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Old 07-04-2008, 03:17 AM   #61
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The Labor Department issued two reports yesterday (Thursday) instead of one, as the result of Friday being a holiday; and while the one that was moved up wasn't that bad (the monthly report on non-farm payrolls), the other one, which received much less media attention - the weekly update of first-time jobless claims - may have signaled that the U.S. economy has fallen below the Mendoza Line, as it showed initial unemployment claims piercing the emotionally sensitive 400,000 barrier for the first time.

If that number remains above 400,000 week in and week out from here on, it is a huge plus for Barack Obama.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:04 AM   #62
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Well, no one wanted to comment on my statistical analysis of the economy under democrats and republicans...

Let's see if this get's any traction...

John McCain was asked about the fact that Viagra is covered by most insurance, yet birth control is not...

This video is terrific...

The most awkward moment I've seen in a long time...

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Old 09-18-2008, 11:33 AM   #63
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:19 PM   #64
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If that picture is true then I may change my stance on illegals and get them out of here. I can cook up a pretty solid burrito and other Mexican dishes are about the only things I can cook myself. If someone would have to step in and sell all the burritos that could be quite lucrative.
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:43 PM   #65
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Personally, I have no issue with immigration as long as they are entering the country legally. Heck, the country was founded on migrants from other countries. I do have an issue with illegal immigrants and the notion that they are entitled to certain rights when they are in this country illegally to begin with.

The Latino population in this part of North Carolina is exploding right now due in large part to the ever growing construction industry that provides a ton of manual day labor jobs. It bothers me when one of my own state legislators introduces a bill to provide illegal immigrants with free tuition to local community colleges. There is just something fundamentally wrong with educating someone for free who is not even a citizen of this country and we cannot see fit to educate our own children properly.

Another thing that bothers me at times is when I see someone lose their life in a car accident and an illegal immigrant was at fault. We have several of those a year in this area. And, of course they are usually driving around without a valid driver's licenses or car insurance.

As I said I have no issue with immigration. If someone wants to come to this country to try and better themselves then more power to them. I would just prefer they do it legally, follow our laws, and pay taxes.
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I agree, doublee. The vast majority of Hispanics in my area are employed (paying taxes) and their kids are in our schools, being taught in English. Most of the parents speak English pretty well, too. Most have families in Mexico or where ever they come from that they send money to regularly.
I applaud their efforts to "better" themselves here.
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Old 09-19-2008, 08:11 AM   #67
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Q. What was John McCain's phone number when he was growing up?

A. KEating 5-1989!
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Speaking of that, why hasn't there been more made of comparing this current situation with the Savings and Loans situation of the 80s? Two things I think should happen based on these...

One, more regulation of banking and all this. We went away from that and within 30 years we have two of these situations that we're calling "crisis". Second more financial assistance to help low/moderate income families own homes. We deregulate the banks, and people get the idea that they can take advantage of people. We stop helping people in home-buying and they're more likely to fall prey to something too good to be true.

If I'm missing something with the economics of this and the causes of these two are completely unrelated or rooted in something other than the deregulation of banking/loans and Reagan's insistence that low income folks don't have federal assistance in buying a home, let me know I'm off base.
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I have heard for the longest from the Limbaughs of the world that certain candidates are socialist, and many of these idiots rally thinking that we must fight the "socialists" and win our country back.

Truth is we have been a socialist society for some time now. These recent bailouts prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Socialism for the rich and free market for everyone else.

The taxpayer should not be on the hook for the debts of these companies simply because the taxpayer was not in the loop when the profits were divided up.

Our nation is in sad shape when we let millions lose their homes with no government help because "they made irresponsible finanical decisions" yet the government hurries to the aid of the companies who made the same irresponsible financial decisions.
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But Obama's people are clearly asleep at the switch on this: They should be hammering relentlessly at McCain's Keating Five involvement, holding it up as proof that putting John McCain in charge of getting us out of the present mess is like putting Jack Kevorkian in charge of a suicide-prevention center.

And back to the joke in my last post:

Imagine an Obama ad that features an old-fashioned telephone (just like the one I happen to have in my apartment!) with the number "KEating 5-1989" displayed thereon; the phone then starts ringing, during which time some newspaper headlines about the S&L scandal and McCain's complicity therein flash on the screen. Then you hear the voice-over: "Sorry, wrong number" (in fact, the phone I've got is of the exact same design as the one Barbara Stanwyck talked on throughout the 1948 film of that name).

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I have heard for the longest from the Limbaughs of the world that certain candidates are socialist, and many of these idiots rally thinking that we must fight the "socialists" and win our country back.

Truth is we have been a socialist society for some time now. These recent bailouts prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Socialism for the rich and free market for everyone else.

The taxpayer should not be on the hook for the debts of these companies simply because the taxpayer was not in the loop when the profits were divided up.

Our nation is in sad shape when we let millions lose their homes with no government help because "they made irresponsible finanical decisions" yet the government hurries to the aid of the companies who made the same irresponsible financial decisions.


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Now McCain wants to "delay" the debates...

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Not only that he is "suspending campaigning" to return to Washington to work on fine tuning the bailout plan. The cynic in me wants to say this is purely an attempt at grandstanding by McCain.
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Not only that he is "suspending campaigning" to return to Washington to work on fine tuning the bailout plan. The cynic in me wants to say this is purely an attempt at grandstanding by McCain.
I don't think you have to be a cynic to see through this ploy by McCain.
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I'll go a step further on the grandstanding thing, and say that McCain would love to flip the debate schedule. Let the debate on economy/domestic policy go first when we're all going to focus on the bailout and the financial sector of the economy. McCain can talk there with some answers, he sounds similar to Obama on it and talks a bit stronger. Plus, there has been some democrat praise for some of the things done in the bailouts. That will work for McCain, get the talk to be on something they would generally work together on, McCain can take a lead there, rather than talking about jobs in middle america and the economy as it effects the large majority of Americans.

Then, the latter debate on McCain's strength, which would have gone now, in the thick of the financial stuff and had the possibility of it being overlooked.
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