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Old 08-09-2003, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default Most Underrated Stat?

ESPN.com had an "all-underrated" week on Page2.... check out this article:

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Underrated statistic: The run

Forget home runs, ERA, saves or OPS. At the end of the game, there is only one statistic that matters in baseball. The run. If you score more of them than your opponent, you win. If you don't, you lose. So why does the run get so little respect? Why is it considered less important than the RBI? Why do box scores give the season totals for home runs, RBIs, double, triples, stolen bases, caught stealing, errors, wins, loss, saves, batting average and ERA but not runs? Why is the triple crown based on the league leader in home runs, batting average and RBIs instead of average, home runs and runs? Why do we all know the record for RBIs in a season (Hack Wilson's 191) yet don't have a clue who holds the record for runs scored (Babe Ruth, 177)?

I wish I knew the answer.
Does ANYONE have an answer??? :uhoh:




more underrated everything @ http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/030804.html
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Old 08-10-2003, 12:58 AM   #2
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It's a tough question to answer ... maybe the RBI is more talked about because it involves teammates most of the time. If you hit an RBI single, not only did you get on-base, but you drove another player home, so you did two things rather than one (score a run).
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RBI's are all about the action. The guy drives them in most of the time with a swing of the bat, the runner scores without that.

When I first read this thread, I thought runs myself. With the recent upswing in sabermetrics, OPS and OBP have become known. Runs are known in today's game, but they aren't the focal point. Heck, the offensive statistics every Sunday in the paper are ordered by average still....
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Most runs scored in a season is 192, held by Hall of Famer Billy Hamilton.
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the most underrate stat is on base percentage..
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Most runs scored in a season is 192, held by Hall of Famer Billy Hamilton.
Well if you are right, ESPN doesnt' even have a clue what the record is!!! Yet, scoring runs is the most important part of the game!!!! Definitely the most underrated
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you cant score runs without getting on base. On base percentage is the most underrated stat.
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points are all that matters in basketball. goals are important in hockey. touchdowns are big in football. but runs aren't important in baseball. it doesn't really make sense to me. runs are definitely the most underrated stat.
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oba is the most under rated. ERA is most over rated.
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you cant score runs without getting on base......
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Well, you can't score goals in hockey without assists.... so why isn't there an Assists Trophy that every player strives for, instead of the Rocket Richard Trophy most every player would rather have for scoring the most goals??? Why should it be different for baseball?
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Most underrated stat? Catcher's caught stealing %. No one pays much attention to it that isn't in the game. The best teams usually have a strong catcher who throws base-stealers out.
Seriously, I thing runs produced is the most important offensive statistic. A singles hitter that scores a lot of runs and drives a few more in is much more important to my team than a guy that hits a lot of solo homers with a .225 batting average.
Its the runs that are scored by a team that allow the team to win games and the guy that hits .300, scores 125 runs, hits 10 Hrs, and drives in 90 runs is more important than the guy that hits .225, scores 60 runs, hits 25 Hrs and drives in 70.
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