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Old 10-29-2004, 12:33 PM   #46
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1911802

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Old 10-31-2004, 11:31 PM   #47
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1913581
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What is the problem with a salary cap? I don't understand the players views.

What did the league outline for a salary cap? They said they wanted cost certainty. That 60% of all revenues go to the players instead of the 75% that it currently is. What is the problem?

Do the players not understand that you cannot spend more then you make. What is it about a salary cap they?

Can the cap number be DIRECTLY proportional to the revenues?

I just don't understand it. Can the new CBA not state that when the league makes more money, the salary cap increases as well, so the success of the league plays hand in hand with how much a player makes. How could the players possibly say no to this? Are the owners willing to offer this? A TRUE partnership, where the revenues are HONESTLY shared 60%/40%. Is there a problem with how teams claim revenues (what constitutes league revenue to money the owners make but don't count towards league revenues?)
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Old 11-04-2004, 05:39 PM   #48
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NhL are greeeeeeedy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-12-2004, 10:06 PM   #49
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At this point, it doesn't seem like that there will be an NHL season at all now. The All-Star Game cancelled and absolutely nothing positive on the horizon.
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Old 11-14-2004, 12:38 PM   #50
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At this point, it doesn't seem like that there will be an NHL season at all now. The All-Star Game cancelled and absolutely nothing positive on the horizon.
You're right.

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Why??????????
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Old 11-24-2004, 02:24 PM   #51
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I don't see why they expanded. They should un-expand.
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:02 PM   #52
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Lip service.... or are they just trying to look like the good guys?
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:49 PM   #53
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Bogus. That's what it is.
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:10 PM   #54
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As a Pens fan...I am really upset over the fact that these players want all this money. Big city's such as NY and LA can afford to pay for "big-name" players, while the Pens can't. I believe the NHLPA is to blame and the owners are right!
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The lookout has ceratinly improved the Swedish league .

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Old 12-07-2004, 07:23 PM   #56
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I don't see why they expanded. They should un-expand.
I agree with you. They expanded way too much and they are paying dearly for it. They thinned out the talent pool too much. They over extended themselves. Hasn't the league almost doubled in size since Bettman took over...it's close at least.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:46 PM   #57
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24% rollback on salaries, thats a huge step by the NHLPA. I think that from a PR standpoint it's going to be very hard for the owners to completely reject the proposal, it may not be "cost certainty" as the owners want, but a 1/4 overall salary reduction is a pretty big step.

It's big enough that you can't ignore it, yet it isn't wan the owners want, so either the NHLPA comes out looking like they are the good guy for offering such a sacrifice only to have the owners throw it back and say no, or the owners accept, and 5 years from now the salaries have increased 50% and the problem was never solved at all. It's a tough call....god, I'm hurting to see some NHL action so bad I almost want the owners to accept, even if it doesn't fix the problems, just so I can see some new games.
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Its not enough. Sure salaries will be cut by 24% but whats to stop them rising after that?

The owners need help in controlling themselves. Nothing short of a salary cap is good enough IMO.

But.... its a start.... we'll see what the league comes with on Tuesday.
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:25 PM   #59
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The luxury tax/revenue sharing could work. It isn't sure fire, but if the union and owners could tweak the luxury tax system so that it works out for both it's at least worth a shot.

I recall that Gary Bettman said that when revenue sharing/luxury tax was brought up before, that the owners were willing to give it a try if the NHLPA was willing to guarantee that it would stop losses, something the NHLPA would not do. Honestly, 45$ million is to high, the luxury tax needs to start at 35$million per team. Theres no reason that it MUST be a hard cap though, give luxury tax a shot, it's only 6 years.
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Old 12-18-2004, 02:05 PM   #60
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Rebuttal, ReRebuttal, ReReRebuttal... that's really all that's gone on lately. The NHL's offer was crap, why did they even make it??? I'm still on the NHL's side but their offer was pretty insulting and quite unrealistic... I thought the NHLPA's solution was plausible... I don't think the NHL NEEDS a cap... cap does NOT equal "cost certainty" IMO. The NHLPA's offer had a basis for mechanisms to be in place to control costs which I think could've been discussed. Bettman doesn't want "cost certainity," he wants a cap; otherwise, NHLPA & NHL would be talking NOW.
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