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Old 03-27-2007, 08:16 PM   #1
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It's spring again and time to disrespect Tim Duncan in the MVP race. Why is the media all over Dirk and Nash when Duncan is right there? Here's the story...

Phoenix is 52-17
San Antonio is 49-20

The Spurs will most likely catch Phoenix cuz they have a few more home games down the stretch plus they only play 3 teams with a winning record. Phoenix has 7 games left against teams with a winning record.

Duncan's stats...

20.0 PPG
10.8 RPG
3.3 APG
54% FG
65% FT
2.3 BPG

Nash's stats...

19.0 PPG
3.5 RPG
11.6 APG
53%
89%
0.8 SPG

It's basically EQUAL when you flip the rebounds and assists for a PF and PG.

What am I missing here? I don't even want people to GIVE it to him...all I'm asking is why isn't he even mentioned?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:18 PM   #2
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It's spring again and time to disrespect Tim Duncan in the MVP race. Why is the media all over Dirk and Nash when Duncan is right there? Here's the story...

Phoenix is 52-17
San Antonio is 49-20

The Spurs will most likely catch Phoenix cuz they have a few more home games down the stretch plus they only play 3 teams with a winning record. Phoenix has 7 games left against teams with a winning record.

Duncan's stats...

20.0 PPG
10.8 RPG
3.3 APG
54% FG
65% FT
2.3 BPG

Nash's stats...

19.0 PPG
3.5 RPG
11.6 APG
53%
89%
0.8 SPG

It's basically EQUAL when you flip the rebounds and assists for a PF and PG.

What am I missing here? I don't even want people to GIVE it to him...all I'm asking is why isn't he even mentioned?
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:16 PM   #3
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I like Dirk, Nash, then Duncan, Kobe, and LeBron, but it's a two-way race, IMO. Nash makes everyone around him better, I guess that's his biggest argument. Duncan's team is good and he puts up good numbers, but he's not doing anything he hasn't done before. Gotta go above and beyond, no?
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:48 AM   #4
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It is really Dirk's to lose right now isn't it?
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I like Dirk, Nash, then Duncan, Kobe, and LeBron, but it's a two-way race, IMO. Nash makes everyone around him better, I guess that's his biggest argument. Duncan's team is good and he puts up good numbers, but he's not doing anything he hasn't done before. Gotta go above and beyond, no?
I think Duncan makes his teammates better moreso than Nash makes his teammates better. I think Tony Parker is an average point guard that gets a lot of his scoring because as a big man Duncan really knows how to create space for a PG to operate to where he can take the lane, drive in and hit a medium range jumper. Duncan opens up a lot of that by knowing where to be and not clogging anything up. Manu Ginobili gets a lot of shots because of Duncan, as well.

I just don't see how Nash always gets credited for making his teammates better when he was not this good before he got to Phoenix.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:21 AM   #6
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I agree with Doug here. On another team, Parker puts up pedestrian numbers, while on the Spurs, he looks pretty good.
The Spurs have basically not had a center since David Robinson retired, so Duncan has to do a lot of work under the basket. He takes all that pounding and still puts up all-star numbers, on a team that is likely going to be either the first or 2nd seed in the West.
Both Nash and Duncan are good passers, but Duncan's ability gives everyone much better shots, as doug said.
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At best the Spurs will be #2 in the West. Seeing as they are 9 games behind Dallas with 11 to go, realistically speaking, they have no chance at being the top seed in the West.
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I have to go with Kobe.
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:25 PM   #9
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Kobe really shot up the charts there a week or so ago, but given that the Lakers have dropped 4 of 5 and are only 6-11 over their last 17 with losses to Minnesota, Philly, Milwaukee, and Memphis I am not sure how Kobe is the MVP. He certainly does not seem to be elevating his team down the stretch run here. I said earlier in the year that Kobe was going to need 50-55 wins to get serious consideration and it looks as though the Lakers are going to fall short of that mark by quite a bit.
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3 rings, 3 finals MVP's and since that is all he cares about and moreso all the Spurs care about he gets no promotion from his organization. On the other hand anytime you interview Cuban he is pluggin Dirk for MVP. Same with the Phoenix front office. I think that Duncan is always the MVP, as was Shaq in the early 2000's and Jordan in the 90's regardless of who got the trophy.
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I got to go with Dirk Nowitski or Steve Nash. Without Nowitski Dallas would maybe have won 40 games this year.
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I gotta admit, I never even considered Duncan, and NO ONE mentions him on ESPN. He does really make a pretty good case, though I don't think he deserves it over Dirk. I don't like Duncan and his "me?" face (after a foul is called on him he religiously sticks his arms out and holds his mouth wide open as if he is so shocked the call was on him), but he is a great player who doesn't get his due.

Dirk. Hands down.
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Sorry I can't make up my mind. Either Kobe or Dirk.:lol:
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I don't like Duncan and his "me?" face (after a foul is called on him he religiously sticks his arms out and holds his mouth wide open as if he is so shocked the call was on him)
And it seems Tim Duncan is a favorite of David Stern, despite his "me?" face that the NBA is looking to crack-down on this season.

Duncan was called for a technical foul on Sunday for arguing about an offensive foul call, and then received a second technical foul call for laughing on the bench about a call that went against the Spurs.

Duncan claimed NBA official Joey Crawford has a "personal vendetta against me," although Crawford said Duncan referred to him with an expletive.

The end result: A long-tenured NBA referee who has officiated 266 career playoff games and 38 NBA Finals games has been suspended for the rest of the season.
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I know three pointers aren';t Duncan specialty or job, but he only has one this season doesn't he?
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