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Old 10-25-2002, 02:20 AM   #1
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Default Rich Gannon, a Hall of Famer?

Quite possibly the best QB in the AFC for the past 3 years, but spend almost half of his career as a backup. If he continues to put up those numbers, will he be a Hall of Famer?

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Old 10-25-2002, 12:12 PM   #2
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I think he will make it into the Hall of Fame....I mean he has been an elite player for like you said 3 years now. He might need a couple of more good seasons to assure himself as a definite Hall of Famer, but I think Gannon will eventually get inducted!

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Old 10-25-2002, 01:27 PM   #3
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Absolutely not. Jim Kelly was a bit of a reach, and Gannon is a big one. I've been in his corner for years now, and he's certainly one of the best QBs in the league today, but let's reserve the Hall of Fame for the truly elite.

Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway, Rich Gannon

One of those names does not belong. Gannon goes with Boomer Esiason and Phil Simms in the Hall of Very Good.
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Old 10-25-2002, 01:29 PM   #4
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At this point, no.

He has an opportunity to make it if one of the following happens.

1. He has another two or three years like the ones he has had the last three years.

2. He wins the Super Bowl.

Hurting his chances is just the fact that he got such a late start in his career at really having an opportunity to start and play full time.
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Old 10-25-2002, 10:26 PM   #5
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Definitely no. Brad took the words right out of my mouth. First, Gannon has yet to lead a team to the Super Bowl or win one yet. Two, he hasn't been playing at this high level long enough. He has zero league MVPs, to add insult to injury. He is one of the best QBs in the game, but being good for a few years doesn't make you HOF material. And I'll say it again ... look at the guys he's throwing to: two HOFers in Rice and Brown.
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Old 10-26-2002, 02:52 AM   #6
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Name me one current HOF quarterback that played on four different teams (as Gannon has: Vikings, Redskins, Chiefs and Raiders). Bet you there aren't any. Journeymen don't belong in Canton - which is why one of the "No" votes in the poll is mine.

But the Super Bowl thing really doesn't mean a whole lot; Dan Fouts didn't get to one either, and he's in there. And look at O.J. Simpson: The teams he played on had a combined record of 45-96-2, and yet no one even tried to use that as a "devil's advocate" argument for keeping him out (I won't get into all the things that happened after he retired!).

The point is that team records have no bearing on whether someone gets in the Hall of Fame - nor should they.
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:09 AM   #7
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Eric Dickerson!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:11 AM   #8
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Did Dickerson play quarterback?
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Old 10-26-2002, 03:14 AM   #9
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No but he was still a journeyman!
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Old 10-26-2002, 05:59 AM   #10
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When Dickerson went to the Raiders and then the Falcons he was clearly washed up - just like Franco Harris was when he went to Seattle. If he had any self-respect, he would have retired after he left the Colts. And he broke the all-time single-season rushing record in his second year in the league. Thus any comparison between him and Rich Gannon is an absolute non-starter.
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Old 10-26-2002, 08:07 AM   #11
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Quote:

The point is that team records have no bearing on whether someone gets in the Hall of Fame - nor should they.
Are you sure about that?

For any position other than QB I would basically agree with you here.

The QB handles the ball on EVERY offensive play. He is the player on the field most directly responsible for his team's success.

That being the case, yes, certainly his team's record is a factor in evaluating a given QB's credentials for possible entrance to the Hall.

In Gannon's case he will lack the longevity of a Fouts, for instance, so part of the case that would benefit him would be to lead his team all the way.
That, in combination with having 5 or 6 truly years as a QB in the league would quite possibly be enough to get him over the edge.
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Remember that all but the last year of O.J.'s ten-year NFL career was played in the pre-chuck-rule era, when teams that had thousand-yard runners seldom finished below .500 - and Buffalo's record from 1969 through 1977 was 43-82-2. Yet no one even tried to use that to say that Simpson didn't belong in the Hall.

So if a pre-1978 running back can get into Canton with his team having such a horrible winning percentage in games in which he played, it's hard to argue for keeping a post-1978 quarterback out solely because he never took a team all the way to a Super Bowl.
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Brad O, that "Hall of the Very Good" comment was classic. And I agree with it. He is one of the top QBs in the leagues today, but he hasn't yet earned a place among people like Joe Montana and Dan Marino.
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Old 10-27-2002, 03:51 AM   #14
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What do you guys think about Darren Woodsen, is he a Hall of Famer? Personally, I think he deserves to be in Canton, maybe even first ballot. For his career the 11-year vet has 1,235 tackles and 21 interceptions. He's had 100 or more tackles in 8 of 11 years in his brillant NFL tenure.

Here's a list of some others I believe will be in Canton a few years into eligability-

Randall Cunningham
Marvin Harrison
Marshall Faulk (first ballot)
Isaac Bruce
Jerome Bettis
Priest Holmes (if he keeps it up)
Curtis Martin
Eddie George
Shannon Sharpe (first ballot)
Warren Sapp
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Old 10-27-2002, 04:09 AM   #15
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My only definite disagreement is Randall Cunningham - Slobodan Milosevic has a better chance of winning the Nobel Peace Prize than Cunningham has of getting in the Hall of Fame.

And Harrison is right on the outer edge at this point, although he still has a lot of years left unless he gets seriously injured.
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