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Old 04-21-2005, 09:29 PM   #1
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One of my favorite things about sports, the draft, it's back. This draft has no clear-cut number one. But it's the deepest draft talent wise I've ever seen. Here I'll make analysis, projections, and comments.

I start at the running back position where you have 3 top 5 backs, but Benson could slide past. Ronnie Brown, Cadilac, and Benson all very valuable. I like Benson as the best out of those 3. Than, you have some backs that no one really is talking about but were big college players- J.J. Arrington, Marion Barber, Anthony Davis, Kay Jay Harris, and Darren Sproles(who just seemed to disappear in college. more also that I didn't mention. So, there is some gambling to be played on backs.

Wide Reciever is IMO the position with the most star potential. Braylon Edwards and Mike Williams are what I think the biggest playmakers in the draft. Than theres Troy Williamson, the fastest WR in the draft, a good teen pick. Roddy... I want to say White is big and looks like a great playmaker. I know he played for UAB and make some spectacular grabs. Mark Clayton of Oklahoma is another first rounder who is magical after the catch. After those, not much at Wide Reciever, Terence Murphy of Texas A&M and Reggie Brown of Georgia solid.

Cornerback has 3 tremendous backs in Carlos Rodgers, Antrelle Rolle, and Pac Man Jones. Rodgers is talked about being taken around the 20 pick and that would be a steal for any team. Antrelle is almost a lock to land in Tennessee unless one of the 3 top backs slide to them( which than again, is very possible.) Once again, after that, not very deep.

The QB position is stange this year. I think of Aaron Rodgers and Alex Smith as after the top 5 of best players, but they will go first because there qbs. I'm not quite sold though. I think Jason Campell can be better than both of them with his size. Charlie Frye who dominated camps is also a steal in the second round. Plus Andre Walter could be a good NFL QB. I like the QB position after the first 2 rounds. After those 5 Dan Orolsky looks like the next best thing. than thereís guys that people forgot about- Stephan Lefores, Kyle Orton(who at one time was a #1 pick potential, does he still have it in him) David Green. Than thereís guys I don't know what to think about, I just want to see drafted- Darian Durant, Timmy Chang, Gino Gulidugi, and Penn State's Zack Mills. Very interesting.

The Linebacker position has Derrick Johnson and thats really all I've got to say. Darryl Blackstock and Channing Crowder also solid.

DE/DT has a ton of players going in the first round. Erasmus James, Shawn Merriman, Demarcus Ware, David Pollack, Marucus Spears, Dan Cody, and Matt Roth could all go in the first round. The question is, what order? The Cowboys will probably take the first, but will it be James or Merriaman. Spears, Cody, and Ware should be teen picks. Pollock some where in the 20s. And if Cody is to be taken, it will be very late in the first round. And thatís just End. At tackle, Travis Johnson is a monster and is my top DT. Theirs Shawn Cody but his stock has fallen hard. Luis Catsleo is good but injuries hurt him. The guy I look is the dude from Iowa. Babinaux.

Ofensive Lineman has some good players. It all starts at Alex Barron, but Jamal Brown and Khalif Barnes arn't far behind.

Here are my rankings of each positon:
QB:
1. Aaron Rodgers- Cal
2. Alex Smith-Utah
3. Jason Campbell-Auburn
4. Charlie Frye-Akron
5. Andrew Walter-Arizona State
6. Stefan Lefores- Louisville
7. David Green- Georgia
8. Kyle Orton- Purdue
9. Dan Orvolsky- Uconn
10. Derrick Anderoson- Oregon State
11. Gino Guidulgi- Cincinnati
12. Sonny Cumbie- Texas Tech
13. Josh Haldi- Southern Illinois
14. Darian Durant- North Carolina
15. Bryan Randall- Virginia Tech
Very interesting

RB:
1. Cedric Benson- Texas
2. Cadilac Williams- Auburn
3. Ronnie Brown- Auburn
4. J.J. Arrington- Cal
5. Vernand Morency- Oklahoma State
6. Marion Barber- Minnesota
7. Ciatrick Fason- Florida
8. Anthony Davis- Wisconsin
9. Ryan Moats- Louisiana Tech
10. Brandon Jacobs- Southern Illinois (real big boy)
11. Kay Jay Harris- West Virginia
12. Darren Sproles- Kansas State
13. Eric Shelton- Louisville
14 Alvin Pearman- Virginia
15. T.A. Mclendon- NC State

WR
Braylon Edwards- Michigan
2. Mike Williams- USC
3. Roddy White- UAB
4. Troy Williamson- South Carolina
5. Mark Clayton- Oklahoma
6. Terrance Murphy- Texas A&M
7. Reggie Brown- Georgia
8. Vincent Jackson- Northern Colorado
9. Courtny Roby- Indiana
10. Roydell Williams- Tulane

D-Line- Very talented, very deep
1. Erasmus James- Wisconsin
2. Shawn Merriman- Maryland
3. Dan Cody- Oklahoma
4. Demarcus Ware- Troy
5. Travis Johnson- Florida State
6. David Pollock- Georgia
7. Marcus Spears- LSU
8. Matt Roth- Iowa
9. Shaun Cody- USC
10. Jonathan Babinaux- Iowa
11. Chris Canty- Virginia
12. Luis Castello- Northwestern
13. Antajj Hawthorne- Wisconsin
14. Justin Tuck- Notre Dame
15. Mike Patterson- USC

LB
1. Derrick Johnson- Texas
2. Channing Chrowder- Florida
3. Darryl Blackstock- Virginia
4. Odell Thurman- Georgia
5. Barret Rudd- Nebraska
6. Kevin Burnett- Tennessee

Secondary- Pretty much dominated by corners this year.
1. Adam Jones- West Virginia
2. Carlos Rodgers- Auburn
3. Antrelle Rolle- Miami
4. Thomas Davis- Georgia
5.Marlin Jackson- Michigan
6. Brodny Poole- Oklahoma
7. Justin Miller- Clemson
8. Fabian Washington- Nebraska

Offensive Line: Full of great tackles, but Guard and Center is abysmal.
1. Alex Barron- Florida State
2. Jammal Brown- Oklahoma
3. Khalif Barnes- Washington
4. Marcus Johnson- Mississsippi
5. Elton Brown- Virginia
6. Dan Buenning- Wisconsin
7. Jason Brown- North Carolina

Well that was fun. Now here is my 2005 Mock Draft:

1. San Francisco 49ers- Aaron Rodgers Qb Cal
2. Miami Dolphins- Alex Smith Qb Utah
3. Cleveland Browns- Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
4. Chicago Bears- Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Carnell Williams RB Auburn
6. Tennessee Titians: Antrelle Rolle CB Miami
7. Minnesota Vikings- Mike Williams WR USC
8. Arizona Cardinals- Cedric Benson RB Texas
9. Washington Redskins- Adam Jones CB WV
10. Detroit Lions- Derrick Johnson LB Texas
11. Dallas- Shawn Merriaman DE Maryland
12. San Diego Chargers- Troy Williamson WR South Carolina
13. Houston Texans- Alex Barron OT Florida State
14. Carolina Panthers- Jammal Brown OT Oklahoma
15. Kansas City Chiefs- Demarcus Ware DE Troy
16. New Orleans Saints- Carlos Rodgers CB Auburn
17. Cincinnati Bengals- Thomas Davis S Georgia Tech
18. Minnesota Vikings- David Pollack DE Georgia
19. St. Louis Rams- Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
20. Dallas Cowboys- Roddy White WR UAB
21. Jacksonville Jaguars- Marlin Jackson CB Michigan
22. Baltimore Ravens- Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
23. Seattle Seahawks- Travis Johnson DT Florida State
24. Green Bay Packers- Marcus Spears- DE LSU
25. Washington Redskins- Jason Campbell QB Auburn
26. New York Jets- Heath Miller TE Virginia
27. Atlanta Falcons- Khalif Barnes OT Washington
28. San Deigo Chargers- Brondny Poole S Oklahoma
29.Inianapolis Colts- Dan Cody DT USC
30. Pittsburgh Steelers- Khalif Barnes OT Washington
31. Philadelphia Eagles- Matt Roth DT Iowa
32. New England Patriots- Channing Chrowder LB Florida

close, but left out of first round- Shaun Cody, Fabian Washington, Marcus Johnson

Well thatís it, this post took me 2 days, canít wait until the draft! Enjoy!
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:00 PM   #2
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Just my two cents:

-Sounds as though the 49ers have settled on taking Smith first unless they get a good offer for the pick
-Bears have Benson as the top back and will take him
-Saban has no real interest in Rodgers and is looking to trade out and gain more picks. If the 'Phins stay at two they will take Brown or Edwards unless Smith is available.
-'Skins will take Williamson if he is available at nine.
-Jets traded their pick to Oakland so they won't be taking Heath Miller at 26.
-Chiefs will likely take Rogers if he is available at 15 unless they pull off the rumored trade for Surtain. They need secondary help more than pass rushing help at this stage.
-Sproles, Davis, and Arrington are downgraded due to their lack of size.
-Kay Jay Harris is downgraded due to injury concerns same as T. A. McClendon.
-Shelton is rated way too low most 'experts' seem to have him rated as a late second early third round pick.
-Where is Matt Jones? He seems to be the hot mover this week and most have him going in the second round.
-Darian Durant will probably get drafted but not as a QB. Someone will take him with the idea of converting him to
a RB or a WR.
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With all those small and injured backs, thats why I have them low on the rankings. RBs are deep this year. I saw I messed up with the Oakland/ Jets Trade, sorry. Matt Jones could be taken as one of those multi players but I think the Steelers could us an offensive lineman more. Shelton is slow, and thats why hes low. No way take Skins take Williamson, thier going CB
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With all those small and injured backs, thats why I have them low on the rankings. RBs are deep this year. I saw I messed up with the Oakland/ Jets Trade, sorry. Matt Jones could be taken as one of those multi players but I think the Steelers could us an offensive lineman more. Shelton is slow, and thats why hes low. No way take Skins take Williamson, thier going CB
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With all those small and injured backs, thats why I have them low on the rankings. RBs are deep this year. I saw I messed up with the Oakland/ Jets Trade, sorry. Matt Jones could be taken as one of those multi players but I think the Steelers could us an offensive lineman more. Shelton is slow, and thats why hes low. No way take Skins take Williamson, thier going CB

I know it looks like the Niners will take Smith. Which reshapes my whole thing really. i think Aaron Rodgers may slide to Washignton, especaially if PAC man and Antrelle are taken, but I've heard they may even take Carlos Rodgers with that pick.

Notes for myself: Intersting that ESPN had Minnesota taking Williamson unstead of Mike Williams. Picks 13 through 19 could be crazy, with all of those d lineman so close in skill and talent.
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Uh, Shelton clocked in the 4.55 range in workouts, which is just as fast as your man Benson, and at 246 pounds that is not slow. The guy is a Jerome Bettis type of back. He clocked out fast than Fason, Morency, and Jacobs and is bigger than Fason and Morency. He may not have blazing breakaway speed, but his by no means bringing up the rear in this year's group of backs and a lot of the backs who run sub 4.5's won't be anything more than 'change-of-pace' backs in the NFL.

'Skins may go WR if they can get their hands on Williamson or Edwards. A lot of the rumors circulating out of D. C. are centering around the Redskins moving up to try and grab one of those two.
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Shelton #13 among running backs? If that's accurate it's awesome news for the Eagles, for whom he is an absolutely perfect fit. Also watch if they select a wide receiver with one (or more) of the five picks they have on the first day; if they do, it could be a sign that Jeff & Joe are going to play hardball with T.O. & The Shark.

And not a chance would the Eagles pick Matt Roth. He has "Mike Mamula Redux" written all over him!

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I'm not prediction about who teams are going to draft.

These are two guarantees for the draft:

1) The Pittsburgh Steelers will have a good draft

2) Mel Kiper will use the term "upside' about 10,000 times.
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I think the Eagles were planning on taking a wideout in this draft even before the whole T. O. started spouting off about a new contract. Fact is Owens is 31 will be 32 at the end of next year and if the Eagles happen to win a Super Bowl with Owens in the next two seasons he will probably retire. He has made no bones about wanting to get out of football before his body falls apart on him. They need to think about finding and grooming his replacement within the next year or so. Plus, they really need some more quality depth at the position. Greg Lewis seems ready to ascend to the number two slot opposite T. O. and Pinkston and Mitchell just are not cutting it and Reid loves to run those three receiver sets.

With their first five picks, if they don't trade any away to move up, I look for the Eagles to take a receiver, a back, add some depth to the o-line and d-line, and possibly a TE if they see one they like to guard against Chad Lewis not making it back for another season.
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24. Green Bay Packers- Marcus Spears- DE LSU
I would be thrilled, absolutely thrilled if Spears was still on the board for the Packers at #24. He would make an excellent compliment to KBG and really solidify the defensive line. Also, don't forget that the Packers have Donnell Washington, a steal in the third round last season. He was on IR all of last season but has tremendous "upside" and should contribute. I wouldn't mind getting Thomas Davis if he for some reason fell to #24 either. Also, if Aaron Rodgers fell as far as #24 it would be hard, if not impossible, to pass him up. However, with that being incredibly unrealistic I'm looking for the Packers to take Charlie Frye or Andrew Walter in the second round or Dan Orlovsky, Kyle Orton or Adrian McPherson in the third or fourth round.
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Those DE's are so close in skill that they could go in any order, so it is very possible the Packers could get Spears, but they could also end up with Pollock, James, or even Ware.

Thomas Davis will end up in either Kansas City, New Orleans or Cinncy, each of those teams also want D-line. Kansas City seems to really want Davis despite me having K-City taking Ware. Also, Cinncy will take Erasmus James if he is still around, hes the number one defender on thier board. But... like I said, with all those Great D- lineers on the board, James could be the first one taken by the Cowboys.

*** I messed up on my mock: Dan Cody is from Oklahoma.

I truley believe still that the niners will take Rodgers, but if Smith is taken, I don't think Rodgers will slide. Why does no one think Cleveland would look at him? Thats where I would see him going, than Braylon would go to Chicago. The Packers could possibly go with Jason Campell, snatching him right out of Washingtons hands.

Look for St. Louis to trade up to get Jammal Brown, who I think Carolina will take if Willimason is gone. Who ever gets Khalif Barnes is getting a steal. I'm very interested to see who Jacksonville picks, I believe it will be a corner, but will it be Fabian Washington, Marlin Jackson, or Justin Miller? I'm aslo very interested to see where Travis Johnson goes could be anywhere from 14 to 32.
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Cowboys will take Merriman, Ware, or Johnson if he is still available with the 11th pick, and they need to draft someone in the secondary as well...but im not sure
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Let Gibbs and the Redskins have Jason Campbell, I would rather have Walter or Frye or Orton in the second or third round. Defensive End is a glaring and immediate need and should be addressed ASAP. While getting Favre's replacement is high on the priority list, I just don't see any quarterback on the board at that point that would be worth passing up a talented end with a plethora of other solid choices. I would go out on a limb and say that if Andrew Walter didn't have problems with his shoulder, he would be the first overall pick tomorrow. He is a complete QB with a great arm, accuarcy and size. Orton and Frye could both easily fit into the Packers' system as well. If Green Bay can get one of the top DE's (Spears, James, Pollock, etc.), Walter or Frye or Orton and an offensive guard (Bass, Brown, etc.) with the three picks in the first two rounds I will be ecstatic. All of those picks would fill glaring needs and allow the team to draft for depth and a linebacker with the remaining selections.
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The reason why nobody thinks Rodgers will go to Miami or Cleveland is due to the widespread belief that his value was artifically inflated by the 49ers to leverage a better deal with Alex Smith. The consensus on ESPN last night seemed to be that Rodgers and Derrick Johnson are the two most overrated guys in the draft this year.

If the Cowboys go DE at 11 and are truly moving to a 3-4 then they will go with Ware or Merriman as they are quicker off the corner and they will play that rush OLB spot in the 3-4 alignment. James' stock droped a bit when he only turned in a 40 time in the upper 4.7's.

Williamson will not be there when the Panthers pick. He seems to be a lock for the top ten and the Panthers have bigger needs than WR. They will have Steve Smith back and Keary Colbert will start opposite him and Proehl is coming back for another year. The Panthers will grab Brown or Barron or trade down into the 20s and should be able to grab Barnes. If the Panthers go skill position on offense it should be at RB if one of the big three slip far enough where they could trade up and get one of them without giving up too much.

I doubt Braylon Edwards falls to four if Miami moves out of two it will be to someone who wants Edwards, otherwise Miami will probably take Edwards.

I have read that the Packers are interested in trying to get Charlie Frye to be Favre's understudy.
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This is hilarious to read after the draft. Looks like Doublee was especially in-tune, so props to you!
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