Pujols, Derrick Lee
2B-Jeff Kent
3B-Scott Rolen, David Wright
SS-David Eckstein
LF-Miguel Cabrera, Alfonso Soriano
CF-Carlos Beltran, Andruw Jones
RF-Brian Giles, Shawn Green
SP-Brandon Webb, Chris Carpenter
RP-Braden Looper
CLOSER-Billy Wagner, Jason Isringhausen
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Ok, these are my best guys for their position, nothing to do with their offense. I saw someone had Joe Mauer as best catcher. He's not even close, he's a good hitter that is a catcher. Or Howard for best 1B, he's not that great at first, he just has great offense.

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C - Pudge Rodriguez - Detroit - come on, he's # 1 in that position
1B - Travis Lee - TB - has a 99.8 fielding %
2B - Mark Ellis - Oakland - same reason as Lee, only 1 error
3B - Mike Lowell - Boston - 99 fielding %, only a few errors
SS - Michael Young - Texas - Jeter's had too many errors this year
LF - Manny Ramirez - Boston - few errors, great fielding %
CF - Brian Anderon - Chicago - 100% fielding
RF - Alex Rios - Toronto, you guys seen his arm? he can go from RF to
3B or home with pinpoint accuracy and no bounces.
SP - Justion Verlander - Detroit - has the wins and a low ERA.
RP - Joel Zumaya - Detroit - helped Tigers out a lot this year
Closer - Bobby Jenks - Chicago - MLB leader in saves and Save %

NL
C - Brad Ausmus - Houston - tough choice, just went with Ausmus
1B - Scott Hatteberg - Cinci - doesn't do anything wrong, solid at first
2B - Jamey Carroll - Colorado or Jose Vidro - Washington, both don't commit
many mistakes
3B - Corey Koskie - Milwaukee - always accurate throw to first
SS - Omar Vizquel - San Fran - solid at SS - 99.4 fielding %, only a couple
errors
LF - Luis Gonzalez - 100% fielding and 0 errors, can't argue with the numbers
CF - Andruw Jones - Atlanta - great, strong arm
RF - **Bobby Abreu - Philly/NYY - i know he's in the AL now, but he's only
had 1 error and did spend majority of the season in NL
SP - Brandon Webb - Arizona - 13 wins and a low 2.77 ERA
RP - Scott Linebrink - San Diego - NL leading 24 holds
Closer - Jason Isringhausen - St. Louis, Billy Wagner - NY, kind of a given

There's my list. I'd love to hear what someone has to say about it. Remember, this is who I think is best at their position, not counting offensive production, obviously Travis Lee is not that great of an all-round player, but he is great at first.

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I was going by what players I would want at each position, not just their defense. If I was doing that then some of my picks would change for sure.

I agree with a lot of Hounds picks for defense, a few I disagree with are Manny Ramirez who is known for his clumsy play in LF and I also think Scott Rolen is the best defensive 3B in the NL if not in all of baseball. I would probably have Yadier Molina, Mike Matheny and Russ Martin ahead of Ausmus at catcher in the NL. I would also go with Derrick Lee at 1B in the NL. Vizquel is a legend at SS but I would like to throw Izturis in there as well but you do have to go with Vizquel. Other than Manny though I think an arguement can be made for all of Hounds picks.
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What? How could you have DeRosa over Soriano? And Francoeur the best RF? How about Vlad or Ichiro?
Francouer isn't there yet as a hitter but he can play the position as well or better than anyone right now.
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Hound, I think you place a bit too much emphasis on fielding percentage as opposed to the guys overall defensive prowess.

Take Omar Vizquel for example. He is still good but he doesn't have the range in the field that guys like Eckstein and Adam Everett do. Everett and Eckstein get to more balls than Vizquel does these days.

Your assessment of taking Young over Jeter is a bit weak as they both have the same amount of errors. Saying Jeter has too many errors as opposed to Young doesn't wash. Besides Jeter only has 9 errors which puts him in a tie for sixth fewest in baseball at the position.

Man-Ram is nowhere near the best defensive LF in the AL. He may have a low number of errors but he is also at the botto of baseball in Range Factor which means he makes the fewest number of plays per 9 innings of any left fielder who qualifies for the league lead in fielding percentage. Luis Gonzalez is not much better when comes to his range in the field either. Same can be said about Abreu in right. One of the biggest criticisms of Abreu in Philly was that he often loafed after balls in the outfield.
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Francouer isn't there yet as a hitter but he can play the position as well or better than anyone right now.
He leads the league with 7 errors in RF and is in the lower half in range factor as well.
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He leads the league with 7 errors in RF and is in the lower half in range factor as well.
His errors have mostly come from trying to throw everyone out from RF he'll learn, he's young and will get better I agree he isn't there yet.
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His errors have mostly come from trying to throw everyone out from RF he'll learn, he's young and will get better I agree he isn't there yet.
Exactly, which makes him not the best RF in the major leagues.
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