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Old 01-12-2004, 10:21 AM   #1
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Default Indianapolis @ New England

Manning and company are so hot right now. I think NE is ripe for a loss and if anybody can topple them, i think it's the Colts. 8-1 on the road this year, including yesterday.

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Old 01-12-2004, 10:29 AM   #2
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Colts:35
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Yep, there on fire.
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:41 PM   #3
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Pats D will not be able to handle Manning running the Colts O at the line of scrimmage. I see the Colts running the score up.
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Old 01-12-2004, 03:33 PM   #4
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All of you are buying into the Maniacal Manning Mirage.

You would be silly to put money on this game with the Mirage in mind.

It's going to be fun watching the Colts bandwagon tipping over in the middle of the third quarter, when, with the Colts down 21, everyone who picked the Colts starts reversing themselves, muttering... "Defense always wins. Defense always wins. How could I have been such a complete dolt? Defense ALWAYS wins."

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Old 01-12-2004, 04:21 PM   #5
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no all u guys are wrong, pats will win

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Old 01-12-2004, 04:30 PM   #6
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I'll take the mirage.

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Old 01-12-2004, 05:40 PM   #7
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The Pats will win, but I will be sooooooo happy to see them lose. The Patriot D is awesome. If Indy can run its offense and score points, they can win. Indy coaches should practice with 12 or 14 players on defense against Peyton. That should account for all the confusion NE wants to cause him. The Pats have already broken my heart by knocking McNair and co. out. Give 'em hell Colts.
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Indy coaches should practice with 12 or 14 players on defense against Peyton. That should account for all the confusion NE wants to cause him.
That's actually a cool idea. I like it. Don't tell Tony.

As for the Colts keys to success:
Pick on Eugene (called Geno by Rodney Harrison) Wilson, rookie S. McNair was able to isolate him and take advantage a lot Saturday night. Actually, Wilson had been shown as the weak link for the first real time against the Colts several weeks back. Adjustments were made after that but McNair really buggered him good and may have re-exposed him just in time to be a problem.

I'm counting on a sterner D this week. The temps will be back to the 20s by gametime Sunday, and I think that the zero-degree temps got to a few guys, Wilson being one of them. (Dan "Steel Hands" Graham being another).

Here in Pats Land, there's a stat they're leaning on, at least right now, as something pretty hopeful: Manning v Pats in Indy: passer rating of 101.6. Manning v Pats in Foxboro: passer rating of 61.

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Old 01-12-2004, 07:28 PM   #9
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I really liked the moves New England made in the offseason, enough to make me consider them a Superbowl pick, and ever since that win in Miami, I've been riding the Philly/New England Superbowl train and will continue to do so.

Indy has a shot, and this is definitely going to be a great game if the previous playoff games have been any indication, but I just think the setting of this game will be too much for Peyton and Co. to deal with. Sure, they almost beat this team a few weeks ago in the comfort of their dome, but were also dominated for a good majority of that game as well. Let's also not confuse the Denver and KC defenses as even comparable to New England's. It's great to light up weakened defenses, but to do it in chilly weather in a place where no opposing team would care to play in the middle of January, it will just be too much to overcome. However, if any team in the AFC has a chance of pulling off a win in Foxboro, it's the Colts and their gaudy road record. Even so, I still think New England is on a path of destiny to Houston.

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Hey, Indianapolis, please make sure your punter is warmed up. You'll be needing him.

24 points will win this game for the Patriots.
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Dave,

That 61 passer rating at Foxboro means about as much as Manning never winning a playoff game. Now, he's won two in Joe Montana type fashion, including one with a very near THIRD perfect passer rating of the year.

8 touchdowns vs 0 interceptions

Averaging almost 40 points per game.

Over 370 passing per game.

The Pats might very well win this game. I doubt it will result in anybody considering what Manning is doing a mirage.

So, yeah....I guess I'm sucked in by the "mirage"
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21 points and the Colts win. They just need to do what they have always done and stop listening to all the hype about the Pats D.

Tony Dungy is a defensive specialist too. He knows how to coach. He made a mistake against the Pats earlier in the season. A majority of the Pats victories have come off of other teams mistakes. They are a very opportunistic team.

This will be a good game. Experience or lack thereof may hurt the Colts. They should be ready. I just hope they play mistake-free football. If not, Pats cruise to Houston.
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Colts 21, Pats 20

The Colts are a force that can't be stopped right now. You usually tend to take the team with the stronger defense, but I can't pick against the Colts right now.
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I agree that Dungy knows how to coach, but he is prone to those occasional lapses... like kicking away to Bethel Johnson at the end of the first half... personally, I think he should have pulled Peyton off the goal line after the first down failure, and discussed the situation. 20-20 vision.

He's a defensive specialist with a pretty weak defense, when you stop to consider it. To be sure, the Colts D is leaps and bounds better than before he got there, but, still... pretty weak.

As for the Colts only needing 21 points to win... I doubt it. They'll need something more along the lines of what happened yesterday in KC to win...

Couple of things:
1. Yes, P Manning has been hot these last two games. But, let's not lose sight, shall we, of the fact that this is the exact same team that squeaked by marginal Houston (on the road) in order to win the division, and got humiliated by Denver the week before on their own field.
2. Denver game was so much about payback for the Colts that really, combined with the fact that Shanny forgot to coach his team or to practice going into the game -- because they'd had it so easy just two weeks prior-- it's darn near discountable. Not completely, of course. But, in a game wherein emotion and focus can put a lesser team over the top, let's not forget exactly where the hearts and minds of each were during that game.
3. KC is the biggest fraud of a football team to walk the planet since the Oklahoma Sooners. Of course Indy didn't have to punt. What a pathetic excuse for a defense. If Robinson keeps his job until noon Wednesday, they've completely lost their minds in KC.
4. There is no "hype" about the Pats D. There are stats. As in 14 points being the most allowed at Gillette in over three months. As in the Pats have pitched THREE shutouts at Gillette this season. As in Brady has yet to throw an INT in nearing 300 attempts at Gillette this season. It's not hype. It's the way the Pats play the game.

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Old 01-12-2004, 11:07 PM   #15
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I think this is the Superbowl, right here... I'm not making predictions: just gonna enjoy this game 'cuz it's gonna be a dandy
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